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Topic: First Utterance vs. Stormwatch
Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Subject: First Utterance vs. Stormwatch
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 09:17
Which one would you take with you on a desert island, should you be allowed to only choose between these two records?
I know I will certainly have 'First Utterance'. Big smile

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 09:26
First Utterance for sure. When I saw this poll my brain registered FU's competition as Roy Harper's Stormcock (the stormy cock surely would beat the stormy watch for me).

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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 09:37
First Utterance though I would have voted Stormcock if it was the option.

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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 09:40
First Utterance is a good album, but I love that period of Jethro Tull.


Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 10:11
I don't like Stormwatch that much, but I'd pick almost anything over First Utterance.

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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 10:13
I voted for Stormwatch, for it is free of that primitive, lo-fi early 70s mixing/production First Utterance suffers from.


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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 10:56
The Tulls

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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 11:02
Both are great albums for different reasons. First Utterance is more experimental and unique - a success in its own extremities. On a desert island however, I would get more out of Stormwatch, and hence my vote. More uplifting and inspirational.

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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 11:16
Stormwatch. I think it's one of Tull's more underrated albums and it has aged very well.
First Utterance is a very distinctive and adventurous album, but I think that it is rather overrated.

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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 12:10
Stormwatch

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Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 12:20
Stormwatch. Not my favourite Tull, but First Utterance is too difficult listening for me. 


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 12:49

the pure beauty of Comus - 'First Utterance' (1971)








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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 12:59
Stormwatch for sure, even though I like First Utterance very much.


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 13:14
I prefer Comus but voted for Jethro Tull, as listening to First Utterance whilst all alone on a desert island would no doubt give me nightmares. Stern Smile


Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 13:24
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I prefer Comus but voted for Jethro Tull, as listening to First Utterance whilst all alone on a desert island would no doubt give me nightmares. Stern Smile
Well, that's quite certain, Psych Paul. LOL


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 13:39
I like Stormwatch (probably in my top five Tull albums) but I have never heard the Comus album. The album cover is beyond disturbing and I've only just realised that what I thought were shoulders could be the hind haunches of an animal given birth to a whatever it is. Yep great. 


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 13:45
First Utterance is an exhilarating far out fun-ride and pure progfolk perfection - while Stormwatch is "up there" with Too Old to Rock 'n' Roll: Too Young to Die!, War Child and the rest of Tull's forgettable three star albums.


Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 13:51
First Utterance

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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 14:20



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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 14:22
Comus, easy. And I like Stormwatch. 

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Posted By: zwordser
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 14:36
First Utterance for sure, its classic!

I'm sort of a half-fan of Jethro Tull, and never been able to get into stormwatch much.




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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 14:38
Comus, Comus, Comus!

(Did I mention Comus?)


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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: March 08 2022 at 20:20
Stormwatch. Utterance is a once every decade listen....and then I remember why it took ten years.

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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: March 09 2022 at 03:19
Jethro Tull - 'Stormwatch'


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: March 09 2022 at 09:59
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I prefer Comus but voted for Jethro Tull, as listening to First Utterance whilst all alone on a desert island would no doubt give me nightmares. Stern Smile

I didn't know that you're so serious about others' OPs, Paul. Big smile


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Posted By: omri
Date Posted: April 04 2022 at 09:07
First utterance is quite challenging but after getting used to it it's briliant. I think this album is the best debut ever (followed by "Phalus Dei" and ITCOTCK) and better than any Tull's album including TAAB, Songs from the wood and Aqualung that I truely love. So this is my vote - FU

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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: April 04 2022 at 13:19
both good not great albums IMO, but slight edge to Comus for its weirdness alone


Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: April 04 2022 at 16:16
Comus.


Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: April 04 2022 at 17:44
Originally posted by A Crimson Mellotron A Crimson Mellotron wrote:

Which one would you take with you on a desert island, should you be allowed to only choose between these two records?
Neither for a desert island. Rather not have music if these are my only choices.


Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: April 05 2022 at 01:44
I’ll take my stormwatch remix book set with me for sure. Great double album. I can’t remember liking comus really

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Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: April 05 2022 at 02:15


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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: April 05 2022 at 06:11
Another vote for First Utterance. Whilst I kinda dig Stormwatch, it’s not at all as interesting as the albums that came before it…and it’s certainly no match for the cult classic from Comus imho.

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Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: April 05 2022 at 06:18
This ranking is close as hell, but I have to go with Stormwatch. One of the most underrated JT albums at least as far as their 70s albums are concerned Smile

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Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: April 05 2022 at 23:54
Just played Utterance. Not very fun stuff lol

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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 06 2022 at 03:19
Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

Just played Utterance. Not very fun stuff lol


When it comes to the fun, it rather depends on the who.

"Comes the sunlight, summer day
Comus wakes he starts to play, play, play, play
He starts to play, play, play, play" (Song to Comus).

You might not be having fun, but methinks that Comus would like to have some fun with you.

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I actually do find the album quite fun, while also disturbing, quite horrific in part and haunting (The Herald for instance). I find various horror films and novels fun too. I prefer Song to Comus: The Complete Collection which includes First Utterance and the often derided To Keep From Crying, plus some excellent bonus tracks, over First Utterance alone. I like the contrasts, and I have recommended music off To Keep From Crying to some who dislike First Utterance, the recommendation was ignored every time, but that didn't Keep me From Trying.

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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: April 12 2022 at 13:31
Surely First Utterance.

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Posted By: Gordy
Date Posted: April 13 2022 at 02:37
First Utterance for sure (especially the version with bonus tracks from the accompanying single, which for me are even better than the album proper!)


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: April 13 2022 at 14:31
If I had to listen to just one it would be Tull.....that Comus lp is revered  by many but for me only half of the songs are enjoyable..the others are annoying to me.

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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: April 13 2022 at 14:51
Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

Just played Utterance. Not very fun stuff lol
Maybe you're not very fun lol.


Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: April 13 2022 at 16:32
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

Just played Utterance. Not very fun stuff lol
Maybe you're not very fun lol.


Nah I prefer fun prog. I’m fun

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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.


Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: April 13 2022 at 16:35


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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.


Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: July 08 2022 at 18:13
Jethro Tull - 'Stormwatch' (1979)     

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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: July 16 2022 at 05:41
Never really got into Comus. 

Easy vote for Stormwatch.


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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: November 30 2024 at 11:47
First Utterance, though I really like Stormwatch too!




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Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: November 30 2024 at 12:07
Stormwatch Smile


Posted By: Gentle and Giant
Date Posted: November 30 2024 at 12:55
First Utterance

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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 30 2024 at 14:11
In my opinion, First Utterance is a masterpiece, Stormwatch is a good album.

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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: November 30 2024 at 14:24
Comus over any JTull LP!



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