Does Pete Towsend deserve to die?
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Topic: Does Pete Towsend deserve to die?
Posted By: JD
Subject: Does Pete Towsend deserve to die?
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 06:05
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You tell me. https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/music/news/pete-townshend-i-dont-deserve-to-be-alive-today/ar-AATVbom?li=AAggFp5" rel="nofollow - https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/music/news/pete-townshend-i-dont-deserve-to-be-alive-today/ar-AATVbom?li=AAggFp5 ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 06:13
| Al I can say is “To each, his own.” If that’s how he fells then, What can be said or done? |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 06:13
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No more than David Crosby. With two of the Who's original members deceased, it's a blessing that he's still around.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 06:33
| Yep, because of his child porn arrest and him continuing to tour as The Who without Keith and John. |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 06:44
Seems a bit harsh for the second one.
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Grumpyprogfan wrote:Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 07:23
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He seems a lightweight compared to Keith Richards ;-) ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 08:38
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Just for clarity and without wishing to condone his actions in 2003, Pete was arrested for using his
credit card to access a website offering child pornography, although no
images were downloaded. He was cautioned by the police and placed on the Sex Offenders
Register for five years after saying he was trying to prove big banks
were complicit in the child-porn industry. He remains active in charity work that deals with the consequences of the sexual abuse of children. Irrespective of any past misdemeanors and errors of judgement, he will always be one of the greatest British songwriters of all time whose work belongs in the same conversation as Lennon/McCartney, Ray Davies, Elvis Costello, Jagger/Richards, Paddy McAloon, Lloyd Cole, Strummer/Jones, Elton John, David Bowie, Queen, Jeff Lynne, Syd Barrett, Noel Gallagher et al. Hope Mr Townshend gets old before he dies. ------------- 
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 09:22
...word... I don't think anyone deserves to die, but I respect his revelations based on his past actions. He is a brilliant song writer, easily one of the greatest. -------------   
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 09:51
| I think all people deserve to be treated with dignity and I wouldn't wish death on anyone. |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 10:42
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 11:15
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No, he doesn’t. He has been a hugely influential artist, one of my favourites. Mind you, having read more than a few interviews with him over the years, what he says in these interviews should always be taken with a huge pinch of salt. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 11:23
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I don't know |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: February 16 2022 at 13:30
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Pete Townshend is a friggin' musician. It's his work of art that counts. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 17 2022 at 01:17
But somehow Townsend should stop his self-loathing during interviews - as if it was some way of showing humility.  It's weird, because he comes off both somewhat arrogant, but also very auto-criticizing. 
I guess that's what he means most: he abused substances (inck booze) so much that he should've died much earlier, like a lot of "martyrs" the rock culture enhances too much. But both Richards and Daevid (well the latter was clean for a couple of decades) show that you can live old and still engage in hazy pastures. He (Pete) himself wrote "Hope I die before I get old" (and had Roger sing it) and I guess it's disturbing to live with that: they survived but the other two didn't.   I take it he also feels remorse (or regrets) towards Loon and The Ox for not having done more to help them. .
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 17 2022 at 01:31
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doesn't everyone? ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 17 2022 at 02:45
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The concept of death and the concept of "deserving" are alien to each other. |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: February 17 2022 at 04:04
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Hes one of the greatest coneceptual artists in rock music, one of the founding fathers of the rock opera, and a very big ibfluence on the musical landscape. Hes the Stephen Sondheim of rock opera -------------  
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: February 17 2022 at 05:18
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I'm not really the greatest Who fan, but he wrote Substitute and for that he deserves to live forever. ------------- Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to. http://bandcamp.com/jpillbox" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp Profile |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: February 17 2022 at 07:04
It's certainly a great song and like much of Townshend's best work, autobiographical in nature and, unusually for the habitual machismo realm of rawk, sung in the vulnerable first person ('I') about feelings of inadequacy, a search for a sense of belonging and dealing with persecution (Pete was mercilessly bullied as a schoolboy because of his appearance)
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 18 2022 at 03:30
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The piece suggests that 'he doesn't deserve to be alive' NOT that 'he deserves to die' . I think that subtle change of wording for the thread title is quite emotive tbh. Partly he says that because of the booze and drugs and hard partying as much as the personality thing. He think he is suggesting that better him (dying) than someone else with more moral fibre. I think that is quite common a feeling but he also admits that he has been a more useful member of society in the last 20 years than before. The raw honesty is good but then also common as you get close to checking out. At least he has contributed to art and that puts him way above certain members of the royal family who few would miss if they weren't around! |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: February 18 2022 at 05:51
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A - The title was a sarcastic play on words as you eluded to in your opening sentence. B - So my next topic should be "Does 'former' prince Andrew deserve to die?"
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: February 18 2022 at 11:44
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I love ya JD, but this is a weird thread. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: February 18 2022 at 12:08
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Yea, I was a little bored when I read the article and posting it like that just seemed to be the thing needed to break the boredom. ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 18 2022 at 12:55
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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: March 07 2022 at 14:09
| I wonder if Pete wrote A Quick One about his addiction. I know Pete wrote it about a guy who like to diddle a little, but maybe Pete's fantasy's factored into A Quick One? |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: March 13 2022 at 12:02
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no. he doesn't ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 13 2022 at 12:19
What addiction?
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 13 2022 at 12:46
God knows, but I think she might be referring to Townsend’s related claims of abuse he suffered as a child. It certainly has naff all to do with any drug addiction. That came years after for him. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: March 22 2022 at 21:18
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Yes. I believe he does. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: March 23 2022 at 07:47
Sex addiction. I'm not a guy, so I cannot relate. But, I've seen oodles of men with sex addictions. All kinds. Some veer toward child porn. That said, I'd give my eye teeth to watch Pete play live from a front row seat in 1971. Amazing!
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 23 2022 at 07:54
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We all do. Who wants to live forever? I pitty the fool who seeks out immortality. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Zeph
Date Posted: March 23 2022 at 09:29
| I wouldn't mind living longer than a typical human being does. Preferably with a body that is fit enough to do what I want. I wouldn't run out of things to do or try anytime soon. |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: March 23 2022 at 15:35
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^Deep Thoughts by Jack Handey ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: RockHound
Date Posted: April 22 2022 at 15:19
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No. He's not a mass murderer or dictator (slightly redundant). We all will eventually, and that's why we need to enjoy all the great music we can!
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Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: December 24 2022 at 03:27
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As he's wanted to leave this band since 1965 then saying alive is his penance. Sorry Pete but there's only one way out and it not yet. Not by a long way. Oh no. |