CTTE's Wakeman or SIR's Banks
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Topic: CTTE's Wakeman or SIR's Banks
Posted By: Argentinfonico
Subject: CTTE's Wakeman or SIR's Banks
Date Posted: December 19 2021 at 21:51
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Be careful, this is not about your taste, but about which one you think is above the other in terms of interpretation, creativity, level, emotion and any other aspect you want to include in your criteria. I've been listening to both songs a lot these last few days to try to answer this but I can't come up with a solid response! ------------- -Will I see you tonight? -I never make plans that far ahead. Casablanca (1942) |
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Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: December 19 2021 at 22:42
These questions are invariably about taste. Numbers can be objective. The quality of music is not. For me it's Banks. That solo in during the Apocalypse in 9/8 section is probably my favorite keyboard solo of all time. ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Argentinfonico wrote:Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: December 19 2021 at 22:57
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As much as I worship Wakeman and Yes, I voted for Banks on this one. ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: December 19 2021 at 23:16
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Supper ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: December 19 2021 at 23:18
Right, so remove our taste buds and tell you which meal we preferred and the reason(s)?
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 00:35
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Banks, even here. ------------- 
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 01:35
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Banks, for the 9/8 section alone; solo and mellotron parts. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 02:39
| Would have thought Rick Wakeman would have won easily here. |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 03:52
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Banks, easily. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 05:14
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Banks on this one for his organ play but it's not always the case. In general I think both most excelled most on piano. For instance the piano part in Return of Giant Hogweed against that in South Side of The Sky would be cripplingly difficult to make a choice between!
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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 05:36
| Wakeman |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 06:01
| I cannnot decide. Both are fantastic at creating sound atmospheres, making the two songs marvelous. |
Posted By: Progfan1958
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 07:06
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I'll actually go with Keith Emerson on Karn Evil 9 ! ------------- Progfan1958 "Peace to you all" "La paix est avec vous" "Pax vobiscum" "Al salaam a'alaykum" "Vrede zij met u allen" "Shalom aleichem" |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 07:18
Given that our subjective taste is deemed spurious to the matter at hand, maybe the most appropriate response to date. This is a bit like a musical debate for the deaf. -------------
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Posted By: Argentinfonico
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 07:43
Hey, calm down. Of course I mean to put our favouritisms aside to vote impartially. Everyone has understood the slogan, I don't understand the need to belittle the post. ------------- -Will I see you tonight? -I never make plans that far ahead. Casablanca (1942) |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 07:50
| its tie for me and Banks is m fav keyboard player--but I think Banks best solo is Cinema show--so I voted Rick--besides his solos he adds a lot of little keyboard parts that are very good. |
Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 07:52
| Good old Rick, this time. |
Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 07:52
| Wakeman |
Posted By: Earl of Mar
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 10:48
| wakeman. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 11:04
| Let's see, a church organ, organ and synthesizer vs just an organ. Hmmmmmmmmmm. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 12:08
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The Caped Crusader. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 12:32
See, I just don't think it's possible to vote impartially about the quality of music. It's always going to be subjective. ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 13:26
Everyone is calm. I just think you are asking us to state that one piece of art is somehow objectively better than the other (which is is kinda ridiculous) -------------
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 14:09
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Banks' solo immediately came to mind upon reading the question, so I strongly considered voting for it. But once I got Wakeman's solo, I have not been able to get it out of my head for two days. That compels me to vote for Rick. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 15:06
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Banks ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Argentinfonico
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 16:13
You still don't understand. Of course impartial perception is subjective, I have never gone against that human thing. If I forbade you to be subjective when voting, I would have to expect a 100% to 0% result. Simply subjectivity is not synonymous with favouritism, and that's my point. There are some very basic songs that I like much better than some very advanced ones, for whatever reasons. If I had to vote for which is the better composition for me, I would put aside my bias. ------------- -Will I see you tonight? -I never make plans that far ahead. Casablanca (1942) |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 17:58
yeah Cinema show may well be his best. In the poll question, I think Wakeman's is better from the point of view of synchronicity with the other performers
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Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 20:31
Now I'm confused. Do you want us to vote on which option is technically more difficult, or more innovative, or some other measurable objective quality? Or are you indicating that the one we think is better is necessarily not the same as the one we like the best? Personally, if I like thing A better than thing B, it's because I think thing A is a better thing than thing B. It's all subjective for me. ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 20:34
I would argue Banks' is no less impressive for how he manages to pull off all of those 4/4 sounding lines over the 9/8 backing and move through all those different modes as well. ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 20 2021 at 21:40
| I would think Wakeman. The Church Organ alone should be enough to vote for him, and then here's the keyboard solo after it, and of course the keyboards at the itro. |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: December 21 2021 at 08:27
agree and Rick does a lot of interesting things on the song--including synth effects and the spacey middle section and his solo is one of his best---along with Roundabout and Revealing solos.
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Posted By: felonafan
Date Posted: December 21 2021 at 08:52
| voted for Rick |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: December 21 2021 at 10:33
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On balance I think the Caped Crusader. On Close to the Edge he and Yes really brought out the best in each other and his organ and synth playing is superb. As good as Tony Banks was on Supper's Ready (especially Apocalypse in 9/8) there was better to come - Firth of Fifth and Cinema Show to name but two. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: December 22 2021 at 02:22
Likewise - and CTTE is my favorite Yes/prog album. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |