21st Century Big Six - Debut after 1/1/2001
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Topic: 21st Century Big Six - Debut after 1/1/2001
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Subject: 21st Century Big Six - Debut after 1/1/2001
Date Posted: November 01 2021 at 08:30
Who are your big six prog bands from the 21st Century? Bands chosen must have at least three releases and their debut album must be released on or after January 1, 2001.
Thank You Scientist Riverside The Aristocrats Haken Antoine Fafard Sanguine Hum
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Posted By: AlanB
Date Posted: November 01 2021 at 08:47
Neal Morse has to be in there considering the quality and amount of his releases. I would include Transatlantic in the list too. Then add Dream Theater and Steven Wilson who aren't to my taste but are in the big league. Maybe The Flower Kings and Spock's Beard as the other two? Personally I would include Mostly Autumn but they have more of a niche following.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 01 2021 at 08:56
Probably not the kind of list you were expecting, but these are my big six 21st century favourites.
The Enid Steve Hackett IQ Mostly Autumn The Tangent Rick Wakeman
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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: November 01 2021 at 09:07
Presumably, to qualify, an artist's debut album must have been released in the 21st century?
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 01 2021 at 09:09
Big 6..? Ones that I like at any rate...
Wobbler IQ Big Big Train Motorpsycho Porcupine Tree/ Steven Wilson Sanguine HUm
------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 01 2021 at 09:09
I prophesy disaster wrote:
Presumably, to qualify, an artist's debut album must have been released in the 21st century?
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That rules out all but one of my six choices then.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: November 01 2021 at 09:20
I prophesy disaster wrote:
Presumably, to qualify, an artist's debut album must have been released in the 21st century?
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Exactly what I was going to ask.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 01 2021 at 09:33
I prophesy disaster wrote:
Presumably, to qualify, an artist's debut album must have been released in the 21st century? | That is correct. Debut album must be released on or after January 1, 2001. Band also must have three albums.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 01 2021 at 09:46
Riverside Caligula's Horse Leprous Haken Mono Frost
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: November 01 2021 at 10:01
(I don't know why people don't read the Original Posts....)
Debut release after 2000 At least (minimum of) 3 (three) albums released
Here are a few bands that seem to fit the OP's criteria: Bent Knee iamthemorning Steven Wilson The Mars Volta Wobbler Monobody Thieves' Kitchen Anna Von Hausswolff Unaka Prong Haken Midas Fall Ciccada The Psychedelic Ensemble Sanguine Hum Yugen Utopianisti The Moulettes Dungen The Amazing Leprous Brother Ape Battlestations Accordo Dei Contrari Kotebel Cosmic Ground Homunculus Res John Holden NoSound Riverside Needlepoint Sylvan Lifesigns Kayo Dot La Coscienza di Zeno The Samurai of Prog Mystery Sequentia Legenda Stellardrone Steve Hauschildt
My picks for "Big Six" would have to be: Riverside Kayo Dot Steven Wilson iamthemorning Bent Knee Wobbler
which I'm basing on the amount of news and excitement they generate when an upcoming release is given notice.
My personal favorite six would include: Bent Knee Unaka Prong iamthemorning The Amazing Homunculus Res Monobody (or Dungen)
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 01 2021 at 10:04
I'd probably go with:-
The Mars Volta Bent Knee Haken Mastodon Riverside Leprous
My personal list would be
Top 6 Bent Knee The Future Kings Of England Sleepytime Gorilla Museum Knifeworld North Sea Radio Orchestra Jack O' The Clock
Next 4
Schnellertollermeier Led Bib Yugen Poil
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 01 2021 at 10:05
^^ the OP asked for six bands.
I too wonder why people don't read the Original Posts
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Posted By: rik wilson
Date Posted: November 01 2021 at 13:48
My big six are: Yugen Led Bib Aristocrats KBB Alco Frisbass Herd of Instinct
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 01 2021 at 14:42
The Mars Volta (US) Riverside (PL) Flor de Loto (Peru) Lunatic Soul (PL) Vespero (Russia) Hidria Spacefolk (Fin)
Edit: I can say about those bands that they have at least 1 album I like.
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: November 01 2021 at 15:13
My big Six would be:
Sanguine Hum Needlepoint Humunculus Res Kayo Dot Airbag Gazpacho
solo artist
Steven Wilson
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 01 2021 at 15:22
^ Gazpacho, I forgot about them, they've become quite popular.
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Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: November 01 2021 at 16:08
My personal six:
Leprous (listening to them right now) Devin Townsend Project (can I get away with that?!) Cellar Darling (3rd album imminent, I think...) Frost* Lifesisgns Transatlantic
I wish I could include Sound Of Contact 😏
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Posted By: axeman
Date Posted: November 01 2021 at 19:57
Riverside Haken The Tea Club Wobbler Thank You Scientist Gosta Berling's Saga
(Shamblemath's and Bantam to Beamoth's not having the required 3)
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 01 2021 at 21:13
^Neither does Bubblemath. Wouldn't that be cool if they toured with Shamblemath? :)
Bantom To Behemoth is an album though and not a band. I believe you are thinking of Birds and Buildings who put out an album with that name.
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Posted By: Beautiful Scarlet
Date Posted: November 02 2021 at 00:14
Let’s see
Homunculus Res
Wyndham Earl
Regal Worm
Fireplace
Den Martens
Moogg
That’s six
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: November 02 2021 at 04:35
Interesting to see all those lists. I'm quite incapable to produce one... Apparently there's not really a Big Six, but a Big One: Riverside. They got the most mentions - most of the lists are very different from each other...
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 02 2021 at 04:37
Personal picks, not necessarily going for who's really "big" in some sense: Battles North Sea Radio Orchestra Sonar (William D. Drake, who's not a band)
iamthemorning From Monument to Masses Schnellertollermeier
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Posted By: AlanB
Date Posted: November 02 2021 at 05:45
I can't think of 6 within the parameters of the edited OP. So I'm just going to nominate The Neal Morse Band, they adopted that name in the 21st century although Neal was releasing albums before 2000. As The Neal Morse Band they have released 4 excellent albums.
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Posted By: wiz_d_kidd
Date Posted: November 02 2021 at 08:24
Wobbler The Psychedelic Ensemble Cosmic Ground Vespero SONAR Oresund Space Collective
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 02 2021 at 08:25
Wobbler - I forgot the most obvious one
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 02 2021 at 08:43
Currently the top four of the 21st century are... Riverside, Haken, Wobbler and Leprous.
Prog-metal is dominating. Not surprising, as prog has changed. What will prog sound like in 50 more years?
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 02 2021 at 14:54
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
Currently the top four of the 21st century are... Riverside, Haken, Wobbler and Leprous.
Prog-metal is dominating. Not surprising, as prog has changed. What will prog sound like in 50 more years? |
Now, you make me confused. Are we talking about our own personal preferences, or what generally can be considered as the most popular/"big" bands?
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 02 2021 at 14:58
David_D wrote:
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
Currently the top four of the 21st century are... Riverside, Haken, Wobbler and Leprous.
Prog-metal is dominating. Not surprising, as prog has changed. What will prog sound like in 50 more years? |
Now, you make me confused. Are we talking about our own personal preferences, or what generally can be considered as the most popular/"big" bands? | I am talking about the results of this thread only.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 02 2021 at 15:52
okay, I got it
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Posted By: projeKct
Date Posted: November 02 2021 at 18:58
At first, I thought this would be easy. Then I looked at my collection and so many bands/artists were available... and all very good: - Agents of Mercy
- Barock Project
- Bent Knee
- Brighteye Brison
- Emmett Elvin
- Estradasphere *
- Hasse Fröberg & Musical Companion
- Frost*
- Haken
- Jack O' the Clock
- Jordsjø
- Karcius
- Karmakanic
- Lalle Larsson
- Leprous
- Major Parkinson
- Malady
- Moon Safari
- Moulettes
- Paatos
- Seven Steps to the Green Door
- The Tangent
- Tirill
- Toxic Smile *
- Transatlantic *
- Tusmørke
- Anna Von Hausswolff
- Steven Wilson
- Wobbler
* first album released in 2000, does it count?
It's almost impossible for me to choose the 6 best elements.
But let's say Bent Knee, Emmett Elvin, Estradasphere, Haken, Jack O' the Clock, Karmakanic, Major Parkinson, The Tangent, Tirill, Wobbler as top 10.
Then at gunpoint I would say Bent Knee, Haken, Major Parkinson, The Tangent, Tirill, Wobbler for a top 6.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 03 2021 at 01:14
Haken Wobbler Moulettes Frost* Steven Wilson Animals As Leaders
are we going to have one those pedantic arguments about when the 21st Century began
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 03 2021 at 02:24
^No, but it surely did in 2000.
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Posted By: Zeph
Date Posted: November 03 2021 at 02:41
I don’t want to make an individual list since that would just be another topic with «Your top six in the 21st century». The point with the big six is that they were big and reached a wide audience. This means that some highly acclaimed bands on PA, but with a low number of ratings, isn’t included.
In an attempt to do the same, I used the PA list as a reference and came up with the following which are potential artists or bands for such a list. I looked for bands with one or multiple higher ranked albums with at least several hundred ratings
Steven Wilson (England) Riverside (Poland) Wobbler (Norway) The Mars Volta (USA) Haken (England) Between The Buried And Me (USA) Beardfish (Sweden) Gazpacho (Norway) Leprous (Norway)
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 03 2021 at 02:48
here are six more, the ones I forgot
Wobbler Gazpacho Beardfish Subsignal Animals As Leaders The Tangent
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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: November 03 2021 at 07:24
I'm ignoring the cut-off date because it's irrelevant to the concept.
Transatlantic Big Big Train Wobbler Opeth Haken Steven Wilson
The above artists seem to move the needle a bit more than most other Modern Prog bands. In truth, all six should be Prog Metal acts as they have bigger fan bases...Devin Townsend probably sells more product than Lifesigns or Jordsjo.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 03 2021 at 15:10
axeman wrote:
Gosta Berling's Saga | Listening right now to Sersophane. Like it!
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 03 2021 at 15:26
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
axeman wrote:
Gosta Berling's Saga | Listening right now to Sersophane. Like it! |
Gosta are superb.
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Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 03 2021 at 16:19
Not necessarily my favourites, but if there are any candidates:
Wobbler SW Big Big Train The Tangent
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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: November 03 2021 at 20:10
Y'all should respect the date set by the OP. It's kind of a middle finger to the person who asked the question, and BLATANTLY doing it is just rude. The OP said 1/1/2001. IQ, Opeth, etc., obviously don't count because they had earlier debuts.
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Posted By: rushaholic
Date Posted: November 04 2021 at 07:09
My 2001+ picks
Riverside Mastodon Wobbler Steven Wilson Kayo Dot Lunatic Soul
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 04 2021 at 07:30
Awesoreno wrote:
Y'all should respect the date set by the OP. It's kind of a middle finger to the person who asked the question, and BLATANTLY doing it is just rude. The OP said 1/1/2001. IQ, Opeth, etc., obviously don't count because they had earlier debuts. | Thanks for your comment. I have gotten used to forum folks not reading the OP. I have done it myself.
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: November 08 2021 at 17:39
Riverside Haken Wobbler This Winter Machine The Tangent Moon Safari (I'd like to include Mostly Autumn, but their debut was 1998. Same with Big Big Train, who debuted in 1994. IQ, Pendragon and Arena are all wonderful, but far too old.)
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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: November 08 2021 at 21:51
I'd go with: Steven Wilson Big Big Train The Tangent Transatlantic Karmakanic Moon Safari Beardfish
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 00:54
Steven Wilson, Neal Morse and Transatlantic shouldn't count in my view because they have all released music before or are made up entirely of musicians who have.
Frost* Moon Safari Beardfish Riverside Ciccada The Watch
Also considered:
Haken Lost World Hourglass Voyager Thieves' Kitchen Jordsjø Barock Project Tiger Moth Tales Antique Seeking Nuns / Sanguine Hum Kotebel Karfagen / Sunchild
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Posted By: AlanB
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 08:36
Awesoreno wrote:
Y'all should respect the date set by the OP. It's kind of a middle finger to the person who asked the question, and BLATANTLY doing it is just rude. The OP said 1/1/2001. IQ, Opeth, etc., obviously don't count because they had earlier debuts. |
Fair point, but this criticism can't apply to those posts that were made before the OP edited his post to include a cut off date.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 08:51
AlanB wrote:
Awesoreno wrote:
Y'all should respect the date set by the OP. It's kind of a middle finger to the person who asked the question, and BLATANTLY doing it is just rude. The OP said 1/1/2001. IQ, Opeth, etc., obviously don't count because they had earlier debuts. |
Fair point, but this criticism can't apply to those posts that were made before the OP edited his post to include a cut off date. | You are correct. My edited post explained the years I was asking for. However, even after editing... some still picked bands/artists that didn't met the criteria.
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 09:15
From a strictly PA, semi-empirical (eye testing without taking the time to count) perspective, using the years in question, 200 total rating and 4 star average, the answer seems to be...I don't think their really is a big 6. These are the closest that meet the criteria who started making albums after 2001.
Riverside Wobbler Haken Steven Wilson
As noted above, it's hard to consider Wilson as his work with PT started way before 2001. But technically he qualifies.
If you throw out the 2001 band genesis requirement it would be something like.
Big Big Train Riverside Wobbler Porcupine Tree Opeth Steven Wilson
From my personal perspective, I am not sure that anything that dominates my listening falls into a "big" anything category.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 09:34
^The term big was not to be taken literally and your choices were to be your own, not PA's. Thanks for your effort.
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Posted By: Deadwing
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 10:06
The Mars Volta Riverside Leprous Haken Wobbler Mastodon
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