SINTESIS : cuban not argentinian !!!!
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Topic: SINTESIS : cuban not argentinian !!!!
Posted By: lucas
Subject: SINTESIS : cuban not argentinian !!!!
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 17:09
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SINTESIS are a band from Cuba, not from Argentina !!!!
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 18:03
 lucas wrote:
SINTESIS are a band from Cuba, not from Argentina !!!!
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Calm down Lucas 
This lookas like a complete mess up.The two albums showing on the discography arent mentioned on the Cuban bands website .
Compare:
With:
Ancestros
http://afrocubaweb.com/qbadisc.htm - Qbadisc
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Click here for sample tracks, pricing & to order ==> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000020RI/afrocubawebA">
1. Asoyin
2. Eyeleo
3. Oya
4. Baba
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5. Opatereo
6. Mereguo
7. Oduddua
8. Titi-Laye | |
Ancestros 2
http://afrocubaweb.com/qbadisc.htm - Qbadisc
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Click here for sample tracks, pricing & to order ==> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000020S4/afrocubawebA">
1. Assokere (Canto A Eleggue)
2. Aguanileo (Canto A Ogun)
3. Ochossi (Canto A Ochossi)
4. Obatala (Canto A Obatala)
5. Iyaoromi (Canto A Yemaya)
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6. Oyadde (Canto A Oya)
7. Iyamile (Canto A Och Un)
8. Orula (Canto A Orula)
9. Wemilere Meta A Chango (Canto A Chango)
10. Ochimini (Canto A Eleggua-Echu) | |
Orishas
BMG/Milan Latino
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1. Ibara Ago
0 2. Oggun Mariwo
0 3. Yaku Ma
0 4. Loku Aye
0 5. Asojano Mawe
0 6. Eru Aye
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0 7. Ochanla
0 8. Asaramagwa
0 9. Ayabba
10. Ochiche Iwama
11. So Sa So |
Click here for sample tracks, pricing & to order ==> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000046F1/afrocubawebA">
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very odd.....
That's why we have Spec Collabs to do this work,instead of anyone being allowed to do it.
Lucas,can you provide a definitive answer on this,and I will amend it.
Thanks
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 17:20
Síntesis
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http://www.worldmusiccentral.org/artists/artist_page.php?id=810#Discography - Discography · http://www.worldmusiccentral.org/artists/artist_page.php?id=810#Genres - Similar Music
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Síntesis was formed in 1975 as Cuba's first progressive rock band. It combined influences from groups such as Genesis, Pink Floyd and Yes with the sensibility and poetry of Cuban trova. From the beginning, the group sought some of the best Cuban songwriters to write the lyrics for the group's songs. At that time, the band was formed by Eliseo Pino (Vocals, Guitar), Ele Valdés (Vocals, Synthesizer), Miguel Porcel (Vocals, Guitar), Silvia Acea (Vocals, Keyboards), Francisco Padilla (Drums), Enrique Lafuente (Bass), José María Vitier (Keyboards) and Fernando Calveiro (Guitar).
Some biographies erroneously mention that the group dissolved shortly after its second album in 1979, En Busca De Una Nueva Flor. However, Síntesis never dissolved. It evolved, keeping some members from the original band. The new incarnation of Síntesis featured an exciting blend of progressive rock combined with Afro-Cuban Santeria ritual music and jazz.
The Síntesis of the late 1980s was led by singer and composer Carlos Alfonso, a former member of the Cuban fusion jazz band http://www.worldmusiccentral.org/artists/irakere.htm" #?>Irakere his wife Ele Valdés, the original singer and keyboardist from the 1970s version of Síntesisand multi-instrumentalist and composer Lucía Huergo. Another familiar face from the original 1970s line-up was drummer Francisco (Frank) Padilla. At that time, the rest of the band was formed by Fidel García on vocals and keyboardsJosé Bustillo on guitarand Joel Drich on batá drum. The group collaborated with one of Cuba's top Afro-Cuban singers, Lázaro Ros on its album, Ancestros (Ancestors), featuring him as an advisor and guest singer.
Lucía Huergo left in 1987. In 1989 Síntesis made a tribute to one of Cuba's finest singer-songwriters, Silvio Rodríguez. An album titled El Hombre Extraño was recorded and all the lyrics featured were by Silvio Rodríguez, who appears as a guest on one track.
José Bustillo and Frank Padilla left in 1992. They were replaced by Victor Navarrete on guitar and Raúl Pineda on batá drums. On Ancestros 2, Síntesis' 1992 album, the group's sound included Afro-Cuban chanting and percussion with Yes-style vocals and elaborate arrangements. An important addition to the band during that period was http://www.worldmusiccentral.org/artists/xalfonso.htm" #?>Equis Alfonso (or X Alfonso), the son of Carlos Alfonso and Ele Valdés. Equis proved to be a crucial addition as keyboardist, singer and composer or co-composer. He wrote half of the songs. Another key element was keyboardist and composer Esteban Puebla, who composed nearly a third of the album's music.
The group tours internationally on a regular basis. The most recent line-up is formed by:
Carlos Alfonso - director, bass, vocals
Ele Valdés - vocals, keyboards
Fidel García - vocals, percussion, keyboards
Esteban Puebla - piano, keyboards
Equis Alfonso - vocals, keyboards
Victor Navarrete - guitar, chorus
José Leonardo Angel - drums, percussion
Madonna Alfonso - chorus
Oney Cumbá - percussion |
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Grupo Síntesis (EGREM, 1977).
En Busca De Una Nueva Flor (EGREM, 1978)
Aquí Estamos (EGREM, 1981)
Hilo Directo (EGREM, 1984)
Ancestros (Cuba: EGREM/Spain: Magic Music/USA: Qbadisc, 1987)
El Hombre Extraño (Cuba: EGREM/Spain: Fonomusic, 1989)
Ancestros II (Cuba: EGREM/Spain: Magic Music/USA: Qbadisc, 1992)
En los Límites del Barrio (1994)
Orishas (Milan, 1997)
Yoruba Celebration (2000)
Habana a Flor De Piel (2001)
Sorry Tony, but the albums you gave the link to are from the same band that released 'En busca de una nueva flor', and they are from Cuba !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Posted By: Politician
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 18:03
As I understand it, there are two different bands called Sintesis: one from
Cuba and another from Argentina. The Cuban band started off playing
sympho-prog but later turned to Afropop, taking them well outside the
remit of this website. I haven't heard the Argentine band, but I
understand they played hard rock with some progressive touches.
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 18:16
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Thanks alot for that info,Politician.
Lucas...*cough* anything to add...
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 18:28
Tony R wrote:
lucas wrote:
SINTESIS are a band from Cuba, not from Argentina !!!!
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Calm down Lucas
This lookas like a complete mess up.The two albums showing on the discography arent mentioned on the Cuban bands website .
Compare:
With:
Ancestros
http://afrocubaweb.com/qbadisc.htm - Qbadisc
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Click here for sample tracks, pricing & to order ==> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000020RI/afrocubawebA">
1. Asoyin
2. Eyeleo
3. Oya
4. Baba
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5. Opatereo
6. Mereguo
7. Oduddua
8. Titi-Laye | |
Ancestros 2
http://afrocubaweb.com/qbadisc.htm - Qbadisc
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Click here for sample tracks, pricing & to order ==> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000020S4/afrocubawebA">
1. Assokere (Canto A Eleggue)
2. Aguanileo (Canto A Ogun)
3. Ochossi (Canto A Ochossi)
4. Obatala (Canto A Obatala)
5. Iyaoromi (Canto A Yemaya)
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6. Oyadde (Canto A Oya)
7. Iyamile (Canto A Och Un)
8. Orula (Canto A Orula)
9. Wemilere Meta A Chango (Canto A Chango)
10. Ochimini (Canto A Eleggua-Echu) | |
Orishas
BMG/Milan Latino
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1. Ibara Ago
0 2. Oggun Mariwo
0 3. Yaku Ma
0 4. Loku Aye
0 5. Asojano Mawe
0 6. Eru Aye
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0 7. Ochanla
0 8. Asaramagwa
0 9. Ayabba
10. Ochiche Iwama
11. So Sa So |
Click here for sample tracks, pricing & to order ==> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000046F1/afrocubawebA">
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very odd.....
That's why we have Spec Collabs to do this work,instead of anyone being allowed to do it.
Lucas,can you provide a definitive answer on this,and I will amend it.
Thanks
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BTW, did you notice that the logo of the band on the 'En busca de una nueva flor' album and the 'orishas' album is the same ?
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 18:34
Thanks for the correction, Tony and sorry for the harm caused by the "angry" smiley.
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 18:40
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Politician wrote:
As I understand it, there are two different bands called Sintesis: one from
Cuba and another from Argentina. The Cuban band started off playing
sympho-prog but later turned to Afropop, taking them well outside the
remit of this website. I haven't heard the Argentine band, but I
understand they played hard rock with some progressive touches. |
Here are some infos about the argentinian band :
SÍNTESIS
- JORGE ALBERTO MIGOYA (lg)
- JUAN CARLOS RICCI (b)
- JULIO ALBERTO CUSMAI (d)
Formed in Rosario (city 300Km North of Buenos Aires), this unknown group recorded an album in March 1976 -only in two days!
The LP features six instrumental tracks raging from progressive to symphonic, but mainly jazz-rock. The trio is joined by Sergio Polizzi (next Soluna and http://tinpan.fortunecity.com/waterloo/728/magicland/b.html#bubu" tppabs="http://tinpan.fortunecity.com/waterloo/728/magicland/b.html#bubu" my_onclick="null - Bubu ) on violin, Oscar Tissera on flute, Mariano Zarich and Chachi Ferreyra on saxes and Santiago Aldana on clarinet.
This monotonous album was released through a private pressing with an aptly drawn fold out cover. It was never reissued and is hard to get.
- ALBUM
- 1976 - SINTESIS (Profeta 0001)
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 18:46
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THERE IS AN ARGENTINIAN SINTESIS - they were a guitar/bass/drumkit trio that had the collaboration of some guests on saxes and violin. Their debut and only album was released in 1976. They played art-hard rock with progressive and jazz-rock tendencies.
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 18:49
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lucas wrote:
Thanks for the correction, Tony and sorry for the harm caused by the "angry" smiley. |
Still a mystery because as Eagle-Eye Lucas noticed the logos are the same.
I think I will step away from this one,,,,
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Posted By: Politician
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 05:02
Thanks for correcting me on the style of the Argentine band: I'd wrongly
assumed they were some kind of power trio! "En Busca De Una Nueva
Flor" and "Aquí Estamos" were definitely cut by the Cuban band - I know
that for sure as I have them in my collection. I suspect the reason that
they're not mentioned on the band's website is that the band no longer
likes progressive music (boo! hiss!), and only wanted to list its Afropop
releases. The self-titled début album from 1977 is a new one on me: I've
never encountered a copy and never seen it offered for sale, so I'm not
100% certain that it exists.
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 06:29
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Politician wrote:
I suspect the reason that
they're not mentioned on the band's website is that the band no longer
likes progressive music (boo! hiss!), and only wanted to list its Afropop
releases. |
Here is the discography page of sintesis' web site :
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¡¡ YA A LA VENTA!!
"TRILOGÍA DE ANCESTROS " Volumen I, II , III.
UNICORNIO-ABDALA, Cuba
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"HABANA A FLOR DE PIEL"
VELAS, Brasil, EEUU 2001
http://www.portalatino.com/platino/website/musica/disco.jsp?planguage=ES&pseccion=5&pid=4632 - ESCUCHAR FRAGMENTOS
Nominado al Grammy Latino 2002 en la categoría Mejor Álbum Tropical Contemporáneo. |
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"LO MEJOR DE SINTESIS"
UNICORNIO, Cuba 2001
http://www.portalatino.com/platino/website/musica/disco.jsp?planguage=ES&pseccion=5&pid=4987 - ESCUCHAR FRAGMENTOS |
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"YORUBA CELEBRATION"
P.O.W.RECORDS SONY, Usa, Canada, P.Rico. 2000 |
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"ORISHAS"
MILAN BMG, France 1997 |
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"EN LOS LIMITES DEL BARRIO"
ARTCOLOR ,Cuba 1995 |
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"ANCESTROS II "
ART COLOR, Cuba 1993
MAGIC MUSIC, España 1994
QBADISC, Usa,Canadá,Puerto Rico 1995 |
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"EL HOMBRE EXTRAÑO"
EGREM, Cuba 1991
TOP HITS, Venezuela 1990
FONOMUSIC, España 1991
EPIC, México 1994 |
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"ANCESTROS"
EGREM,Cuba 1988
WEA, México 1989
TOP HITS,Venezuela 1990
QBADISC, Usa,Canadá,Puerto Rico, 1992
PM RECORDS,Cuba 1992
MAGIC MUSIC,España 1994
EPIC, México 1994 |
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"HILO DIRECTO"
EGREM,Cuba 1984
WEA,México 1987 |
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"AQUI ESTAMOS"
EGREM, Cuba 1981
INTEGRA, Venezuela 1982 |
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"EN BUSCA DE UNA NUEVA FLOR"
EGREM,Cuba 1978
NUEVA CULTURA LATINOAMERICANA,México 1980 | | You can notice that all their albums are mentioned, so I don't think they are ashamed of their prog roots : they just wanted to sound different, like did most of the prog bands of the seventies.
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Posted By: Politician
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 07:48
Hmm, someone earlier in this thread said their website didn't mention
those early albums! Didn't look very closely, did they?
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 18:21
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Has this issue been resolved?
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: November 04 2005 at 08:59
bump
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