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Topic: Interactive poll XXL-26 - the choir edition
Posted By: The Anders
Subject: Interactive poll XXL-26 - the choir edition
Date Posted: October 04 2021 at 17:51
Welcome to the next Interactive Poll. This time the theme is: Choir.

And what does that mean? Well: the song or piece you nominate must be either a choir piece, or the music must contain choir of some sorts. To make things easier, I define choir as the sound of three or more people singing together at the same time, so e.g. a pop or a rock song with vocal harmonies as a crucial part would also count. You can choose any genre you like. Prog artists are allowed, but please don't pick too well known artists.

The other rules are the usual ones: Nominate one song or piece, and once all the nominations are in, you should vote for three submissions other than your own. You can post more than one track, but please don't overdo it.

EDIT: You should have your nominations ready on Tuesday 12 October at latest, so the voting can open on Wednesday.

So let me start with my own nomination: "Wiigenlied" by the Danish composer Per Nørgård:





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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 04 2021 at 18:00
Joe Jackson - Is She Really Going Out with Him? (Acapella)



Man - Sospan Fach (Live)



John Zorn - IV. Queen Mab (from Madrigals Book II for six female voices)



And a personal favourite as a bonus (not for poll)

Keith Emerson - Rose Gets It




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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 04 2021 at 18:04
Awesome topic, a few came to mind immediately, but will have this as my nomination and maybe mention one or two later on. ;)

Ennio Morricone - Dies Irae (from Il Sorriso del Grande Tentatore)



Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: October 04 2021 at 19:12
Great topic.  I'll come up with something else tomorrow, but this one is the first thing that popped into my mind especially with the definition of a choir for this poll.  This is not a traditional choir, but it is a group of five jazz vocalists singing at the same time though different parts of the track.  Hopefully this fits the definition you gave, but since I was just listening to it before I read the topic, I thought I would throw it in the running.  

I absolutely love this kind of music.  

New York Voices - "Giant Steps"




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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: October 05 2021 at 03:05
I had some pieces that'd fit in here nicely already in these polls (Meredith Monk, Barbara Morgenstern). Let's see how much I have left. I think I had Wim Mertens once among my suggestions but he didn't eventually go into the poll. Some nice choir work in here. Let's see whether this is "Maximising the Audience".



Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: October 05 2021 at 03:07
Awesome stuff posted by JD; I was immediately thinking of that Joe Jackson song as well but didn't know the others.


Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: October 05 2021 at 03:30
Well, you have them, of course:

Mieskuoro Huutajat - Oulujoki:



(I'll be back...)




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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 05 2021 at 05:29
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Awesome stuff posted by JD; I was immediately thinking of that Joe Jackson song as well but didn't know the others.
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: October 05 2021 at 05:29
First track is from 1989 Grammy winning album Le Mystére Des Voix Bulgares.

Bulgarian State Television Female Choir - Pilentze Pee



This second track samples the first track.

VAST - Touched



Third track is from an artist I posted in Greg's A to Z music genres thread (W for world beat).

Zap Mama - Rafiki



Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 05 2021 at 05:52
Here's to you my three nominations:

1) Housemartins: He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother

You all know the beautiful song The Caravan of Love sung a cappella by the Housemartins, their great hit, but perhaps many of you don't know this small gem, always a cover, based on the same themes of human fraternity.
Taken from the collection Now That's What I Call Quite Good, which was one of my fave cd when I was a teenager.




2) A Filetta: A paghjella di l'impiccati 

Do you remember "A Filetta"? The Corsican polyphonic group I posted a song months ago? In this piece, perhaps a requiem, perhaps a protest song, they recall the massacre of Niolu, where Corsican patriots were hanged by the French who, in those years, conquered the island.


Here's to you the translation of the of the inscription on the tombstone (how similar to Italian, the Corsican dialect!):
"Stop as you pass, here at the sacred altar, where eleven patriots from Niolu were sentenced to death on 23 June 1774. The youngest was 17 years old. Each was mangled, tortured and hanged in the square of his village. Their only sin was to face the French oppressor and defend the freedom of the Corsican people, offended at their home. Remember this sacrifice."



3) Roberto De Simone: Libera Me Domine

But maybe the nomination I care about the most is this one, which I think none of you know about. A cultured music composer wrote in 1985 a requeim for Pier Paolo Pasolini, an Italian poet, writer, intellectual, and director who was killed 10 years earlier. I love the intellectual and director Pasolini. Greg surely knows some of his films, and maybe some of you too.
The image of the video is taken from the film The Gospel according to Matthew, and represents the Madonna, personified by Pasolini's mother.

In this requiem the composer used an academic choir and an amateur choir taken from the streets of Naples: in my opinion a fabulous mix of cultured music and Neapolitan folk music comes out. You like it?




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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 05 2021 at 05:58
Don't know much about choirs in music, I just might post something from classical music or maybe not LOL, but for now just a few songs from the first bands I thought of when reading the poll title - Phoenix and Therion. 

Phoenix made their first comeback in the early 90s with the ambitious SymPhoenix that had old songs re-worked with an orchestra and choirs (on a few songs) and a couple of new songs. Some of the re-worked songs are great, others were slaughtered LOL (predictable though IMO).





Now Therion is a symphonic metal band since the mid 90s. Two songs from them as well. 







 


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: October 05 2021 at 08:55
Haven't come up with anything right off the bat, but will see what comes to mind once I enjoy some coffee.  Thank you for yet another twist on these fun polls!  

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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: October 05 2021 at 09:51
Someone was bound to pick Mieskuoro Huutajat for this poll. I considered it myself, but I thought someone else would choose them. I love them.

Here is their take on "The Star Spangled Banner". Out of competition of course.




Posted By: SuperMetro
Date Posted: October 05 2021 at 09:57
L'Isola di Niente by PFM (if prog works)



Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: October 05 2021 at 10:45
Here are a few more that I want to add to my previous submission:

Ayreon is a project headed over by Arjan Lucassen, a multi-instrumentalist that has written a lot of concept/story albums that use various vocalists to act as different characters in his story.  One of my favorite albums from the project is "The Human Equation".  The track that I am posting uses several singers doing these character parts, but there are several parts in this track where many of them are singing together, so I think that qualifies for this poll.

Ayreon - "Day 2: Isolation"


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The next submission is from a project from Toronto called "Choir! Choir! Choir!"  I have always loved large ensembles of vocalists like this.  It always gives me chills to hear a group of people making music together, whether it is in choirs or orchestras.  It only goes to prove that music brings about unity among individuals.  For just a few minutes, people can come together, regardless of their backgrounds, and produce something beautiful and powerful.  This should give us all hope that we can work together bring unity among all of mankind when we have a singular purpose to create or re-create anything we want and in the process, bring peace and unity amongst ourselves.  

This is the project's tribute to David Bowie.  There is an introduction at the beginning, so if you want to skip past that and get right into the performance, skip up to 1:10 on the video.

Choir! Choir! Choir! - "Space Oddity"



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Finally, here is a choir piece from the amazing composer Krzysztof Penderecki (who sadly passed away in March of 2020).  

Krzysztof Penderecki - Agnus Dei (performed by Filharmonia Narodowa)




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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: October 05 2021 at 11:59
My second suggestion is a bit long (as are the band name and the title...), so sorry for that - there might not be a third because of that (unless...). This is from probably my preferred post-rock band; yes, they are on PA but I'm a bit surprised this album has "only" 49 ratings...

Silver Mt. Zion Memorial Orchestra & The Tra-la-la Band with Choir - So Some Lonesome Corners So Many Flowers Bloom:





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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: October 05 2021 at 12:04
This one was a bit harder for me, as Anders did specify 3 or more vocalists.  I wasn't sure on one of my potential choices if there were indeed three, so left that one out, although throughout it is more "choral," in effect than my slightly left of center choice.

First up are the wonderful Mediaeval Baebes, a song from their latest release, "Memorare." 

Next, to break up the feeling between my first and third choices, is Jefferson Airplane's version of "Wooden Ships."  This is the one that stretches the theme a bit, but all of the vocalists are in on it.  I have always found the harmonized chorus on this just exquisite between the vocalists in this band.  Always gives me chills when Grace Slick's voice first appears.  

Lastly, the women's ensemble, Kitka, here performing "Kirilesa," in a live setting.  


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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 05 2021 at 14:02
Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

[EDIT]
The next submission is from a project from Toronto called "Choir! Choir! Choir!"  [EDIT]

This is the project's tribute to David Bowie.  There is an introduction at the beginning, so if you want to skip past that and get right into the performance, skip up to 1:10 on the video.

Choir! Choir! Choir! - "Space Oddity"

VIDEO REMOVED FOR SPACE
(a space oddity indeed LOL)
I like these ones, it makes me wonder...if Sunday services sang popular music tunes instead of 'religious' stuff, might I attend more? I guess it would depend on who the featured artist was.
Hmmm, now I'm thinking, if it worked for L. Ron Hubbard...


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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: October 05 2021 at 14:30
George: Bulgarian TV Choir video doesn't play for me. Hope this is the same thing:



Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: October 05 2021 at 14:50
This one is probably out of competition... it was a major worldwide hit and chances are many people know it. Also it came under criticism because the original writer and singer of the song, an old lady called Afunakwa from the Solomon Islands, had not been credited nor asked for permission by Deep Forest. Whether this mix of disco rhythm and Solomon and African singing is OK to do you can judge yourself.

Anyway, I loved this to pieces when I heard it for the first time (for one season it went with the UEFA Champions League coverage in Germany, of all things) - I still do.



Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: October 05 2021 at 15:03

Hello guys, I'm back at last! Oh my, I almost missed the kick off! I will post my proposals first and the info will follow. Smile >> done.

YL Male Voice Choir: Pohjois-Karjala (Finland)

Founded in 1883 within the Helsinki University, the YL is Finland’s oldest Finnish language choir which became over the years one of the most prominent male choirs in the world.

Original Composition & Lyrics: Gösta Sundqvist, best known as the lead singer for the Finnish rock band Leevi and the Leavings (1978-2003).

The English translation for the lyrics is included in the subtitles. 


Tresor ft. The Soil: Silale (South Africa)

Africa has a long-standing choral music culture which goes back to the traditions of indigenous peoples. To this day choral music is a substantial part of popular music culture in Africa. Thus, it is not surprising that it found its way even to modern-day pop music. The Soil is an award-winning South African a cappella group from Johannesburg, here in collaboration with Congolese singer, songwriter and music producer, Tresor.

Meredith Monk & Vocal Ensemble: Songs of Ascension (United States)

Meredith Monk is a composer, singer, director/choreographer and creator of new opera, music theatre works, films and installations. She is a pioneer in what is now called "extended vocal technique" and "interdisciplinary performance.

Songs of Ascension is made up of 21 relatively short movements for ensembles of voices or instruments or combinations of both, in groupings as straightforward as a string quartet and as complex as the mix of 12 virtuoso vocal soloists, strings, bass clarinet, and percussion.






Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: October 05 2021 at 16:03
Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Here's to you my three nominations:

1) Housemartins: He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother
Video etc removed for space

The others are viewable by me, but again, this one I cannot "see."  Am hoping this is it?  




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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 05 2021 at 16:15
Try this one Nickie. I think it's the same one.




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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: October 05 2021 at 16:43
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Try this one Nickie. I think it's the same one.

video  removed for space 
Thank you!

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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: October 05 2021 at 17:40
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Originally posted by TCat TCat wrote:

[EDIT]
The next submission is from a project from Toronto called "Choir! Choir! Choir!"  [EDIT]

This is the project's tribute to David Bowie.  There is an introduction at the beginning, so if you want to skip past that and get right into the performance, skip up to 1:10 on the video.

Choir! Choir! Choir! - "Space Oddity"

VIDEO REMOVED FOR SPACE
(a space oddity indeed LOL)
I like these ones, it makes me wonder...if Sunday services sang popular music tunes instead of 'religious' stuff, might I attend more? I guess it would depend on who the featured artist was.
Hmmm, now I'm thinking, if it worked for L. Ron Hubbard...

Brothers and Sisters, let's turn to hymn #666 and sing together to the glorious harmonies of "Iron Man".  A-one-a-and-a-two-a-and-a.....


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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: October 05 2021 at 17:41
First listen impressions/thoughts up through about half of Page One:

Anders: Per Nørgård “Wiigenlied”   Male and female voices blending in an avant sort of piece, or could be early music, there are pieces that use unusual vocalisations, such as here, with shouting etc.  It is very percussive at times and moves from harsh to angelic and back again with ease.

JD:  Joe Jackson “Is She Really Going Out With Him? (Acapella):  Here is almost a doo-wop kind of beginning and treatment of this song, also with tinges of spiritual music.  Very catchy, with the clapping accompaniment.  Great pop song, done up in a different package.  Man “Sospan Fach”  This has more of a dancehall sort of feel to it, male voices and piano.  Sounds like a triumphant military sort of song, with some short intervals of speaking and it sounds like, agreement, from audience, perhaps.  John Zorn “IV. Queen Mab”  Here, a soft swelling of vocals commence, with some starts and stops.  Queen Mab was a Queen of the Faeries, so it fits perfectly with this theme, a bit otherworldly. Eerie and also perhaps a bit scary, as one of the Fae should be.   Keith Emerson “Rose Gets It”  Beginning notes sound like a theremin, which is kind of fun.  Very, very eerie, then it picks up into an orchestral part, which sounds like setting a scene of horror.  The piece ends very abruptly with sounds reminiscent of the shower scene in Psycho.

Greg:  Ennio Morricone “Dies Irae (from Il Sorriso del Grande Tentatore)”  A decidedly “religious,” feel to this from the start.  Church-type choir and, slowly, church bells/organ sounds come in, softly, in the background.  Swift, staccato punctuation begins, giving a sense of tension, perhaps of temptation or possession.  The voices become more exultant, or are they more frightened?  They sound sort of chant-like for a bit, like the part of Atom Heart Mother with the chanting.  It then becomes almost like two sides, scolding one another.  Perhaps a war of belief and conflicting desires, torn between good and evil.  The voices begin to fade, with some organ beneath them, then fade away entirely.

Mike:  New York Voices “Giant Steps” Jazz bass and drums, with some keys, at a rapid pace begin this pace.  One of the “bass,” sounds emerges as a voice, then joined with others, both male and female.  A male vocal comes to the fore, with scatting.  Piano comes to the fore, then on to a female scatting with some other vocals joining in.  It all comes to an end on an upbeat note.

Christian:  Wim Mertens “Maximizing the Audience”  Solo piano, then cello added.  I already quite like this, for it’s more spare tone.  A more strident sense comes in for just a moment, then becomes contemplative again.  The vocals are all female, richly sung.  Smaller bowed instruments enter now, and the piece moves into a beautiful melody with all of the instrumentation.  A feeling of the tragic to my ear.  So far this is my favourite piece of all, perhaps not unsurprisingly.  I love watching the musician’s joy in the performance.  The pace begins to gallop along a bit, I get the feeling something new is about to happen in it.  The women rejoin, still rich, this now reminds me of mountain traveling, the curving road beneath and the icy summits above.  The pianist add his vocal and soars and swirls around the chorus.  The song builds to a majestic climactic ending.  Just lovely!

Kees:  Mieskuoro Huutajat “Oulujoki”  A challenge to type!  Rushing water sounds, a very contrasting piece to the previous one.  This one has an emphatic feel of a march, and a bit of perhaps, anger to it.  One with a megaphone increases this sense of a warlike piece.  Harsh, modern war (not that all war isn’t harsh). 

George:  Bulgarian State Television Female Choir “Pilentze Pee”  I think I’m going to like this one, too.  Yep, from the first note.  Similar style to my Kitka entry.  I love the discordant harmonies of this sort of music.  It is stark, yet also ornate.  They reach some really ecstatic notes and sonic depths towards the end, before fadeout.  VAST “Touched”  Strummed guitar starts this, with a soft and gentle male vocal.  Interesting touch, to bring in a sample of the previous track to this.  It is quite effective in adding a sense of anguish to his tale, which you don’t hear in the original piece, without his described loss.  They stop with some Bulgarian style horns at the end.  Well done synthesis of two types of music here.  Zap Mama “Rafiki”  Subtle effects on the vocal and some soft percussive and piano sounds.  They come to a regular beat and a Afro-type chorus, along with some scratching.  The lead singer is very Eartha Kitt-ish to me, although, of course, in both a more modern and also more ancient way simultaneously.  A bit of a rap ensues, then they are joined by a male vocalist as well.  I enjoy all three of these.

Lorenzo:  Housemartins “He Ain’t Heavy, He’s My Brother”  Now I don’t know “The Caravan of Love,” but will go and check it out.  I do know The Hollies version of this song.  Looking forward to hearing how it is treated here.  A capella version of the beautiful song I know.  Soulfully done, simple yet effective. A Filetta “A paghjella di l'impiccati”  So much violence in the history of mankind.  Sad to see their names and ages on this plaque.  Begins with a plaintive vocal, solo.  This has what I think of as a “village,” sensibility.  The soloist is joined in his mourning with a solemn choir in a moving dirge.  The melody reminds me in part, of an Alan Stivell piece.   Roberto De Simone “Libera Me Domine” This in a symphonic setting, the soloist projects great emotionality, with the strings softly building behind her.  There is a great sense of history to this piece, as the handclaps and choir(s) join her, mixing the rustic with the grandeur.  The climactic portion gives way to a soft end.



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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 05 2021 at 18:28
Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

Welcome to the next Interactive Poll. This time the theme is: Choir.

And what does that mean? Well: the song or piece you nominate must be either a choir piece, or the music must contain choir of some sorts. To make things easier, I define choir as the sound of three or more people singing together at the same time, so e.g. a pop or a rock song with vocal harmonies as a crucial part would also count. You can choose any genre you like. Prog artists are allowed, but please don't pick too well known artists.

The other rules are the usual ones: Nominate one song or piece, and once all the nominations are in, you should vote for three submissions other than your own. You can post more than one track, but please don't overdo it.

So let me start with my own nomination: "Wiigenlied" by the Danish composer Per Nørgård:


The piece is an a cappella song where the words (I don't know if they are in Danish or if they are just onomatopoeic sounds) have a mainly percussive function. 

Basically, the piece is divided into two parts, the first (which ends after about a minute and a half) sees the choir create a rather fixed rhythmic carpet, inside which the lead singer indulges in a series of dissonant high notes that break the rules of the "bel canto", obtaining a paradoxical effect, which associates this piece with the theater of the absurd. 

You may like it but it can also be repulsive. 

In fact, the vocal passages of the soloist are at times clumsy and aimed at obtaining an irritating effect, even if up to a certain limit, without exceeding, just a touch and then stop, they do not manage to test the listener's resistance: they can irritate but not disgust. 

In the second part, the whole choir plays increasingly clumsy percussive sounds, both on high and low tones, sometimes producing the sound of a dog's growl. In this persistent indulging in the same sounds with different accents and tonalities I see a drift towards an academic exercise in style (which for me means giving up inspiration to indulge in narcissism). Fortunately, however, this piece does not last long and again the high notes of the soloist arrive, which in the end go up together with the choir, obtaining an even more theatrical result, ranging from grotesque to insane. 

Very avant-garde piece that, overall, apart from some self indulgent moments, tries to make creative music outside the canons, following a coherent and I would say almost Dadaist or Absurd composition. 

As far as I'm concerned, a small masterpiece, a strong contender.



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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: October 06 2021 at 05:42
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

George: Bulgarian TV Choir video doesn't play for me. Hope this is the same thing:
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Yes (sans the host).


Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: October 07 2021 at 14:37
^ Thank you Lorenzo for your thoughts. Much appreciated.

They are just singing nonsense words. My guess would be that Per Nørgård wrote them himself - unless it is some sort of dadaist poem, but I couldn't find info on that.


Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: October 07 2021 at 14:41
I will open the poll on Wednesday (13 October), so please have your nominations ready by then.


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 07 2021 at 14:50
There are a number I would quite like to mention, but I won't since I know my nomination will be Ennio Morricone - "Dies Irae" from the Il Sorriso del Grande Tentatore soundtrack.

Okay, since I twisted my own leg and I insist:

Geinoh Yamashirogumi - "Requiem"



Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: October 07 2021 at 17:44
Notes on my first listen, to the end of Page One, with some additions.  Another toughie, but aren't they all?  Smile

Cristi:  Phoenix “Mugus de Fluier”  Upbeat guitar strumming and a flute start the piece out. Very pleasant male vocalist, backed with angelic female choir joins in.  This is lovely, reminds me a bit of “Glimpse of Heaven,” by Strawbs, more the same kind of feeling as opposed to precisely sounding like it.  Rustic violin joins in as the piece closes.  Looking up the lyrics in English, very much so, a positive, new start kind of a son..  Phoenix  “Fata Verde”  This one feels very French Country to me, rockier than the first selection, about dangerous, alluring green women of the forest.  Like the sense of enchantment, there is orchestral accompaniment in this one, with strings and flutes.  Celtic feeling as well.  Feels as though this could be part of a stage presentation, with the way the chorus is utilized.  Therion “Therion Draconian Trilogy – Completa”  Orchestral start to this, with heavy strings under, light over.  Electric lead comes over the top.  Much more strident use of the chorus here.  Drums and electric guitar crunch along together.  Male choral vocals add a sense of foreboding, then the female vocals return.  The whole thing sweeps along, men and women now joining together, while the band and orchestra carry on. All drops out for piano and violin duetting.   I was actually watching a little video of a moving art project of a haunted house that was intricately done, and all from 3D printing, went along perfectly!  😊  Therion “Nightside of Eden”  Here the heaviness is in immediate evidence, with driving drums and electric strumming, bass steady underneath.  Chunka chunka guitar switches it up a bit, operatic chorus then kicks in, with a deep spoken-ish vocal.  Chorus is truly the word, with it being a bit call and response between the lead vocal and the male and female choruses trading places at regular intervals.  An electric lead guitar takes center stage, adding some variety to the piece.  The chorus goes on a bit, then back to the band for an instrumental break.  Female chorus returns and then the male lead, then the male chorus, in like manner to the first part.  Another lead guitar break and the piece ends in a grand flourish. Your first is my preferred track that you brought this time.

SuperMetro:  PFM “L’Isola di Niente”  I am really only familiar with Per un amico, so am interested to hear this.  Full on chorus of men and women, must be setting the stage for the piece.  And sure enough, here it goes, full on electric band steps up, with what I remember as being “PFM style vocals.”  There are many changes very quickly, the piece moves right along in a very 70’s progressive way (which I enjoy).  Softens up a bit (we are now 4 minutes in) and the mood changes, dropping down to just plucked guitar and then some synth washes.  Pretty, orchestral flutes and strings are now at center.  Bubbly keyboards plink about for a bit and gradually build.  Back to the harder edge with the drums and guitars, then all ceases for the chorus once again.And back to the band and vocals, some more chorus and an excellent guitar solo lead and ends by fading out.  Very enjoyable!

Anders:  Mieskuoro Huutajat “Star Spangled Banner”  Starting with wolf howls, then into a sort of march cadence, they sort of singsong the lyrics of the song.  More wolf howls.  Kind of interesting to see this, as an American, it is how I see the militaristic side of our country in not such a great light, as well. I have a feeling you're going to enter another, so waiting before deciding my fave of yours.  

Mike:  Ayreon “Day 2: Isolation”  Whooshing sound, then plucked guitar and a soft, male vocal, whingles of keyboards.  A sweet-voiced woman responds to the questions he asks in the lyrics.  Then heavy, chunky chords and drumbeats, blare of organ join in, changing the feel from just wonder to fright.  An operatic sort of piece.  Female chorus is introduced and back to the male vocals, interplay between several.  A break to flue and strings, then the soft, first female vocalist returns.  Whirly keys, then full electric band is back.  Full choral reenters and the piece comes to a close, with the main character being awakened.  Choir! Choir! Choir! “Space Oddity”  Acoustic guitar begins, with the choir starting up with the melody, then right into the lyrics.  The piece suits a full chorus very well, in it’s “largeness,” of feeling.  Fun to hear this, in this way.    Krzysztof Penderecki “Agnus Dei”  First of all, what a beautiful setting!  The women mostly are at the start here, in a traditional choral grouping.  The men join in, with the women’s voices creating a most etheric swell.  The music is now building tension, then fades, beginning another sort of segment, which grows and becomes climactic and a bit dissonant.  The male voices are again featured and rejoined with the women.  The piece concludes peacefully. I like the Penderecki of yours the best.

Kees:  Silver Mt. Zion Memorial Orchestra & The Tra-la-la Band with Choir “So Some Lonesome Corners So Many Flowers Bloom”  Counting out starts this one, it sounds like it’s in a big building, like a dance rehearsal.  Single notes of guitar step into the room, building a feeling of tension, then some layered male and female vocals create a choir sound.   There are some delicate little “plings,” here and there, subtle in the mix.  Male voices come to the fore in a kind of chant and also a round.  The women join in again, similarly to what the chanting/round thing is doing, yet different.  An orchestral swell now are in play, in a ascendant sound.  Single guitar notes with a bell-like sound, then some lush synth shimmers in and out, with some bowed-type sounds, then becomes an echoed violin (although it may be being done with effects on another instrument), there are subtle fluted noises also.  Just gorgeous! Melancholy string sounds play with some orchestral hits (horns?) and drums.  The piece slowly fades to it’s end.  I expected a journey and I got one.  Well-done, Kees!  This is my favourite of your two.

 

 



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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: October 07 2021 at 17:54
Definitely out of competition, but this was shared on my FB newsfeed today, serendipitously:




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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: October 08 2021 at 05:49


Thanks for sharing Nickie! Started my day with a good chuckle.


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 08 2021 at 06:06
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Cristi:  Phoenix “Mugus de Fluier”  Upbeat guitar strumming and a flute start the piece out. Very pleasant male vocalist, backed with angelic female choir joins in.  This is lovely, reminds me a bit of “Glimpse of Heaven,” by Strawbs, more the same kind of feeling as opposed to precisely sounding like it.  Rustic violin joins in as the piece closes.  Looking up the lyrics in English, very much so, a positive, new start kind of a son..  Phoenix  “Fata Verde”  This one feels very French Country to me, rockier than the first selection, about dangerous, alluring green women of the forest.  Like the sense of enchantment, there is orchestral accompaniment in this one, with strings and flutes.  Celtic feeling as well.  Feels as though this could be part of a stage presentation, with the way the chorus is utilized.  

I listen a bit to that Strawbs song, I don't see the resemblance. Confused

The song title is a metaphor, word by word translation is " flute sprout or flute bud". The original song is from 1974, it's one of the better re-workings from the 1992 album, with a symphony orchestra and choirs I mentioned earlier.

"Fata Verde" is also originally from 1974, but it was called "Ochii Negri, Ochi de Tigan" which means "Black Gypsy Eyes". I don't know why they changed the song title, but anyway, one of the good reworkings. 

The first song I thought of posting was called "Vara" which means "summer" but it's not on youtube. The whole album is there though, for anyone curious. Tongue



Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: October 08 2021 at 06:12
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Anders:  Mieskuoro Huutajat “Star Spangled Banner”  Starting with wolf howls, then into a sort of march cadence, they sort of singsong the lyrics of the song.  More wolf howls.  Kind of interesting to see this, as an American, it is how I see the militaristic side of our country in not such a great light, as well. I have a feeling you're going to enter another, so waiting before deciding my fave of yours.  


It is out of competition, I will stick with my initial choice (Per Nørgård's "Wiigenlied").


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 08 2021 at 06:18
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

...Greg:  Ennio
Morricone “Dies Irae (from Il Sorriso del Grande Tentatore)”  A decidedly “religious,” feel to this from the start.  Church-type choir and, slowly, church bells/organ sounds come in, softly, in the background.  Swift, staccato punctuation begins, giving a sense of tension, perhaps of temptation or possession.  The voices become more exultant, or are they more frightened?  They sound sort of chant-like for a bit, like the part of Atom Heart Mother with the chanting.  It then becomes almost like two sides, scolding one another.  Perhaps a war of belief and conflicting desires, torn between good and evil.  The voices begin to fade, with some organ beneath them, then fade away entirely....


Thanks for the write-up Nickie, and the Catsody.

I haven't seen the 1974 film (The Smile of the Great Tempter is how I think it translates) starring Glenda Jackson and known in English as The Devil is a Woman (think I have seen some of it) but here is the IMDB description.

"The Mother Superior of a convent wields power in its most vicious forms. And as she as she destroys the people in her care, she herself becomes her own victim as she draws on all her spiritual powers to drive out the tempter."

As for the Atom Heart Mother suite, I love the choral "Breast Milky" part and re-discovered that album (after not listening for many years) at the same time that I discovered this soundtrack -- or just after as I got hugely into Morricone a decade or so ago. I was very into such choral music of the late 60s through 70s music at the time. For that matter, I also discovered William Sheller (included in my last poll sans any votes - lol) at the same time, and Geinoh Yamashirogumi which was in the poll previous to that at the same time. I doubt many here will appreciate it anywhere near as much as I do, but I love it.


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 08 2021 at 07:07
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Cristi: Phoenix “Mugus de Fluier” Upbeat guitar strumming and a flute start the piece out. Very pleasant male vocalist, backed with angelic female choir joins in. This is lovely, reminds me a bit of “Glimpse of Heaven,” by Strawbs, more the same kind of feeling as opposed to precisely sounding like it. Rustic violin joins in as the piece closes....
I listen a bit to that Strawbs song, I don't see the resemblance. Confused ...


I find it rather interesting how different people make different associations and what is reminiscent in some way of something to one to whatever extent will not be to another at all. I just listened to both and am also getting a similar feel to the music - maybe partially because I was looking for it. To me they both in part have similar jaunty folk rock approach in part, pastoral folk qualities, a mix of jaunty and more sober and various similarities. The more I listen to both the more similar they sound, so I am beyond Nickie's "a bit". I could easily imagine who who likes one of those appreciating the other. Those two tracks will now be linked in my head.

I have often said something like "X rather reminds me of Y" and another has said "What are you talking about? They sound nothing alike!" When someone says nothing alike, that is very easy to rebut, but just because something reminds me of something doesn't mean that another should have the same experience and associations as people interpret differently and focus on different aspects, as we all have different brains and different experiences and our brains associate things differently. Music listening is a subjective experience.

We are all pattern seeking animals, but I think some seek out the similarities more while others tend to focus more in the differences. I tend to be quite holistic in outlook and seek connection. That's my psyche's temperament.

I was getting into this topic in another thread recently. It's an interesting one to me from a neurological and psychological perspective.


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: October 08 2021 at 08:15
Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Anders:  Mieskuoro Huutajat “Star Spangled Banner”  Starting with wolf howls, then into a sort of march cadence, they sort of singsong the lyrics of the song.  More wolf howls.  Kind of interesting to see this, as an American, it is how I see the militaristic side of our country in not such a great light, as well. I have a feeling you're going to enter another, so waiting before deciding my fave of yours.  


It is out of competition, I will stick with my initial choice (Per Nørgård's "Wiigenlied").
Thank for letting us all know, Anders!

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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: October 08 2021 at 08:22
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Cristi: Phoenix “Mugus de Fluier” Upbeat guitar strumming and a flute start the piece out. Very pleasant male vocalist, backed with angelic female choir joins in. This is lovely, reminds me a bit of “Glimpse of Heaven,” by Strawbs, more the same kind of feeling as opposed to precisely sounding like it. Rustic violin joins in as the piece closes....
I listen a bit to that Strawbs song, I don't see the resemblance. Confused ...


I find it rather interesting how different people make different associations and what is reminiscent in some way of something to one to whatever extent will not be to another at all. I just listened to both and am also getting a similar feel to the music - maybe partially because I was looking for it. To me they both in part have similar jaunty folk rock approach in part, pastoral folk qualities, a mix of jaunty and more sober and various similarities. The more I listen to both the more similar they sound, so I am beyond Nickie's "a bit". I could easily imagine who who likes one of those appreciating the other. Those two tracks will now be linked in my head.

I have often said something like "X rather reminds me of Y" and another has said "What are you talking about? They sound nothing alike!" When someone says nothing alike, that is very easy to rebut, but just because something reminds me of something doesn't mean that another should have the same experience and associations as people interpret differently and focus on different aspects, as we all have different brains and different experiences and our brains associate things differently. Music listening is a subjective experience.

We are all pattern seeking animals, but I think some seek out the similarities more while others tend to focus more in the differences. I tend to be quite holistic in outlook and seek connection. That's my psyche's temperament.

I was getting into this topic in another thread recently. It's an interesting one to me from a neurological and psychological perspective.
  

I appreciate both of these comments.  I would never compare this act to Strawbs overall, but from my own experience, I did hear something more along the lines of how Logan describes it with similarities/differences in terms of emotional response and the sonic quality of the chorus.  

I did use comparatives more in listening to this, perhaps because I don't know a lot of choral music, although I enjoy it when I hear it.  I have perhaps less of a vocabulary to draw on and the music is not oblique enough to use many of my oft-made-up words to describe a sound or effect.  The sonic differences are much more subtle. 

Anyway, thank you both for thinking on my reflections.  I enjoy the dialogues here.  


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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: October 08 2021 at 08:25
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:



Thanks for the write-up Nickie, and the Catsody.

I haven't seen the 1974 film (The Smile of the Great Tempter is how I think it translates) starring Glenda Jackson and known in English as The Devil is a Woman (think I have seen some of it) but here is the IMDB description.

"The Mother Superior of a convent wields power in its most vicious forms. And as she as she destroys the people in her care, she herself becomes her own victim as she draws on all her spiritual powers to drive out the tempter."

As for the Atom Heart Mother suite, I love the choral "Breast Milky" part and re-discovered that album (after not listening for many years) at the same time that I discovered this soundtrack -- or just after as I got hugely into Morricone a decade or so ago. I was very into such choral music of the late 60s through 70s music at the time. For that matter, I also discovered William Sheller (included in my last poll sans any votes - lol) at the same time, and Geinoh Yamashirogumi which was in the poll previous to that at the same time. I doubt many here will appreciate it anywhere near as much as I do, but I love it.
  

Glad you enjoyed the Catsody.  Atom Heart Mother is my favourite PF recording.  Always gives me chills.  I used to sleep with the radio on when a teenager, we had the late, great KPPC underground station in Los Angeles.  I would often wake up with AHM playing in the wee, dark hours.  Always a bit spooky, but also delicious to hear with no daylight noises about.


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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: October 08 2021 at 08:26
Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:



Thanks for sharing Nickie! Started my day with a good chuckle.

Glad you enjoyed, it made me laugh, too!


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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: October 08 2021 at 12:22
First thoughts to end of Page Two with one addition:

Mila:  YL Male Voice Choir “Pohjois-Karjala”  Begins with a solo male, there is some echo, I think it is natural, perhaps, as opposed to a studio effect.  Chorus of males join in, then a second portion of chorus is added to the two going at once.  Solo comes forward again and adds another layer.  High voice soars above the rest.  Abrupt stop, then a new melody begins, second layer of chorus returns, another high voice soars once again.  A third layer, then that high, soaring, once again.  It fades, then all join in for another round.    It ends with a triumphant flourish. Tresor ft. The Soil “Silale”  Steady beat at the start, with a jubilant and buoyant,  happy feeling.  Bass bubbles along underneath, very pleasing tune, with some great dancing on the video.  Layered female vocalist comes to the fore, then back to the main theme.  There is a call and response feel to this as well, perhaps the male and female perspectives in a bit of a discussion, but playful, no real argument.  Meredth Monk & Vocal Ensemble “Songs of Ascension”  Soft chorus that is joined with a harmonium, it would seem, then some high vocalisations punctuate the drone of the harmonium sound.  Strips down to shimmery sounds, then a repeat of what has been preceding.  Now a string section plaintively enters, gorgeous.  A haunting solo female vocal now steps in, softly joined by the strings after a few moments.  The strings are more dissonant now.  Strings pick up and take off on their own, in a change of pace and are joined by a low reed of some sort.  Now the strings go off in another direction and the solo female is heard with them once again.  The drone is back with a more “churchy,” sound to the solo woman’s voice, at least to my ear.  The venue is as much an instrument as the voices and instruments here, as the different parts of the stairway with water at the bottom changes the sonic tones.  Very dissonant strings now, with the harmonium drone again, and many voices comingle.  There are high vocals weaving into the entire ensemble now and the piece comes to a kind of abrupt end.  This is my favourite of yours. 


Greg:  Geinoh Yamashirogumi “Requiem”  Deep boom sounds, with a sense of a slow, slow, march.  Some high bell type notes, or fluted notes are heard, as the pace slowly picks up.  Doom sense, with tension.  A subtle choir enters, with angelic tones.  Organ notes as the choir ceases.  Some whirlies of marimba flitter across the organscape, then a full-on pipe organ iconic sound begins.  Male chorus is now heard, in kind of a harsh way.  The organ becomes more ornate, then scales back again into almost a calliope sound.  The males all come back again, this reminds me of some of those monk things we heard back in the Talk Talk poll.  They roll back and there is a steady beat on Taiko type drums, it sounds like, then more soft chanting is added, with several layers, some are quite high.  It all rolls back once more and soft chorus is back.  Some solo hits of a bass drum, as the chorus is faded and the piece ends.  This is my favourite of yours.


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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 08 2021 at 16:49
First page

@JD I like especially Sospan Fach


@Logan
Morricone: another masterpiece of his, strong contender. Wonderful progression and climax


@TCat
The first is very light, on the second, I am very demanding with opera singers, so, I prefer Agnus Dei.

@Lewian 
The Wim Mertens' piece is excellent. Beautiful melodic line played by violins. Contender



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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 08 2021 at 16:58
Firts page, again

@Suitkees

I like a lot Mieskuoro Huutajat - Oulujoki, that I could consider competing with the proposal of The Anders.


@mathman
I prefer Bulgarian State Television Female Choir - Pilentze Pee, evocative


@SuperMetro.
I know this song. In this album Pfm have changed her sound by addressing directly to the American market. In Italy this change has been heavily criticized, and actually I also don't like the production of this album very much. The music is still very refined but has become less melodic and colder. For example, the opening chorus, for which this song is famous, seems to me quite academic, without jolts. But that's just my opinion.


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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 08 2021 at 17:00
Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

First page

@JD I like especially Sospan Fach

Thanks man. Here's the story behind that one. As a teen I worked in camera, stereo and record departments of local retail stores. We were allowed to open a record every now and then to play on the stereo's, but not too loud. Every now and then I'd find something I liked, buy a cassette tape and record it for my listening pleasure. For some reason i had this tape for years but hadn't labeled it. and eventually forgot who the band was. But I always thought the Sospan Fach was some random track that had gotten put on the end of the tape. It was several years later that I rediscovered the album on CD by recognizing the cover of Man's - Back Into The Future. It's still a great album.


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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: October 09 2021 at 13:19
Well known but ,,damn..one of my favorite tracks by the Stones....simply superb.




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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: October 09 2021 at 13:33

This one has been part of my "first aid kit" for years! Thumbs Up


Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: October 09 2021 at 16:06
I will have to reconsider one of my suggestions. The Meredith Monk video features only excerpts from her "Songs of Ascension" project which is certainly an interesting document but it is hard to assess in the context of a music poll. Besides I noticed only now that Lewian mentioned earlier that he had introduced her before in another poll.


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 09 2021 at 16:21
Originally posted by Scicolette Scicolette wrote:

Greg: Geinoh Yamashirogumi “Requiem” Deep boom sounds, with a sense of a slow, slow, march. Some high bell type notes, or fluted notes are heard, as the pace slowly picks up. Doom sense, with tension. A subtle choir enters, with angelic tones. Organ notes as the choir ceases. Some whirlies of marimba flitter across the organscape, then a full-on pipe organ iconic sound begins. Male chorus is now heard, in kind of a harsh way. The organ becomes more ornate, then scales back again into almost a calliope sound. The males all come back again, this reminds me of some of those monk things we heard back in the Talk Talk poll. They roll back and there is a steady beat on Taiko type drums, it sounds like, then more soft chanting is added, with several layers, some are quite high. It all rolls back once more and soft chorus is back. Some solo hits of a bass drum, as the chorus is faded and the piece ends. This is my favourite of yours.


Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

@Logan
Morricone: another masterpiece of his, strong contender. Wonderful progression and climax


Glad you liked the G.Y., Nickie, and you liked the E.M., Lorenzo.

I love each in its own way. I was sure I was going to go with the Ennio Morricone, as I find it powerful, but this presents a dilemma.

My other Geinoh Yamshirogumi choice did well in another poll recently (despite the length), and when I did my soundtracks one I was positive I was going to go with a different Morricone, but then changed it because of a comment (and the choice I went with got no votes). Not that votes really matter, exposure is more important to me, but ultimately I have to follow my gut. Since I kind of regret not going with a Morricone before (he was why I did the soundtracks one), I am still favouring the Morricone for this one. :)


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 09 2021 at 17:26
First page 

@Cristi
I especially like the first song by Therion which combines power symphonic metal with almost church choirs,

and the first of Phoenix, with an almost folk song, very catchy.


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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: October 09 2021 at 17:52
I do know this one, so will not do my usual breakdown of it.  

dr wu23:  Rolling Stones “You Can’t Always Get What You Want”  I quite enjoyed this whole album and had the good fortune to see them live in this era.  A most excellent use of choir in a rock piece and a great choice!




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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: October 09 2021 at 18:07
Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

I will have to reconsider one of my suggestions. The Meredith Monk video features only excerpts from her "Songs of Ascension" project which is certainly an interesting document but it is hard to assess in the context of a music poll. Besides I noticed only now that Lewian mentioned earlier that he had introduced her before in another poll.

...although this kind of thing (re-use) happens all the time and isn't a big problem in my view, unless one has the personal ambition to avoid it. (I wouldn't vote for that one though, as I know it.)


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 10 2021 at 02:49
Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

First page 

@Cristi
I especially like the first song by Therion which combines power symphonic metal with almost church choirs,

and the first of Phoenix, with an almost folk song, very catchy.

Therion are the creators of symphonic metal. 

As for the Phoenix song, like I said, in 1992, they re-recorded some of their older songs from the 70s with an orchestra and choirs. 
Here is the original Mugur de Fluier song from 1974. 



Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: October 10 2021 at 10:39
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

I will have to reconsider one of my suggestions. The Meredith Monk video features only excerpts from her "Songs of Ascension" project which is certainly an interesting document but it is hard to assess in the context of a music poll. Besides I noticed only now that Lewian mentioned earlier that he had introduced her before in another poll.

...although this kind of thing (re-use) happens all the time and isn't a big problem in my view, unless one has the personal ambition to avoid it. (I wouldn't vote for that one though, as I know it.)
I only recently joined the forum. I'm glad that you mentioned Meredith. I was thinking about creating a list with all nominated songs, if there is an interest. And yes, I do have a personal ambition to bring new artists. Smile


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 10 2021 at 14:07
For strong stomachs only:


Try turning up the volume and listening. Be honest: did you make it to the end of the song?




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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: October 10 2021 at 17:57
^ I did make it to the end, and as for now it would clearly be a contender for my part if it is nominated. Intriguing singing style. My parents have some old LP's with traditional music from Sardinia, and there is some vocal music there which sounds a bit like this. Are they Sardinian by any chance?


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 10 2021 at 19:10
Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

^ I did make it to the end, and as for now it would clearly be a contender for my part if it is nominated. Intriguing singing style. My parents have some old LP's with traditional music from Sardinia, and there is some vocal music there which sounds a bit like this. Are they Sardinian by any chance?

Yes, they are Sardinians. In fact, I don't understand a single word of what they sing. It is an "extreme" way of singing. And I confess that I can't get to the end of the song, due to too much repetition (I like the first 1-2 minutes). So, I envy you, you know how to appreciate it.

I love Corsican folk songs. And it is interesting how in Corsica there is nothing similar to Tenores Di Bitti (Corsica and Sardinia are two islands very close and the language of the north of Sardinia is similar to Corsican) - paradoxically, the Corsican language is much more similar to Italian (in fact it is its dialect) of the Sardinian language.

For the nomination, you made me doubt. Who knows, if anyone else appreciates ...


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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: October 10 2021 at 19:27
Lorenzo:

As you can doubtless imagine, with a challenge like that, I did make it all the way through.  It sounded a bit like an accordion quartet, if there was such a thing, lots of drone.  Also felt a little like those hard little dental floss brushes in my brain, but not altogether unpleasant.  I do have a lot of patience for repetition in music, albeit, I often prefer a softer, spacier sort, despite my love for Lark's Tongues.  I will say I do still prefer your "A Filetta “ offering.  


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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 06:20
Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Try turning up the volume and listening. Be honest: did you make it to the end of the song?
 

It isn't that tough really. Tongue (But then I'm a tough cookie when it comes to strange sounds.)


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 10:38
My nomination: Roberto De Simone - Kyrie



I apologize for the indecision, I decided for this piece taken from the Requiem for Pasolini, which seems to me better than the other (Libera Me Domine) a mix between sacred music and blues.

However, I am pleased that The Anders appreciated Tenores Di Bitti, which I have not yet been able to please me.



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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 10:41
Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

For strong stomachs only:


Try turning up the volume and listening. Be honest: did you make it to the end of the song?

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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 10:47
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

For strong stomachs only:


Try turning up the volume and listening. Be honest: did you make it to the end of the song?

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Oh yeah, so I'm not the only one!


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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 10:51
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Lorenzo:
Also felt a little like those hard little dental floss brushes in my brain, but not altogether unpleasant.

LOL


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 10:54
Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

My nomination: Roberto De Simone - Kyrie



I apologize for the indecision, I decided for this piece taken from the Requiem for Pasolini, which seems to me better than the other (Libera Me Domine) a mix between sacred music and blues.

However, I am pleased that The Anders appreciated Tenores Di Bitti, which I have not yet been able to please me.




A wonderful choice. :D

An I think you mentioned me probably knowing Pasolini if my memory is correct. My favourite film of his is Porcile (has a certain sentimental value).





Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 11:12
@ Lorenzo, Tenores di Bitti

I'm always in favour of cultural diversity. In Alentejo, a Southern region of Portugal, they also have a polyphonic singing tradition, the Canto Alentejano usually performed by male choirs. "Grândola, Vila Morena" became the anthem of the Carnation Revolution of 1974. I see, I'm a bit late with my comment but I still wanted to add this.



Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 11:47
One more from Lorenzo, with my first take on it:

Lorenzo:  R. De Simone “Kyrie”  A slightly dissonant chorus, which starts sounding in distress, perhaps.  It is joined with some soft orchestral horns and percussion, also some string join in, as it becomes more ecstatic.  A bugle? plays a short solo (meant perhaps to be similar to a shofar?), as in making an announcement.  A male voice comes to the fore, with a more blues presentation, organ and drums.  The chorus returns with the orchestra, then they call and response with the male singer.  All becomes quite triumphant in tone, with cymbal crashes and horns.  The blues treatment returns, with the male singer, then the horns and chorus are back, call and response again, still ecstatic, it comes to a climactic ending.  Sounds like it would be quite the film to see.  


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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 14:03
Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

@ Lorenzo, Tenores di Bitti

I'm always in favour of cultural diversity. In Alentejo, a Southern region of Portugal, they also have a polyphonic singing tradition, the Canto Alentejano usually performed by male choirs. "Grândola, Vila Morena" became the anthem of the Carnation Revolution of 1974. I see, I'm a bit late with my comment but I still wanted to add this.


I've listened to it. Much better than Tenores Di Bitti, in my opinion.

It is clear that each country has its songs and the traditional folk dances, and each has its own dignity. Each tradition expresses not only a culture but a feeling, and the pleasure or dislike also depends on how much we are able to tune in to that wave frequency, to that feeling.

Folk / ethnic songs are very different from country to country.
I generally tend to be very interested in folk / ethnic music, but I don't like all of them. For example, I dont like Tenores Di Bitti and the "saudade" which imbues many traditional Brazilian songs (Instead I love the Argentinian tango).




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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 14:27
I have updated the poll with Lorenzo's an my nomination. Other people who have submitted songs, but not yet confirmed their nomination, are:

JD
Logan
TCat
Lewian
suitkees
mathman0806
Cristi
SuperMetro
Snicolette
Mila-13
dr wu23

Please let me know if I missed someone.


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 15:04
I think I'll go with Mediaeval Baebes for this one.  

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 15:14
Phoenix - Mugur de Fluier - final nomination 


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 15:44
While I had second thoughts, I will stick with Ennio Morricone - Dies Irae as my nomination.


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 16:16
I stick to Wim Mertens (the other one, Deep Forest, wasn't even commented on; I was pretty sure to not nominate it anyway).


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 16:39
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

I stick to Wim Mertens (the other one, Deep Forest, wasn't even commented on; I was pretty sure to not nominate it anyway).
  I actually did comment, but both of yours are on my "relisten if chosen," list.  Smile

I take that back, I  think I inadvertently didn't add it after your first one?  Here is my take:

Christian:  Deep Forest “Sweet Lullaby”  (I am unfamiliar with this) Pan-type flutes (or done on keys?) and chanting open the piece.  There are sounds of crickets interspersed.  A woman’s voice softly sings while drums and keys underpin her voice.  The opening part repeats.  Hypnotic sort of song.  The woman returns and is joined by a choral group, sounds like children included.  Interesting how the vocalizations are similar to African ones and also, sometimes like Hawaiian Islands singing.  Nevertheless, a sense of antiquity to it.  You could choose either of yours and they will be in the “second listen,” category for me. 

I think I did get all up to here, please let me know if I missed anyone's that were in the running potentially.





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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 17:00
I nominate Bulgarian State Television Female Vocal Choir - Pilentze Pee.


Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 17:51
I'll go with this one for my nomination:

Krzysztof Penderecki - Agnus Dei


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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: October 11 2021 at 23:37
Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

@ Lorenzo, Tenores di Bitti

I'm always in favour of cultural diversity. In Alentejo, a Southern region of Portugal, they also have a polyphonic singing tradition, the Canto Alentejano usually performed by male choirs. "Grândola, Vila Morena" became the anthem of the Carnation Revolution of 1974. I see, I'm a bit late with my comment but I still wanted to add this.

I've listened to it. Much better than Tenores Di Bitti, in my opinion.

It is clear that each country has its songs and the traditional folk dances, and each has its own dignity. Each tradition expresses not only a culture but a feeling, and the pleasure or dislike also depends on how much we are able to tune in to that wave frequency, to that feeling.

Folk / ethnic songs are very different from country to country.
I generally tend to be very interested in folk / ethnic music, but I don't like all of them. For example, I dont like Tenores Di Bitti and the "saudade" which imbues many traditional Brazilian songs (Instead I love the Argentinian tango).

You meant Portuguese fado, didn't you? Because Brazil has a wide variety of musical styles, beyond samba and bossa nova.



Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 12 2021 at 05:23
Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

@ Lorenzo, Tenores di Bitti

I'm always in favour of cultural diversity. In Alentejo, a Southern region of Portugal, they also have a polyphonic singing tradition, the Canto Alentejano usually performed by male choirs. "Grândola, Vila Morena" became the anthem of the Carnation Revolution of 1974. I see, I'm a bit late with my comment but I still wanted to add this.

I've listened to it. Much better than Tenores Di Bitti, in my opinion.

It is clear that each country has its songs and the traditional folk dances, and each has its own dignity. Each tradition expresses not only a culture but a feeling, and the pleasure or dislike also depends on how much we are able to tune in to that wave frequency, to that feeling.

Folk / ethnic songs are very different from country to country.
I generally tend to be very interested in folk / ethnic music, but I don't like all of them. For example, I dont like Tenores Di Bitti and the "saudade" which imbues many traditional Brazilian songs (Instead I love the Argentinian tango).

You meant Portuguese fado, didn't you? Because Brazil has a wide variety of musical styles, beyond samba and bossa nova.


Yes, Fado, but even some Brazilian musical styles, where I feel the saudade (for example, in bossanova I often feel it).




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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 12 2021 at 05:24
Out Topic

If you are interested in Museo Rosenbach,

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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: October 12 2021 at 07:04

I'm clueless what to choose this time around. Meredith Monk has participated here before. A look at the line-up tells me that my other two options don't fit in here either. They seem comparatively trivial, well sort of. I like my African vocal group a lot. This here might be another option. It's on the jazzy side which i like and there are some African drums too but I normally try to avoid artists from the Western English speaking world because they are usually well represented and also it is very likely that someone knows my chosen artists as it already happened with Meredith. But ok, I'll make an exception and give it another try. I'm sorry for my sudden change of mind! 

Here is my nomination (info will follow)

Damon Locks & Black Monument Ensemble: Now (Forever Momentary Space)



Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: October 12 2021 at 07:26
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

I stick to Wim Mertens (the other one, Deep Forest, wasn't even commented on; I was pretty sure to not nominate it anyway).
  I actually did comment, but both of yours are on my "relisten if chosen," list.  Smile

I take that back, I  think I inadvertently didn't add it after your first one?  Here is my take:

Christian:  Deep Forest “Sweet Lullaby”  (I am unfamiliar with this) Pan-type flutes (or done on keys?) and chanting open the piece.  There are sounds of crickets interspersed.  A woman’s voice softly sings while drums and keys underpin her voice.  The opening part repeats.  Hypnotic sort of song.  The woman returns and is joined by a choral group, sounds like children included.  Interesting how the vocalizations are similar to African ones and also, sometimes like Hawaiian Islands singing.  Nevertheless, a sense of antiquity to it.  You could choose either of yours and they will be in the “second listen,” category for me. 

I think I did get all up to here, please let me know if I missed anyone's that were in the running potentially.




Thanks for this... I was somewhat manipulative fishing for comments with that posting, obviously I don't take them for granted!! I'm happy that at least you didn't know it - maybe Deep Forest are more of a European phenomenon - or I overestimate generally how well known this is. Listening to this for the first time was one of these moments of discovering a totally different way of making music to what I was familiar with. I absolutely loved it - now unfortunately to some extent affected by disapproval of the way how Deep Forest didn't properly credit and surely didn't pay those who did much of the marvellous work on it. (I'm not opposed to using these things in the first place and putting them together in new ways as some are.)


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: October 12 2021 at 11:43
First thoughts on Mila's addition:

Mila:  Damon Locks – Black Monument Ensemble “NOW (Forever Momentary Space)”  Repeating telephone or modem sounds, then steady beat of drums.  Trilling oboes and harp swirlies.  Slightly dissonant female vocals.  This is very infectious.  Oboe solo (with drums and cymbal crashes).  There are beautiful layerings of the female chorus with added higher voices, then back to jamming on the oboe (or is it a clarinet?  I should know, I knoe, but not sure).  All drops out except for the modem beep sound and the chorus, then back to drums and reeded instrument (lol, I cheated).  Swirlies return for another time.   The chorus is back, plaintively, reed and drums accompanying them.  Shimmery sounds end the piece.  That was fantastic.  😊


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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: October 12 2021 at 11:44
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:


Thanks for this... I was somewhat manipulative fishing for comments with that posting, obviously I don't take them for granted!! I'm happy that at least you didn't know it - maybe Deep Forest are more of a European phenomenon - or I overestimate generally how well known this is. Listening to this for the first time was one of these moments of discovering a totally different way of making music to what I was familiar with. I absolutely loved it - now unfortunately to some extent affected by disapproval of the way how Deep Forest didn't properly credit and surely didn't pay those who did much of the marvellous work on it. (I'm not opposed to using these things in the first place and putting them together in new ways as some are.)

Yeah, sometimes things can feel sort of tainted by what you know, later on.  However, just listening without judging the artist or the situation, which is what I try to do with a few artists I find disappointing on a personal level.  


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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 12 2021 at 13:24
Tough choice for me on this one as I really love Joe Jackson's harmonies but also really love the power of the choir in the Man title.

I'll go with:
Man - Sospan Fach (Live)


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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: October 12 2021 at 16:20
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

First thoughts on Mila's addition:
Damon Locks – Black Monument Ensemble “NOW (Forever Momentary Space)”  Repeating telephone or modem sounds, then steady beat of drums.  Trilling oboes and harp swirlies.  Slightly dissonant female vocals.  This is very infectious.  Oboe solo (with drums and cymbal crashes).  There are beautiful layerings of the female chorus with added higher voices, then back to jamming on the oboe (or is it a clarinet?  I should know, I knoe, but not sure).  All drops out except for the modem beep sound and the chorus, then back to drums and reeded instrument (lol, I cheated).  Swirlies return for another time.   The chorus is back, plaintively, reed and drums accompanying them.  Shimmery sounds end the piece.  That was fantastic.  😊
Thank you Nickie, you are our music critic queen! I'm glad that you liked this one. The music was recorded in only a few takes. Some first time members of the ensemble had never played or sung the tunes before. For Locks, the impetus was more about getting together to commune and make art than it was about producing an album. I will provide some more info later. - Oh, and the wind instrument is a clarinet. You can see the player at the beginning of the video. It's basically a jazz tune so that makes sense. Smile



Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: October 12 2021 at 16:40
Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

Thank you Nickie, you are our music critic queen! I'm glad that you liked this one. The music was recorded in only a few takes. Some first time members of the ensemble had never played or sung the tunes before. For Locks, the impetus was more about getting together to commune and make art than it was about producing an album. I will provide some more info later. - Oh, and the wind instrument is a clarinet. You can see the player at the biginning of the video. It's basically a jazz tune so that makes sense. Smile

  Truly a standout, at least for me, haven't heard much else quite like it.  And thank you for clarinet-ifying Wink the reeded instrument.

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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: October 12 2021 at 17:01
Your word creation has PA jargon potential! LOL



Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: October 12 2021 at 17:21
Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

Your word creation has PA jargon potential! LOL

  I love to make truly awful puns.  Sad but true.  

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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: October 12 2021 at 18:43
As we speak, I have nominations from everyone except suitkees, SuperMetro and dr wu23. The latter two only submitted one song each if I remember correctly, so unless they state otherwise, I will count these as their nominations.


Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: October 13 2021 at 02:21
My nomination is: Silver Mt. Zion Memorial Orchestra & The Tra-la-la Band with Choir - So Some Lonesome Corners So Many Flowers Bloom
Or, if you want it a bit Shorter: Silver Mt. Zion - So Some Lonesome Corners So Many Flowers Bloom

Haven't had the occasion to listen to anything yet; I hope I will be able to do that in the coming days...


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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: October 13 2021 at 05:32
So now all nominations are in. You can start voting Smile


Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: October 13 2021 at 06:49
Playlist!



https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx6uUQmqkHTPg6u3rVsJPotm" rel="nofollow - https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx6uUQmqkHTPg6u3rVsJPotm


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: October 13 2021 at 07:52
Thank you for the playlist, George!

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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 13 2021 at 08:04
Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Playlist!



https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx6uUQmqkHTPg6u3rVsJPotm" rel="nofollow - https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx6uUQmqkHTPg6u3rVsJPotm

Thanks, George!

In the image we see Pasolini on the set of the medium-length film "La Ricotta" (with Orson Welles), which is perhaps his masterpiece. It is part of a collective film where 5 directors, including Godard, participate with a medium-length film. Ricotta speaks of the representation of the passion of Christ and is a parable about poverty because the actor who has to be Christ ... I would not like to spoil you! Wink


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 13 2021 at 13:42
Roberto de Simone - Kyrie
Damon Locks - Black Monument Ensemble - "NOW"
Krzysztof Penderecki - Agnus Dei

Was very tempted to go with Phoenix-Mugur de Fluier. Oh well, consider it a write-in extra vote. You're not going to "hear it" yourself probably and might doubt my sanity for saying it (a sane person would not doubt that I am lacking in sanity), but it reminds me in part of George Harrison's Dream Away.



Lots of music I liked, and I love much choral music, but this was tough for me to listen to a lot at once (and I think I might be getting an attention deficit disorder).


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 13 2021 at 14:52
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Roberto de Simone - Kyrie
Damon Locks - Black Monument Ensemble - "NOW"
Krzysztof Penderecki - Agnus Dei

Was very tempted to go with Phoenix-Mugur de Fluier. Oh well, consider it a write-in extra vote. You're not going to "hear it" yourself probably and might doubt my sanity for saying it (a sane person would not doubt that I am lacking in sanity), but it reminds me in part of George Harrison's Dream Away.



Lots of music I liked, and I love much choral music, but this was tough for me to listen to a lot at once (and I think I might be getting an attention deficit disorder).


Viva Terry Gilliam!


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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 13 2021 at 18:00
My podium:

1) Per Nørgård – Wiigenlied

2) Ennio Morricone - Dies Irae

For the third place, I was undecided between:

- Wim Mertens - Maximising the Audience

Phoenix - Mugur de Fluier

Man - Sospan Fach

I go with the the easier listening, the Romanian folk of Phoenix

So, 

3) Phoenix - Mugur de Fluier

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Honorable mentions:

4) Man - Sospan Fach

5) Silver Mt. Zion - So Some Lonesome Corners So Many Flowers B

6) Mediaeval Bæbes - Memorare

7) Krzysztof Penderecki - Agnus Dei

Grand Public's Prize: Bulgarian State Television Female Vocal Choir - Pilentze Pee

Grand Critic's Prize: Wim Mertens - Maximising the Audience
 





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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: October 13 2021 at 18:39
Many thanks to The Anders, for the theme and being conductor; to Lorenzo for the creation; and to George for the playlist!ClapClapClap

Here are my Top Three for this round:

1.        Mila:  I just fell in love with this one.  Damon Locks – Black Monument Ensemble “NOW (Forever Momentary Space)”  Repeating telephone or modem sounds, then steady beat of drums.  Trilling oboes and harp swirlies.  Slightly dissonant female vocals.  This is very infectious.  Oboe solo (with drums and cymbal crashes).  There are beautiful layerings of the female chorus with added higher voices, then back to jamming on the oboe (or is it a clarinet?  I should know, I knoW, but not sure).  All drops out except for the modem beep sound and the chorus, then back to drums and reeded instrument (lol, I cheated).  Swirlies return for another time.   The chorus is back, plaintively, reed and drums accompanying them.  Shimmery sounds end the piece.  That was fantastic.  😊 IF SHE’D CHOSEN:  Meredith Monk & Vocal Ensemble “Songs of Ascension” 

  2.        Kees:  I also fell in love with this one, fickle me.  But the never having heard quite the like of Mila's gave it second place for me.  Silver Mt. Zion Memorial Orchestra & The Tra-la-la Band with Choir “Some Lonesome Corners So Many Flowers Bloom”  Counting out starts this one, it sounds like it’s in a big building, like a dance rehearsal.  Single notes of guitar step into the room, building a feeling of tension, then some layered male and female vocals create a choir sound.    There are some delicate little “plings,” here and there, subtle in the mix.  Male voices come to the fore in a kind of chant and also a round.  The women join in again, similarly to what the chanting/round thing is doing, yet different.  An orchestral swell now are in play, in a ascendant sound.  Single guitar notes with a bell-like sound, then some lush synth shimmers in and out, with some bowed type sounds, then becomes an echoed violin (although it may be being done with effects on another instrument), there are subtle fluted noises also.  Just gorgeous! Melancholy string sounds play with some orchestral hits (horns?) and drums.  The piece slowly fades to it’s end.  I expected a journey and I got one.  Well-done, Kees! *Note:  Sorry for the formatting glitch. 

3.        Christian: A third love, here is a more classical bent from my other choices.  Wim Mertens “Maximizing the Audience”  Solo piano, then cello added.  I already quite like this, for it’s more spare tone.  A more strident sense comes in for just a moment, then becomes contemplative again.  The vocals are all female, richly sung.  Smaller bowed instruments enter now, and the piece moves into a beautiful melody with all of the instrumentation.  A feeling of the tragic to my ear.  So far this is my favourite piece of all, perhaps not unsurprisingly.  I love watching the musician’s joy in the performance.  The pace begins to gallop along a bit, I get the feeling something new is about to happen in it.  The women rejoin, still rich, this now reminds me of mountain traveling, the curving road beneath and the icy summits above.  The pianist add his vocal and soars and swirls around the chorus.  The song builds to a majestic climactic ending.  Just lovely! IF HE’D CHOSEN:  Deep Forest “Sweet Lullaby” 

All of these entered the fray most closely in the battle to win me over, here are my 

Honourable Mentions:

George:  Bulgarian State Television Female Choir “Pilentze Pee”  IF HE’D CHOSEN:  VAST “Touched” or  Zap Mama “Rafiki” 

Lorenzo:  R. De Simone “Kyrie IF HE’D CHOSEN:  A Filetta “A paghjella di l'impiccati” 

Mike:  Krzysztof Penderecki “Agnus Dei”

Cristi:  Phoenix “Mugus de Fluier” 

SuperMetro:  PFM “L’Isola di Niente” 

also, if Greg had chosen:  

Greg: Geinoh Yamashirogumi “Requiem”  



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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: October 14 2021 at 15:31
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Lorenzo:  R. De Simone “Kyrie IF HE’D CHOSEN:  A Filetta “A paghjella di l'impiccati” 


I also prefer A Filetta's song, simple, genuine, all based on a melody sung with the soul. 


But in the end I thought of proposing a piece of this strange contemporary opera, the Requiem for Pasolini, to which I am attached, because it has the merit of combining cultured music with pop music, and I thought it could be appreciated. It is more ambitious, and it is a remarkable operation, but I look more at pathos and often the polyphonic songs of A Filetta give me a lot of emotion.



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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: October 14 2021 at 15:53
Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Lorenzo:  R. De Simone “Kyrie IF HE’D CHOSEN:  A Filetta “A paghjella di l'impiccati” 

I also prefer A Filetta's song, simple, genuine, all based on a melody sung with the soul. 

But in the end I thought of proposing a piece of this strange contemporary opera, the Requiem for Pasolini, to which I am attached, because it has the merit of combining cultured music with pop music, and I thought it could be appreciated. It is more ambitious, and it is a remarkable operation, but I look more at pathos and often the polyphonic songs of A Filetta give me a lot of emotion.

It does look as though the film is quite moving, something I would enjoy seeing sometime.  As always, this was a terribly hard thing to decide on a top 3 for me, and even those might end up in different orders or altogether elsewhere on another day.  Such is music and the emotions.



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