Your favourite Zeuhl albums?
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Topic: Your favourite Zeuhl albums?
Posted By: David_D
Subject: Your favourite Zeuhl albums?
Date Posted: April 22 2022 at 02:54
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My own Zeuhl collection is very modest so far: Magma (F) - 2:1001º Centigrades (1971) Magma - Üdü Wüdü (1976) Magma - “Attahk” (1978) Eskaton (F) - 4 Visions (1979, 1981) Bondage Fruit (J) - II (1996) Xing Sa (F) - Creation De L’univers (2010) Universal Totem Orchestra (I) - Mathematical Mother (2016) But I'm sure some of you other guys have already made it much bigger! ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 22 2022 at 03:18
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13 Magma Hhai
/ Live Fra 1975 Live,
Zeuhl 13 Setna Guerison Fra 2013 Zeuhl 12 Eskaton 4 Visions Fra 1980 Zeuhl 12 Magma Magma AKA Kobaia Fra 1970 Zeuhl 12 Scherzoo 03 Fra 2015 Fusion, Zeuhl 12 Setna Cycle I Fra 2007 Zeuhl 11 Eskaton Fiction Fra 1983 Zeuhl 11 VAK - Aedividea Fra 2015 11 Magma 1001 Centigrades Fra 1971 Zeuhl 11 Magma Kohntarkosz Fra 1974 Zeuhl 10 Eskaton Ardeur Fra 1980 Zeuhl I'll complete it with Non-French albums later (and french - like Abus Dangereux later) Archaia - s/t Dun - Eros Eider Stellare - s/t Vortex - Cycle de Thantaos Abus Dangereux - 4è Mouvement Zao - Z=7L Vak - Budo Potemkine - Triton Xing Sa - Creation de l'Univers Happy Family - Toscco Guapo - Five Suns UNIVERSAL TOTEM ORCHESTRA - Magus RAHMAN : Same For some, UZ, AZ and Present have Zeuhl passages
------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 22 2022 at 03:59
fine ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Sean Trane wrote:Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: April 22 2022 at 04:52
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1. MAGMA Mëkanïk Dëstruktïw Kömmandöh 2. ESKATON 4 Visions 3. LAURENT THIBAULT Mais on ne peut pas rêver tout le temps 4. MAGMA Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré 5. JANNICK TOP Infernal Machina 6. GA'AN Ga'an 7. BONDAGE FRUIT V - Skin 8. SETNA Guérison 9. KOENJI HYAKKEI Nivraym 10. BONDAGE FRUIT I 11. DAI KAHT II 12. BONDAGE FRUIT II 13. CAMEMBERT Negative Toe 14. VAK Budo 15. UNIVERSAL TOTEM ORCHESTRA The Magus ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: April 22 2022 at 05:24
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MAGMA LIVE 1975 MAGMA DE FUTURA MAGMA UDU WUDU WEIDORJE UNIVERSAL TOTEM ORCHESTRA : MAGUS RAHMAN : Same |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: April 22 2022 at 05:54
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Magma - Trilogie Theusz Hamtaahk Guapo - 5 Suns Shub-Niggurath - Les Morts Vont Vite Eskaton - 4 Visions Weidorje - s/t Koenjihyakkei - Viva Koenji! Archaia - s/t Dun - Eros Bondage Fruit - s/t Setna - Guerison Zao - Z=7L Vak - Budo Unit Wail - Retort Rhun - Fanfare Du Chaos Serge Bringolf - Strave Corima - Quetzalcoatl Potemkine - Triton Jean-Paul Prat - Masal Yochk'o Seffer - Ghilgoul Xing Sa - Creation de l'Univers Happy Family - Toscco ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 22 2022 at 06:04
That reminded me, I forgot this one from my collection.  ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: April 22 2022 at 06:30
| I forgot DUN and Archaia |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: April 22 2022 at 07:08
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My honest list of ten favorites goes like this: Magma - Kobaïa Magma - 1001° Centigrades Magma - Ûdü Wüdü Magma - Mëkanïk Dëstruktïẁ Kömmandöh Magma Kohntarkosz Dun - Eros Eskaton - 4 Visions Archaia - s/tEider Stellare - s/t Shub Niggurath - the self titled 1985-release ...the top five: but is it really Zeuhl though? Guapo - Five Suns Vortex - Cycle de Thantaos Rahmann - St Zao - Shekina Laurent Thibault - Mais on ne peut pas rêver tout le temps There's
tons more Zeuhl and related I really enjoy/enjoyed, but these are the ones I actually still play
every once in a while (plus more or less the rest of Magma discography
and a few more albums by Zao and Guapo) Also love Rhesus O and Kultivator
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: April 22 2022 at 07:13
I should have certainly included Guapo - 5 Suns, in fact I'm going to edit it in right now! ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: April 22 2022 at 08:11
-But regarding Rhesus O: Upon relistening, as I type, I think their only album is very much the sound of Zeuhl anno 1971. Magma was still very much a jazzensemble (although uniquely themselves) on their two first albums, and this should please anyone into Kobaïa and 1001° Centigrades. Considering how overlooked it is, I'll add a: Warmly reccomended! Kultivator is basically swedish canterbury/progfolk with the occational zeuhl bass and keyboard twist - which is awesome.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: April 22 2022 at 08:36
That one is awesome! ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: April 22 2022 at 13:09
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Inspired by this thread I'm relistening to my Abus Dangereux - Le Quatrieme Mouvement. What an absolute gem! I think I'm gonna have to give my whole zeuhl-collection a spin. The sort of unplayed part of it. Zeuhl-fusion is what I crave for these days. |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 22 2022 at 15:34
good to hear ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: April 22 2022 at 18:03
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strange that no-one mentioned "Infernal Machina" by Jannnick Top yet. besides the albums of Magma and Offering the best Zeuhl album there is -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: April 22 2022 at 19:47
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My fav its Dûn - Eros My top 10 probably Dûn - Eros Yochk´o Seffer - Ima Guapo - Five Suns Anaîd - Belladonna Eider Stellaire - Eider Stellare Zao - Shekina Alain Eckert Quartet - Alain Eckert Quartet Kultivator - Barndomens Stigar Weidorje - Weidorje Rialzu - Rialzu And yep, No Magma and Eskaton |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: April 22 2022 at 20:53
BrufordFreak has them at number 5. And it is a great album. Man this is going to be hard. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 23 2022 at 02:40
Just give it good time. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: wiz_d_kidd
Date Posted: April 23 2022 at 07:51
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While I can't say I'm a fan of Zeuhl, I do enjoy Vak "Budo" very much! Thanks to virtual Prog Day for bringing them to my attention! |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 23 2022 at 09:02
you're welcome ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 25 2022 at 04:37
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Might be good to know: PA's Zeuhl definition Zeuhl is an adjective in Kobaïan, the language written by Christian Vander, drummer and founder of the French band Magma.
Pronunciation: zEU(h)l, while the EU are like a French E with a slight U, and the (h) is a semi-silent letter which is an integrated part of the EU, totaling in a "syllable and a half". The word means celestial, although many times it is misunderstood as meaning "celestial music", since the members of Magma describe the genre of their music as Zeuhl. Zeuhl Wortz, though, means Music of the universal might. The genre is a mixture of musical genres like Neoclassicism, Romanticism, Modernism and Fusion. Common elements: oppressive or discipline-conveying feel, marching themes, throbbing bass, an ethereal piano or Rhodes piano, and brass instruments. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 25 2022 at 12:32
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I wonder if Paul has any favourites of "Music of the universal might" - he has almost had a suggestion for Avant-Prog.  ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 28 2022 at 05:13
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Any other Zeuhl favourites outthere?  ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: April 28 2022 at 05:22
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Nothing much to add that hasn’t already been mentioned. Obviously a large chunk of the Magma discography would make my list, as well as Weidorje’s and Laurent Thibault’s albums. A fine recent Zeuhl album worth hearing is “Budo” by Vak. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 28 2022 at 13:58
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Might be interesting to know about Magma's albums for those who don't know it already: "Magma's first album, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magma_%28Magma_album%29" rel="nofollow - Magma (later reissued as Kobaïa), told a story of refugees fleeing a future Earth and settling on a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planets_in_science_fiction" rel="nofollow - fictional planet called Kobaïa. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magma_%28band%29#cite_note-PSF-20" rel="nofollow - [20] The lyrics were all in Kobaïan (except the title track, sung mostly in English), a language Vander constructed for the album, some sung by soloists and others by "massive quasi-operatic choruses". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magma_%28band%29#cite_note-Wire-p2-3" rel="nofollow - [3] Over the next three decades Magma made a further thirteen albums that continued the mythology of Kobaïa, all sung in Kobaïan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magma_%28band%29#cite_note-TinyMixTapes-18" rel="nofollow - [18] " (from Wikipedia's article about Magma, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magma_(band)#Koba%C3%AFan ) ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: April 29 2022 at 01:51
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Magma: Köhntarkösz, K.A., Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré, Zëss (Le Jour du Néant) Weidorje: s/t Einder Stellaire - Eider Stellaire I KoenjiHyakkei - Dhorimviskha ------------- 
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Posted By: DangHeck
Date Posted: April 29 2022 at 09:53
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I'm definitely looking to take some notes on bands and albums I'm not yet familiar. I do really enjoy Zeuhl, but compared to other Prog idioms, I'm still pretty green on the lot of it. I love Mathematical Mother by Universal Totem Orchestra (Rituale Alieno is up there for me too); probably my favorite from Magma is Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh, but I also love the debut and, if I remember correctly, Kohntarkosz; I love Koenji Hyakkei probably the most for the bands that I know and it's tough... between Nivraym, Angherr Shisspa and Dhorimviskha (seriously, tough); my favorite Zao album is probably Shekina; and my favorite frrom Ruins is maybe(...?) Vrresto? Refusal Fossil was pretty good, too. Hard to remember where I'm at with Ruins, for instance.
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Posted By: Screwgun
Date Posted: July 06 2022 at 18:58
| I have to be in a certain mood to listen to Zeuhl. When I do it's always Weidorje. |
Posted By: DreamTechPlus
Date Posted: July 21 2022 at 03:52
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Does Merci count? That's the only one I listen to pretty regularly. Love, DreamTechPlus.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 21 2022 at 10:22
------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 21 2022 at 16:09
If you mean the 1985 Magma album, I'd say yes. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 21 2022 at 16:20
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My absolute favourite Zeuhl album is "Theusz Hamtaahk Trilogie", the 2001 live album of Magma. "K. A" and "Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré" are my favourite studio albums of Magma. The repeated chanting of "Hallelujah" on "K.A" is out of this world. And "Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré" sounds like a Zeuhl Black Mass. I also love "Infernal Machina" by Jannick Top; it sounds like a battle between the forces of Good and Evil, with Evil winning.
-------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 21 2022 at 16:27
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[QUOTE=David_D] Might be good to know: PA's Zeuhl definition Zeuhl is an adjective in Kobaïan, the language written by Christian Vander, drummer and founder of the French band Magma. Pronunciation: zEU(h)l, while the EU are like a French E with a slight U, and the (h) is a semi-silent letter which is an integrated part of the EU, totaling in a "syllable and a half". The word means celestial, although many times it is misunderstood as meaning "celestial music", since the members of Magma describe the genre of their music as Zeuhl. Zeuhl Wortz, though, means Music of the universal might. The genre is a mixture of musical genres like Neoclassicism, Romanticism, Modernism and Fusion. Common elements: oppressive or discipline-conveying feel, marching themes, throbbing bass, an ethereal piano or Rhodes piano, and brass instruments. The French/German TV-channel Arte broadcasted a feature on Magma in June 2021 and described Zeuhl as a mixture of jazz, rock, classical, modern avant-garde, R'n'B, metal and world music. ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 12 2023 at 07:42
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A new album has found its happy way to my rather modest Zeuhl collection, and it's Universal Totem Orchestra (I) - Mathematical Mother (2016) ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: GrafHaarschnitt
Date Posted: April 24 2023 at 16:31
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Definitely not Eros by Dün, because no zeuhl. But I am gonna go with a personal favourite of mine: kultivator and masal by jean Paul prat. Zao also hast great albums. And the Second gaan is huge.. Sadly hard to get. |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: April 24 2023 at 20:00
This in spades. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: April 26 2023 at 04:35
But actually, it's now only one album less than my Electronic Prog collection, a sub-genre I think of as being quite fond of. ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |