Prog bands that pass the 5 album test
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Topic: Prog bands that pass the 5 album test
Posted By: ethanm2000
Subject: Prog bands that pass the 5 album test
Date Posted: August 17 2021 at 19:46
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The 5 album test is a test for all time greatness for a musical artist. To pass the test, an artist must have 5 consecutive albums that are “great”. Great is obviously subjective, but that’s what makes this so interesting! What are some bands you think qualify, and what is their five album stretch? I’ll start with a couple easy ones: 1. Rush (2112, AFTK, Hemispheres, Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures) 2. Genesis (Foxtrot, SEBTP, TLLDOB, Trick of the Tail, W&W) What else do you got? |
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 17 2021 at 20:20
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Welcome to PA! The Yes Album; Fragile; CTTE; TFTO; Relayer.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 17 2021 at 20:26
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Univers Zero - 1313 to Heatwave Black Sabbath - s/t to Sabotage ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 17 2021 at 20:51
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Agalloch (their entire studio output) Van Der Graaf Generator (The Least... through Still Life) Jethro Tull (Stand Up through Minstrel) Univers Zero (Heresie through Heatwave, cheating slightly to include the EP Crawling Wind) That's all I can think of off the top of my head. King Crimson, Frank Zappa, Magma, Art Zoyd and Soft Machine all have 5 or more great + albums, but not consecutively. There are probably others as well, but I just can't think of them atm. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: August 17 2021 at 20:55
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The 5 album test is more of a game than a real test. See if you can agree or disagree with the bands other people think have five great consecutive albums. It's not usually an easy challenge to pass in anyone's mind, but it's also not the sole identifier of a great band. Many of the bands on this site only have a couple great ones, and many only have one album period. But the game can be fun. Here's a fun question for it: What of Pink Floyd? DSTOM - WYWH - Animals - The Wall is obviously fantastic, but to complete it you either have to choose Obscured By Clouds (no cheating and going for Meddle) or The Final Cut. Do they pass or not? ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: August 17 2021 at 21:03
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oo, another fun way to look at this might be: Rather than go by personal preference and your own opinions, what if we use the PA rating system to determine if an artist passes or not? An album would need to pass a certain rating benchmark to be considered great. I think 4.00 might be a bit too high. Maybe 3.50? Let's take a look at Floyd this way... Obscured By Clouds ~ 3.37 Dark Side Of The Moon ~ 4.61 Wish You Were Here ~ 4.63 Animals ~ 4.52 The Wall ~ 4.10 The Final Cut ~ 3.19 It seems Floyd don't quite cut it! Not without cheating and putting in Meddle, which would handily round it out with a score of 4.30. Going by the 3.50 cutoff, their first five don't quite make it either. More sits at just 3.15, and even if you don't count that one, Ummagumma has only 3.48, just barely too low. ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: August 17 2021 at 21:08
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Yes pass based on ratings, and they have not just 5, but 6 in a row, that do it. The Yes Album ~ 4.31 Fragile ~ 4.46 Close To The Edge ~ 4.67 Tales From Topographic Oceans ~ 3.90 Relayer ~ 4.37 Going For The One ~ 4.05 In fact Yes nearly pass the test with a 4.00 cutoff, if not for those pesky negative reviews bringing Tales down a tenth of a star below. The question here is which would you drop for your five album run, The Yes Album or Going For The One? I would drop Going For The One personally. ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: August 17 2021 at 21:13
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Genesis do Yes one better, with 7 (almost 9) that pass the 3.50 mark in a row, and in fact they all pass the 4.00 mark as well! Tresspass ~ 4.15 Nursery Cryme ~ 4.42 Foxtrot ~ 4.61 Selling England By The Pound ~ 4.64 The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway ~ 4.31 A Trick Of The Tail ~ 4.28 Wind And Wuthering ~ 4.11 And Then There Were Three loses Hackett and consequently over half a star, with only 3.43 to it's name. However Duke bounces back to the cutoff exactly, 3.50! Interesting. Everything afterwards is under 3 stars on here. Seems the prog board doesn't favor one of their favorite bands going pop, fancy that, lol. My run of five would be from Nursery Cryme through A Trick Of The Tail, but then I'd have another from Duke through We Can't Dance.
 ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: August 17 2021 at 21:22
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And how about King Crimson? Eight in a row!! In The Court Of The Crimson King ~ 4.63 In The Wake Of Poseidon ~ 3.84 Lizard ~ 4.13 Islands ~ 3.83 Larks' Tongues In Aspic ~ 4.42 Starless And Bible Black ~ 3.93 Red ~ 4.56 Discipline ~ 4.12 Some definite ups and downs and they wouldn't pass the 4.00 benchmark because of them, however those sub 4 entries are still pretty high scores. Beat is the first not to make it at 3.08, and with only a couple exceptions (ThraK and The Power To Believe), the Crim tends not to reach the mark after Discipline. My run of five here would be Lizard through Red. It pains me to leave out ITCOTCK, but not as much as it would pain me to leave out Red. Happily three of my other favorites are in any cut you want: Lizard, Islands, and Larks' Tongues In Aspic, though I somehow doubt anyone will be going from In The Wake Of Poseidon through Starless And Bible Black. ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: August 17 2021 at 21:27
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Jethro Tull is an interesting case indeed. They do make the cutoff, but only the 3.50 cutoff, and only with just five in a row. The usual suspects from their mid 70s output hold them back from a possible 10 or 11 album run of greatness: War Child (3.34) and Too Old To Rock N Roll: Too Young To Die (3.09). Minstrel In The Gallery sadly gets stuck between them and doesn't get to join the fun, despite passing the 4.00 cutoff. But anyway here's the run: Stand Up ~ 4.04 Benefit ~ 3.91 Aqualung ~ 4.36 Thick As A Brick ~ 4.63 A Passion Play ~ 4.04 Personally I'm a little surprised Stand Up ranks over Benefit. I always though the latter was the more well regarded of the two, though I'm happy to see some love for the jazzier, earlier incarnation. ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: August 17 2021 at 21:40
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To round out the Big 6 (which I was doing semi unintentionally just looking through the top albums of the PA top 100 list), here's Emerson, Lake, And Palmer. Similar to Pink Floyd, there is one way you can cheat them in, and I'm actually partial to this. As far as their standard studio discography goes, they just miss the mark with that opening 4 albums run: Emerson, Lake, And Palmer ~ 4.23 Tarkus ~ 4.06 Trilogy ~ 4.14 Brain Salad Surgery ~ 4.14 Works Vol. 1 ~ ....2.94 ouch BUT! If you toss in Pictures At An Exhibition, sitting between the debut and Tarkus, you can turn that four album run into five. Pictures doesn't pass the 4.00 mark, but it manages to get close with a score of 3.88. Why am I more partial to this cheat than to cheating with Pink Floyd? Typically, live albums shouldn't really count for these discussions, not because they're recorded live, but because they don't feature any new material, or perhaps a single new song or new cover. However, Pictures is an exception to this tendency, as the whole album features ELP playing material which cannot be heard on any of their studio releases: a massive rendition of the orchestral piece by the same name, but totally reinterpreted ELP style (with lyrics and vocals!). To many ELP fans it functions as an album much the same way as any of their studio recordings, despite being live and despite being (technically) a massive cover. So I'm for including it. With Floyd on the other hand, one would have to play by a different set of rules which would negate soundtrack albums on account of their soundtrackiness. Presumably any rule which would negate soundtracks, despite being composed of new material and presented much the same as albums proper, would also negate live albums, even Pictures At An Exhibition. So I think it comes down to whether you'd like Floyd to have the 5 album run or ELP. I'll go with ELP, since they don't get enough love for what they did. ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: August 17 2021 at 23:17
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^ Totally agree about Pictures - I've always thought of it as a 'proper' ELP album and it is indeed one of my all time favourites by anyone. I wonder if they never finished a studio recording of it because they realised they couldn't surpass the energy, passion and overall excellence of the live version? ------------- "We're going to need a bigger swear jar." Chloë Grace Moretz as Mindy McCready aka 'Hit Girl' in Kick-Ass 2 |
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 00:09
I think that's gotta be it. Also the record company may have been pestering them about single material after the success of Lucky Man, so they may have decided a 20 minute suite and a bunch of shorter songs was a bit wiser than a 40 minute suite and a cover of the Nutcracker as far as what they would put more effort into recording. ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Progishness wrote:Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 01:39
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Gentle Giant is an obvious contender: their first eight albums are practically all gold (six consecutive ones are rated higher than four stars on this website). Area's first five albums are all pretty spectacular as well in my opinion. ------------- https://mirasnelder.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow - Freelance composer, accepting commissions | https://mirasnelder.bandcamp.com/album/altered-acuity" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp page |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 01:48
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Maybe I'm too generous, but there's simply far too many to mention. Hundreds really. |
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 01:52
Indeed, both of them pass by the 3.5 metric, not to mention I've heard nothing but great things about or from either of them. ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 02:30
GG gets ruined for me with In A Glass House (which has always been my least favorite of the classic giants), but Area is certainly one I should have thought of. Good call. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 03:22
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Van der Graaf Generator made five consecutive albums above 4.0, and nine consecutive albums above 3.5: The Least We Can Do Is Wave to Each Other - 4.07 H To He, Who Am The Only One - 4.32 Pawn Hearts - 4.42 Godbluff - 4.47 Still Life - 4.29 World Record - 3.83 The Quiet Zone / The Pleasure Dome - 3.64 Present - 3.61 Trisector - 3.51 ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 03:24
Damn that's an unpopular GG opinion; that's my favorite GG entry! I also agree that GG makes this list. I love everything up to and including Interview. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Deadwing
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 03:33
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Porcupine Tree: FotBP, Deadwing, In Absentia, Lightbulb Sun, Stupid Dream. TBH, I enjoy all their albums except the first and I think The Sky Moves Sideways is good but not great. Supertramp: Crime on The Century, Crisis What Crisis, Even In the Quietest moments, Breakfast in America, Famous Last Words (and I could add Brother Where you bound too) Leprous: Bilateral, Coal, The Congregation, Malina, Pitfalls (hopefully their new one joins the list)
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 04:00
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VdGG - "The Least We can do is Wave to Each Other", "H to He, Who Am the only One", "Pawn Hearts", "Godbluff", "Still Life", "World Record". that's 6 even -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 04:12
Camel- 1973-1977 - 5 albums I think are great, I add Breathless to those 5.  Marillion - Script to Seasons End. IQ - Ever to present day, that's 7 albums including the re-working og Seven Stories into Eight/98. Dream Theater - 1989-1999 Kansas - debut to POKR and many others...
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Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 04:27
As I understand it, Pictures was a leftover project from Emerson's tenure with The Nice (who notably reinterpreted several classical works), and maybe he just wanted to move on without ELP becoming The Nice II. Lake may have had something to say about this too, as being their main songwriter as opposed to Emerson's composer focused approach. [On a side note, Argent had a similar conflict of interests between Rod Argent and Russ Ballard.] ------------- "We're going to need a bigger swear jar." Chloë Grace Moretz as Mindy McCready aka 'Hit Girl' in Kick-Ass 2 |
Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 04:42
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In Pink Floyd's case, if we are to ignore the soundtrack stuff (as suggested earlier in the thread, with which I agree as soundtracks are made to order, and within a time constraint) then I'd argue they were consistently good from PATGOD through to The Wall, with the lowest rating for that run of nine albums being 3.48 (Ummagumma), which is arguably pretty darned good. [I would argue that the Final Cut is deserving of a higher rating too, but it is such a divisive topic amongst Floyd fans in particular, and prog fans in general, I'll leave that argument out of it.] ------------- "We're going to need a bigger swear jar." Chloë Grace Moretz as Mindy McCready aka 'Hit Girl' in Kick-Ass 2 |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 05:55
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From the classic era: Gentle Giant, Yes, Genesis, Klaus Schulze, Tangerine Dream, Area, Univers Zero, Pink Floyd, and maybe Renaissance, Tull, Strawbs, Ange, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Herbie Hancock, Miles Davis, and VDGG. The modern bands might include: Porcupine Tree, Wobbler, Karfagen, Pendragon, After Crying, IQ, The Gathering, Dungen, Ulver, Bondage Fruit, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Riverside, Sylvan, Magma, Big Big Train, Steven Wilson, Peter Gabriel, Kayo Dot, King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard, Leprous, Nemo, Motorpsycho, and Corde Oblique. ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 05:56
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Triumvirat (Mediterranean Tales, Illusions On A Double Dimple, Spartacus, Old Loves Die Hard, Pompeii) Wallenstein (Blitzkrieg, Mother Universe, Cosmic Century, Stories, Songs and Symphonies, No More Love) Passport (Doldinger, Second Passport, Handmade, Looking Thru, Cross-Collateral) PFM-(Photos Of Ghosts, The World Became The World, Chocolate Kings, Jet Lag, Passpartu) I tend to prefer the English lyric versions of the group's efforts I concur with some of the previously mentioned examples-Yes, Gentle Giant, Rush, Genesis
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 06:01
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definitely Magma too ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 06:13
Mostly Autumn, who pass the five album test with flying colours with 25 five-star albums to their credit in a row.  Also, a worthy mention for Eloy, having just finished listening to their entire discography.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 06:21
You are fantastically delusional Using the PA ratings Black Sabbath Black Sabbath - 4.23 Paranoid - 4.32 Masters Of Reality - 4.08 Vol 4 - 3.88 Sabbath Bloody Sabbath - 4.13 Sabotage - 4.05 Univers Zero 1313 - 4.22 Heresie - 4.26 Ceux Du Dehors - 3.99 Uzed - 4.27 Heatwave - 4.03 ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 06:28
You're not a fan of Mostly Autumn then.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 06:37
That's pretty good considering they only have 14 studio albums listed in PA, and only one of them is rated over 4 stars (and that one only has 1 rating).
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 06:50
I was counting Mostly Autumn's live albums and compilations too.   1998: For All We Shared - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZZGWIfFT6kVSIhBY4ZgDEL" rel="nofollow - 1999: The Spirit of Autumn Past - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEbiPd8jMGas61uXd4LOznPi" rel="nofollow - 2001: The Last Bright Light - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEbvBIUnq5y_UDBjPmi9FJhC" rel="nofollow - 2001: Music Inspired by The Lord of the Rings - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEbyF28C2EYG0kHXkFh6grhA" rel="nofollow - 2001: The Story So Far - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZGhG71Phkf_dcAvkiqwqH" rel="nofollow - 2003: Passengers - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEaCQOCMBGAFozb7EQvId7Oa" rel="nofollow - 2003: The Next Chapter - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEbmJ0gkAsWw-qijzdzn2I7A" rel="nofollow - 2003: Live at the Grand Opera House - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZprsagIiCElxZkWDQ26Mos" rel="nofollow - 2004: The "V" Shows - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEbf1-0xkGjrqWNY2tj8MN12" rel="nofollow - 2004: Pink Floyd Revisited - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZJvg6ykEsII2xZDyerU_wK" rel="nofollow - 2005: Storms Over Still Water - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEbpbrV-OC1jpCSZCQ8pmmM2" rel="nofollow - 2006: Heart Full of Sky - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEbzEGM5N74-dFh2cfhiNzWa" rel="nofollow - 2008: Glass Shadows - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYVtRu54s7ZRVKbZ0YLWYau" rel="nofollow - 2009: Live 2009 - Part I - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYNCZ3x5s3r3QPVy2guCCNp" rel="nofollow - 2009: Live 2009 - Part II - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEaEsVA3Wyn88JARGwQx_3zT" rel="nofollow - 2010: That Night in Leamington - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZXiAFbgjZRyxTS_O5mysf0" rel="nofollow - 2010: Go Well Diamond Heart - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEbB4VQCQ1otAByVsr84oUX3" rel="nofollow - 2011: Still Beautiful - Live - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEbR9agKM6mRBncmPr3NKO3c" rel="nofollow - 2011: Live at High Voltage - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYtkZPlBp1fb7JbnA1a0h0z" rel="nofollow - 2012: The Ghost Moon Orchestra - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEbOga6VYzuPvS1YEClVEX4L" rel="nofollow - 2013: Live at the Boerderij - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEbJ27ZaTZ06zADFuBiSEoxw" rel="nofollow - 2014: Dressed in Voices - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYGB1ySTx5btuFKU8NyAq-5" rel="nofollow - 2015: Box of Tears - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYvJZvjmtdNPgUI0OPuXLpl" rel="nofollow - 2017: Sight of Day - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYb5zkWi3lW3fpB8kxEPOoQ" rel="nofollow - 2019: White Rainbow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYS1FQj-rj1KtgixMRIh_c2" rel="nofollow -
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 06:55
They're fine, a nice band, I find it somewhat hard to believe that even their most rabidly psychotic fanboy thinks that every single release is an essential masterpiece. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 07:04
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Definitely IQ, from Ever, through Subterranea, The Seventh House, Dark Matter, Frequency and Road Of Bones😎 Actually, for me, it would be from Tales From The Lush Attic through to Road Of Bones, as I love the Menel albums too. So that's 10 in a row! It's a shame about Resistance.... |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 07:29
I agree, there is no way that there is anyone in the history of music that has released 25 consecutive albums that can be classified as "masterpieces".
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 07:31
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I agree with loads of the bands already mentioned. Here's a few not mentioned: The Residents 1 Meet the Residents – 1974 2 The Third Reich 'n Roll – 1976 3 Fingerprince – 1977 4 Not Available – 1978 5 Duck Stab/Buster & Glen – 1978 6 Eskimo – 1979 7 Commercial Album – 1980 9 Mark of the Mole – 1981 10 The Tunes of Two Cities – 1982 + 11 Intermission – 1982 (long EP) 12 Title in Limbo - 1983 (Renaldo and the Loaf-collab) Miles Davis 1 E.S.P. (1965) 2 Miles Smiles (1967) 3 Sorcerer (1967) 4 Nefertiti (1968) 5 Miles in the Sky (1968) 6 Filles de Kilimanjaro (1968) 7 In a Silent Way (1969) 8 Bitches Brew (1970) (I suppose only the last four is related to prog - not too crazy about Jack Johnson which is why I stopped after Bitches) Can 1 Monster Movie (1969) 2 Soundtracks (1970) 3 Tago Mago (1971) 4 Ege Bamyasi (1972) 5 Future Days (1973) 6 Soon Over Babaluma (1974) 7 Landed (1975) Catherine Ribeiro 1 Catherine Ribeiro + 2bis (1969) 2 N°2 (1970) 3 Âme debout (1971) 4 Paix (1972) 5 Le Rat débile et l'Homme des champs (1974) 6 Libertés ? (1975) 7 Le temps de l'autre (1977) Embryo Opal (Ohr, 1970) Embryo's Rache (1971) Father Son and Holy Ghosts (1972) Steig Aus (1973) We Keep On (1973) Rocksession (1973) Terje Rypdal 1968: Bleak House 1971: Terje Rypdal 1973: What Comes After 1974: Whenever I Seem to Be Far Away 1975: Odyssey Soft Machine first till fifth, Talk Talk - all their albums, If I included jazz artists and soundtrack composers I could have kapt at it for the rest of the day. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 08:00
Why is it a shame?
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 08:10
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Goblin, anyone? Profondo Rosso (1975) Roller (1976) Suspiria (1977) Il Fantastico Viaggio del "Bagarozzo" Mark (1978) Zombi aka Dawn of the Dead (1978) Zombi Cosmos (2004) Surface to Air (2006) Spirit Animal (2009) Escape Velocity (2011) Shape Shift (2015) Tangerine Dream (Froese-Franke-Baumann line-up) Phaedra (1974) Rubycon (1975) Ricochet (1975) Stratosfear (1976) Sorcerer(1977) Tangerine Dream (Froese-Franke-Schmoelling line-up) Quichotte aka Pergamon (1980) Tangram (1980) Thief (1981) Exit (1981) White Eagle (1982) ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 09:04
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I see going by PA scores picked up a little traction from other posters, awesome! What else can we find? ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 09:08
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How about Kansas? Kansas ~ 4.00 Song For America ~ 4.14 Masque ~ 3.66 Leftoverture ~ 4.22 Point Of Know Return ~ 4.17 and indeed if they put out two more highly rated albums they'll have a second streak of five starting with 2000's Somewhere To Elsewhere. ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 09:14
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Here's one I found very interesting. Dream Theatre don't pass! Out of their 14 (soon to be 15) studio albums there's not a single streak of 5 that stays above the 3.50 mark on PA. The closest we get it from Scenes From A Memory through Octavarium, but that streak is mercilessly cast aside by Falling Into Infinity on one end and Systematic Chaos on the other. Falling Into Infinity ~ 3.33 Metropolis Part 2: Scenes From A Memory ~ 4.30 Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence ~ 4.14 Train Of Thought ~ 3.60 Octavarium ~3.67 Systematic Chaos ~ 3.31 Failling Into Infinity also cuts off the double whammy of Images And Words and Awake from continuing. A Dramatic Turn Of Events is a dramatic turn of score, hitting 3.84, but the self titled and The Astonishing ruin any chance this has at starting a new streak with Distance Over Time. ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: projeKct
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 09:31
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Interesting thread. Here are my personal picks (even though these are not my personal ratings) except the obvious ones like Genesis, King Crimson, Pink Floyd, etc. And you can see my 5-stars album in blue. Big Big Train 4.17 - The Underfall Yard - 2009 4.20 - English Electric (Part One) - 2012 4.11 - English Electric (Part Two) - 2013 4.02 - Folklore - 2016 3.99 - Grimspound - 2017 Dixie Dregs 3.64 - The Great Spectacular - 1975 3.78 - Free Fall - 1977 4.18 - What If - 1978 3.77 - Night Of The Living Dregs - 1979 3.81 - Dregs Of The Earth - 1980 The Flower Kings 4.03 - Back In The World Of Adventures - 1995 3.76 - Retropolis - 1996 3.93 - Stardust We Are - 1997 3.96 - Flower Power - 1999 3.85 - Space Revolver - 2000 Major Parkinson 3.71 - Major Parkinson - 2008 4.05 - Songs from a Solitary Home - 2010 3.99 - Twilight Cinema - 2014 3.95 - Blackbox - 2017 ?.?? - [TBA] - 2021 * yes, I'm cheating, but I'm sure it will be great! Motorpsycho 3.82 - Heavy Metal Fruit - 2010 4.17 - Motorpsycho & Ståle Storløkken: The Death Defying Unicorn - 2012 3.92 - Still Life With Eggplant - 2013 3.99 - Behind The Sun - 2014 3.86 - Here Be Monsters - 2016 Pain Of Salvation 4.11 - Entropia - 1997 3.91 - One Hour By The Concrete Lake - 1998 4.23 - The Perfect Element - Part 1 - 2000 4.23 - Remedy Lane - 2002 4.09 - Be - 2004 Anthony Phillips 4.06 - The Geese And The Ghost - 1977 3.80 - Wise After The Event - 1978 3.32 - Private Parts & Pieces - 1978 3.04 - Sides - 1979 3.79 - Private Parts & Pieces II - Back To The Pavillion - 1980 P.F.M. 4.34 - Storia Di Un Minuto - 1972 4.40 - Per Un Amico - 1972 4.02 - Photos Of Ghosts - 1973 4.22 - L'Isola Di Niente - 1974 4.02 - The World Became the World - 1974 Steely Dan 3.57 - Can't Buy a Thrill - 1972 4.02 - Countdown to Ecstasy - 1973 3.71 - Pretzel Logic - 1974 3.72 - Katy Lied - 1975 3.75 - The Royal Scam - 1976 4.15 - Aja - 1977 3.69 - Gaucho - 1980 The Tangent 3.99 - The Music That Died Alone - 2003 3.75 - The World That We Drive Through - 2004 3.84 - A Place In The Queue - 2006 3.87 - Not as Good as the Book - 2008 3.74 - Down And Out In Paris And London - 2009 * not sure about this one Transatlantic 4.07 - SMPT:e - 2000 4.17 - Bridge Across Forever - 2001 4.04 - The Whirlwind - 2009 3.82 - Kaleidoscope - 2014 3.97 - The Absolute Universe - 2021 * any version! Steven Wilson 4.19 - Grace For Drowning - 2011 4.28 - The Raven That Refused to Sing (and Other Stories) - 2013 4.29 - Hand. Cannot. Erase. - 2015 3.51 - 4 ½ - 2016 3.57 - To the Bone - 2017 Have a nice day!
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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 09:48
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I didn't see anyone mention Renaissance. Not sure what the PA ratings are on all of these but five pretty solid albums.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 09:56
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That BBT & PFM are very strong. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 10:18
I see no problem with this streak. Spirit and Freaks are fine Kansas records! In the Spirit of Things Freaks of Nature Somewhere to Elsewhere The Prelude Implicit The Absence of Presence ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 10:21
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Voyager: Univers (2007) - 3.87 I Am The Revolution (2009) - 4.16 The Meaning of I (2011) - 3.96 V (2014) - 3.92 Ghost Mile (2017) - 3.84 Symphony X: The Divine Wings of Tragedy (1997) - 4.13 Twilight in Olympus (1998) - 3.75 V: The New Mythology Suite (2000) - 4.14 The Odyssey (2002) - 3.96 Paradise Lost (2007) - 3.80 Vanden Plas: The God Thing (1997) - 3.88 Far Off Grace (1999) - 3.84 Beyond Daylight (2002) - 4.01 Christ 0 (2006) - 3.93 The Seraphic Clockwork (2010) - 3.80 |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 10:23
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Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 10:26
I checked on them last night without posting about it, and I believe the scores show that streak passes. It may add Prologue onto the front end as well. ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 10:26
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Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 10:28
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For some of those mentioning PFM. Why do you think both Photos Of Ghosts and Per Un Amico should be counted, even though they're mostly the same album with different lyrics? Same question for The World Became The World and L'Isola Di Niente? ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 10:36
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I don't think I saw The Moody Blues listed yet. This passes Sacro_Porgo's 3.50 ratings test as well. Days of Future Passed 4.19 In Search of the Lost Cord 3.85 On The Threshold of a Dream 3.77 To Our Children's Children's Children 4.09 A Question Of Balance 3.53
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 10:38
I agree
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 10:39
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Oh, and BTW, I think ELP's Works Vol 1 is under rated here. it deserves a 3.50 or better rating. There is a ton of good material on that album. ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 11:44
Works for me! I gave ELP's best album the full five-star treatment. |
Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 11:59
I've thought of another one that hasn't been mentioned yet, and PA appears to mostly disagree since neither "Product" nor "Do They Hurt?" crosses the 3.50 threshold, but I think all of Brand X's first five albums are masterpieces (and honestly, even "Is There Anything About?" in my opinion deserves much better than the 2.83 that this site's merciless userbase awarded it... )------------- https://mirasnelder.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow - Freelance composer, accepting commissions | https://mirasnelder.bandcamp.com/album/altered-acuity" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp page |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 12:39
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 14:45
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Going by PA ratings and 3.50 threshold, Zappa has a string of 13 from Waka/Jawaka through Ship Arriving Too Late to Save a Drowning Witch. Eloy has a string of 9 from Inside to Time to Turn. Banco almost made it, but Garofano Rosso is rated 3.49 It's too bad we can't do some sort of SQL query on the database to find all such strings, not that I would remember how to do it since I haven't worked with SQL queries since the 1990s. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: projeKct
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 14:47
I guess you're right, we shouldn't count them as different albums, but they are so good... Anyway, I just did a comparison between those PFM albums, and here is what I found: Photos of Ghosts is like Per un amico with English lyrics (except for Il banchetto) + a new recording of E festa from their first album. But there are several notable differences. 1. River of Life has an outro, while Appena un po' has an intro 2. Celebration feels like a radio edit of E festa, but is a new recording 3. Photos of Ghosts and Per un amico are identical, except for the new lyrics 4. Old Rain is a new instrumental piece, only available on this album 5. Il banchetto is of course identical on both albums 6. Mr. 9 'till 5 and Generale! are identical, with added lyrics 7. Promenade the Puzzle and Geranio are identical, except for the new lyrics and the ending The World Became the World is like L'isola di niente with English lyrics + a new recording of Impressioni di settembre from their first album. 1. The Mountain and L'isola di niente are identical, except for the new lyrics 2. Just Look Away and Dolcissima Maria are identical, except for the new lyrics 3. The World Became the World and Impressioni di settembre are very different, not even in the same key! and the ending... 4. Four Holes in the Ground and La luna nuova are identical, except for the new lyrics 5. Is My Face on Straight? is of course identical on both albums 6. Have Your Cake and Beat It and Via Lumière are identical And the running order for both albums are different. You may already know all of that, but it was fun to do these comparisons.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 14:52
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Godspeed You Black Emperor have seven albums, the lowest is rated 3.70. |
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 15:06
I've never actually listened to the english versions, so that was interesting to read. It appears they're a little bit more different than I thought. How good is Old Rain? I'd never looked closely enough to realize there's a brand new piece on Photos Of Ghosts, and that plus the other couple differences you mentioned makes me wonder if maybe I should pick it up. I've run across it probably half a dozen times in record stores but put it down because I wanted to hold out for Per Un Amico, hard as that is to find. ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 15:41
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Nice to see such enthusiasm for this thread! Though personally I've fluctuated in using 4.11 to 4.25 to define a "minor masterpiece" and between 3.89 and 4.11 for "near-masterpieces," I've always thought that the standard criterion for this topic was a 4.0 SQL average per album! So, to see/hear a 3.50 album being called a "masterpiece" is, to me, like calling the runner/swimmer who doesn't make it out of the preliminary rounds an "Olympic medalist"! Let's get back to reality here, folks. Even a 3.99 average SQL does not connote a consensus "masterpiece"! How many bands here in the PA database can say that they've achieved a 4.0 average, for five studio albums, in a row, during their career? NOT MANY! These are the superstars of progressive rock music, the standard setters. ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: projeKct
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 15:43
You really should give Photos of Ghosts a try. You can listen to it https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mCKgW_g17FsC0D1Ujgq7rf8ZDZwTtVnSw" rel="nofollow - here . Then, if you like it, I recommend you to buy the 2010 Esoteric remaster, with 6 bonus tracks!
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Posted By: projeKct
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 16:11
I get your point (I'm a math teacher) but I think the OP wanted to know about our own perception/ratings and not about the PA community perception/ratings. For example, in my list (a few posts above) I named bands with consecutive 4- or 5-stars ratings... for me!
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 16:17
tis true. Don't ask me why. The only obvious thing is the end of Way Of Life, which I do want to conclude in some actual way. But other than that...tt just suffers something for me. That little magic spark I don't feel like I do on the rest of that 8. But I still like the album, its just given the criteria of the thread I can't honestly say they fit five in a row for my taste. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 16:18
This is how I interpreted the question as well. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 16:42
For me the game isn't as interesting to play with a 4.00 cutoff, because of what you said. There just aren't very many bands at all which pass that mark. I figured 3.5 is still pretty high marks. Not masterpiece, no, but far enough above average to constitute a member of a great streak. ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: MFP
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 17:17
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Some favourites not mention yet: Amon Duul II Phallus Dei Yeti Tanz Der Lemminge Carnival in Babylon (the weakest album of this bunch, still great music) Wolf City Anekdoten Vemod Nucleus From Within Gravity A Time of Day (the weakest album of this bunch, still great music) Until All the Ghosts Are Gone |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 17:28
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I would have brought Can up here, except Soundtracks isn't necessarily great (with the exception of "Mother Sky"). Apart from that, there's a string of excellent albums from Monster Movie to Future Days. |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 18:33
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Amon Duul II is a great call. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: projeKct
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 18:36
I almost included them in my list, but Gravity is not "great" IMO... only "very good"
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 18:40
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Cardiacs Seaside - 4.15 Little Man - 4.29 On Land - 4.36 Heaven Born - 3.99 Sing To God - 4.29 ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 18:43
That VDGG run is definitive ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 20:00
| There are so many bands that I really love that wouln't pass this test for me, but then I can be a little picky about the songs that I choose to love and add to my lists. Perhaps the only one that would pass this test would be Pink Floyd, and maybe Rick Wakeman. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 22:15
Hi, TD and KS without a doubt. Ange is excellent even further with its material and presentation on the albums. PFM is deserving of the mention and has been mentioned. BANCO del Mutuo Soccorso deserves a mention. Amon Duul 2 is also a very strong candidate for the list. Already mentioned. Djam Karet is a definite for the list.
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Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 23:18
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Happily my beloved favorite band, Queen, pass the test based on PA ratings. Queen ~ 3.66 Queen II ~ 4.36 Sheer Heart Attack ~ 3.98 A Night At The Opera ~ 4.30 A Day At The Races ~ 3.78 Of course the far less prog and far more rock and roll News Of The World doesn't make the cut here, but as I'm a Queen fan before I'm a prog fan I'd say News qualifies as the last in their unstoppable 70s run to at least equal their debut. I love their whole discography, but Jazz lacks focus, The Game has loose ends on side 2, Flash Gordon lacks songs (for obvious reasons), Hot Space is what it is, and only by The Works do things start looking up again, building their way back towards the top to Innuendo.
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Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: August 18 2021 at 23:38
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Oh no! David Bowie doesn't pass by his PA scores! This is actually a bit shocking to me, not because Bowie was some giant of progressive rock, but because he was the quintessential shapeshifting "looking forward" guy, and what's not progressive about that, even if he didn't really do much "prog" in the traditional sense. Anyway man people will mention his entire 70s run as one of the greatest of all time, but there are a couple of low rated albums in there that just keep him away from five albums in a row over 3.5. Here's where he gets the closest: The Man Who Sold The World ~ 4.02 Hunky Dory ~ 4.19 The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars ~ 4.26 Aladdin Sane ~ 3.84 His Ziggy years basically. He was untouchable then and those albums remain one of his greatest achievements. However, they don't total five, and here's why. Space Oddity doesn't quite reach 3.5 with a score of 3.34, and though Diamond Dogs does pass the 3.5 mark (barely, at 3.60), it is unfortunately preceded by Pin-Ups the covers album! Pin-Ups has only 3.04 stars to its name, and had it been released just a year later wouldn't factor into this discussion. However it does sit where it sits. If you choose not to count it, I can see your point, but the technicalities will not agree with you. Nevertheless, Bowie can't go on to have an even longer run without it, as Young Americans (ever the black sheep of his 70s releases) only scores 2.83! I agree it's his least compelling, but I don't think it's that low, but that's just my personal take. "But wait!" you say, "what about the Thin White Duke and the Berlin Trilogy and Scary Monsters? That makes five right?" It just almost does, and in my personal taste it absolutely passes with flying shades of orange, black, and white. However, there's one little problem with the PA ratings: Lodger. Station To Station ~ 4.03 Low ~ 4.09 "Heroes" ~ 4.05 Lodger ~ 3.48 Scary Monsters ~ 4.15 Perhaps Bowies most oft forgotten classic album, Lodger seems to be the PA critics choice for the least compelling of this period, and what a strong period it is! Everything else here passes the test even with a 4.0 cutoff, that's not easy! Bowie was pushing boundaries and making great art in new ways on every one of these five albums, but that second to last one just didn't work so well for many people. Is it the lack of an ambient instrumental suite? Has the songwriting gotten too predictable? Is the band not as good? We may never know. But anyway it would've been nice to see Bowie score two 5 album runs in the 70s, yet both have been thwarted. His later work has more frequent ups and downs score wise, though if Hours and Reality were regarded just a few tenths of points more kindly he'd have a good sendoff run of five from Hours to Blackstar. I suppose that's the danger of constantly changing your approach. It's hard to know what will work and what won't. ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: August 19 2021 at 01:44
| Zappa. Fight me. I love him. Pick most sets of five for me. Even more of we include live and posthumous. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 19 2021 at 02:00
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Genesis. They stretch to 7 great albums in a row: Trespass to Wind & Wuthering. Personally I would stretch that to And then there were three too, but I'll be reasonable.. King Crimson - From ITCOTCK - Red (again more than five) Rush - 2112 - Moving Pictures Queen - Queen 1 - DATR Moody Blues - The great seven album run from TDOFP - Seventh Sojourn VDGG - The least we can do - Still Life XTC - Drums & Wires to Big Express (and way beyond..) ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: August 19 2021 at 02:49
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XTC is a great call - not a duff album from Drums & Wires onwards. I'm going to throw in Pendragon - 8 albums from Window of Life to Love Over Fear, pick any 5 from them.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 19 2021 at 04:40
I'll go along with that list and up the ante by adding Prologue and Live at Carnegie Hall to make it a solid run of seven 5-star albums in a row.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 19 2021 at 04:46
Totally agree on both 7-album runs.
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Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: August 19 2021 at 04:55
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I was thinking about making a poll on this just yesterday! I will get back with it maybe today.
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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: August 19 2021 at 08:08
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Deerhoof Ignore the PA ratings because this band is sickening!!! My ratings are way more accurate. From 2002-2012 they were the best band around... Reveille (2002) 8/10 Apple O' (2003) 10/10 Milk Man (2004) 10/10 The Runners Four (2005) 9/10 Friend Opportunity (2007) 10/10 Offend Maggie (2008) 10/10 Deerhoof Vs. Evil (2011) 8/10 Breakup Song (2012) 9/10 ------------- The Prog Corner |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 19 2021 at 09:12
Hi, It is always an issue with me ... FZ deserves a lot better than he has gotten from today's audience, but it's difficult as long as we treat all the music into "genres" and do not look at it for its musicality and composition, which FZ would win hands down over most bands anyway ... specially when he started it way before most people listening to radio ever knew about anything else ... and while he was not a huge seller, he was already a fairly good seller in Southern California, and very well known and respected. Forward 50 years, and we think some of the metal stuff is great music, when it's (not always but often) simply loud and making it look like it is musical, when most are just repetition of themes and an even louder solo on the guitar. Maybe one day that guitar will add to the music instead of a solo, no? I look at it as we are not very good at looking at the history of music and its players ... we always seem to compare to what things are like now, and somehow my imagination only sees today's stuff as good and yesterday's stuff as not even worth listening to. It's just strange, making me think that some folks are not into music ... just into the stuff they like. I may not like/enjoy Brahms, but for crying out loud ... he is listed in the music annals for a reason, and it wasn't "metal" or "loudness". ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: August 19 2021 at 10:59
Agreed , there are a lot of 5 album runs you could do for Frank. If I were to pick I would probably go with these. ( Studio Albums only) Waka/ Jawaka The Grand Wazoo Over- Nite Sensation Apostrophe' One Size Fits All |
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: August 19 2021 at 12:00
No need to go on an anti-metal tirade about how it's just loud and isn't music. Some of us like both metal and Zappa. They both qualify. Zappa's underrated and probably always will be, and he definitely belongs on this list. So are a lot of metal bands. ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 19 2021 at 12:04
I like some Pendragon, but some of their later offerings are inconsistent. I can't see them having five in a row, let alone eight. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 19 2021 at 17:49
Hi, You misunderstand the post. I don't dislike "metal" and have quite a bit of it ... the main issue I have with it is how "metal" is about copy and loudness, and no one else could touch FZ, and even his son's band had a hard time playing it and sounding 2nd rate in a concert series with RTF. If you want music, I doubt that one would select "metal", IN GENERAL. That says nothing about my liking it or not. I was listening to "metal" before you were born, I bet! AND I still have the albums (though some on CD now!). ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: August 19 2021 at 19:40
Well it's pretty difficult to tell that you actually like metal when you seem to be implying it's not music, which is just false. I bet you were listening to it before I was born, good for you. ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: Zeph
Date Posted: August 19 2021 at 23:24
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Wobbler: Hinterland - 3.82 Afterglow - 3.85 Rites at Dawn - 4.00 From Silence to Somewhere - 4.37 Dwellers of The Deep - 4.34 Camel: 3.95 - Camel 4.40 - Mirage 4.30 - The Snow Goose 4.39 - Moonmadness 3.64 - Rain Dances If you don't count the Jordsjø/Breidablik album. Jordsjø: 4.08 - Jordsjø 3.86 - Jordsjø II 4.01 - Jord 4.07 - Nattfiolen 3.92 - Pastoralia Karmakanic: 3.61 - Entering the Spectra 3.74 - Wheel of Life 4.06 - Who's the Boss in the Factory? 3.62 - In a Perfect World 3.94 - Dot Opeth has a very impressive catalogue. They got 12 out of 13 consecutive albums over 3.72. The best period: 4.28 - Still Life 4.23 - Blackwater Park 3.79 - Deliverance 3.98 - Damnation 4.24 - Ghost Reveries Gazpacho delivered 8 consecutive albums over 3.75. The best: 4.12 - Night 4.05 - Tick Tock 3.79 - Missa Atropos 4.03 - March of Ghosts 3.85 - Demon Riverside has released seven studio albums and all are at least 3.79, with six of them reaching 4: 4.19 - Out of Myself 4.23 - Second Life Syndrome 3.79 - Rapid Eye Movement 4.21 - Anno Domini High Definition 4.06 - Shrine of New Generation Slaves Caligula's Horse: 3.91 - Moments from Ephemeral City 4.08 - The Tide, the Thief & River's End 3.91 - Bloom 3.96 - In Contact 3.64 - Rise Radiant Haken has six consecutive. 4.06 - Aquarius 4.11 - Visions 4.17 - The Mountain 3.94 - Affinity 3.67 - Vector Phideaux nearly makes it with four consequtive albums past 4, but both ends break the line. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: August 20 2021 at 02:45
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The Dear Hunter Act I: The Lake South, The River North (4.12) Act II: The Meaning Of, And All Things Regarding Ms. Leading (4.04) Act III: Life And Death (4.07) The Color Spectrum (3.85) Migrant (3.76) Act IV: Rebirth In Reprise (4.09) Act V: Hymns With The Devil In Confessional (4.07) |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 21 2021 at 03:26
| There is not 5 album test , it's not a thing. Complete and utter nonsense. Most bands just churn out a variation of the same idea endlessly. What on earth does that prove?! |
Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: August 21 2021 at 03:32
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May I add these: -Between the Buried and Me: from 'Colors' (2007) up to 'Colors II' (2021); this makes a streak of six -The Dillinger Escape Plan: from 'Calculating Infinity' (1999) to 'Dissociation' (2016); six albums -Mastodon: from 'Remission' (2002) to 'The Hunter' (2011); five albums
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Posted By: Zeph
Date Posted: August 21 2021 at 04:46
It's just for fun. The "test" is either what OP wrote, which is highly individual, or something like was suggested about having a PA rating limit. Many like variations of the same ideas. This is not a "test" about originality or being able to change the sound.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 21 2021 at 07:30
Hi, And TO ME, that is the difference between "progressive" and just another copy. It only proves, we could say, that folks might not have any idea about all these other bands anyway. Or their work, and because of their current tastes the ability to actually SIT and appreciate one of the older bands listed that had more difficult and different material (other than just one or two stupid scales or notes for DD to find !!! ). In some ways that's another issue ... you listen to Banco for 5 minutes and there is no metal, and some folks are done listening to Banco as not exciting or interesting. No thrashing! No screams! No showing off that I'm a great guitar player because I'm loud! Ohhh ... forgot one ... No blue guitar! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 22 2021 at 03:25
| to clarify the OP was suggesting a Test and assuming it's inherent importance. I believe consistency is overrated , and why I think King Crimson were so important than ELP, Yes or Genesis . They had variation of ideas much more so than those bands and perhaps even more importantly influenced contemporary artists and bands. That's a more real test imo. |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: August 22 2021 at 07:32
The test isn't about consistency of ideas, it's about consistency of quality. And King Crimson, in spite of their eclecticism, do have eight consecutive albums above 3.8. ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: August 22 2021 at 11:06
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Guess i'll cover the world of heavy prog and metal since many artists have not been mentioned yet According to me, not PA! Anekdoten Vemod to Until All The Ghosts Are Gone Between The Buried And Me The Silent Circus to Colors II Borknagar Debut to Empiricism Buckethead Bucketheadland to Somewhere Over The Slaughthouse Probably more but too much to figure out Bumblefoot / Ron Thal The Adventures of Bumblefoot to Abnormal Coroner Punishment For Decadence to Coroner Death Scream Bloody Gore to The Sound of Perseverance Deathspell Omega Si Monumentum Requires, Circumspice to The Furnaces of Palingenesia Devil Doll The Girl Who Was... Death to Dies Irae Enslaved Vikingligr Veldi to Utgard Fates Warning The Spectre Within to Parallels Gojira Terra Incognita to Fortitude Gorguts The Erosion of Sanity to Pleiades' Dust Gorod Neurotripsicks to Æthra Haken Aquarius to Virus Ihsahn The Adversary to Amr Intronaut Void to Fluid Existential Inversions Isis Celestial to Wavering Radiant Leprous Aeolia to Aphelion Marty Friedman Dragon's Kiss to Music For Speeding Mastodon Remission to The Hunter Meshuggah Destroy Erase Imrpove to The Violent Sleep Of Reason Moonsorrow Suden Uni to Jumalten Aika My Dying Bride The Light At The End Of The World to For Lies I Sire Neurosis Souls At Zero to Given To The Rising Ocean, The Fluxion to Panerozoic II Opeth Orchid to In Cauda Venenum Pain of Salvation Entropia to Be Porcupine Tree On The Sunday Of Life to Fear Of A Blank Planet Psychotic Waltz A Social Grace to The God Shaped Void Queensryche Debut EP to Promised Land Rhapsody (of Fire) Legendary Tales to The Eighth Mountain Rush Debut to Grace Under Pressure Shadow Gallery Carved In Stone to Digital Ghosts Sigh Infidel Art to Heir To Despair Symphony X The Divine Wings of Tragedy to Underworld Therion Theli to Gothic Kabbalah Thy Catalfalque Sublunary Tragedies to Vadak That's all i can think of at the moment!
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: August 22 2021 at 11:28
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In my opinion, a better way to determine a band's overall quality would be to average out their ratings across their entire discography. Why shouldn't bands be penalized for releasing crap during the tail end of their career? For each album, multiply the rating by number of seconds giving each album a point total. Add the points and seconds for each album, then divide the total points by the total seconds. Perhaps someone with an interest in statistics and more time than myself might have some fun with this? ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: August 22 2021 at 16:41
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Strawbs with "From the Witchwood" thru "Ghosts" managed 5 straight great albums. "Bursting at the Seams" is the middle one and it may not be a prog fan favourite but it certainly has a lot of fans outside of prog, with allmusic saying its their best album. If you add in the fine Dave Cousins solo album released in the midst of all that, you have 6 different albums of high quality. That they sound so different is striking given that few singers could be mistaken for Dave Cousins. I might even add the previous studio album "Dragonfly" Eloy from 1976 to 1982 (Dawn thru Time to Turn)...I'm not crazy about "Silent Cries" but many rate it very highly) Moodys from DOFP thru Seventh Sonjourn even though I don't like "On the Threshold" much Camel - Mirage to Breathless. another example of a group that Progressed. I would argue that you could add I can see your House and Nude to that Le Orme from Uomo thru Florian.. I myself don't like Contrapunti but many do. also not content to do the same album over and over Renaissance - Ashes thru A Song for all seasons. some would argue it started one album before with Prologue Anyone's Daughter - Adonis thru Neue Sterne...allowing for the live "Piktors Verwandlungen" (since there was no studio version of this piece) which many regard as their best though it isn't a personal favourite of mine. And they did this albuost entirely in the 1980s Steeleye Span hit their stride with "Below the Salt" and had a more than solid run thru "Rocket Cottage" (6 albums) Mike Oldfield - I don't quite rate Hergest Ridge and Incantations as top shelf but many do, which makes Tubular Bells thru Five Miles out a run of 7. Clannad certainly has 5 excellent albums or more in there, but with a few interruptions like the "just good" "Cran Ull" and "Legend", spanning their debut thru Macalla (8 albums) in non prog realms, I could add groups like Runrig, Oysterband, Newer neo folk groups Corde Oblique and Sangre de Muerdago have both gone on enviable runs I'm sure I am missing many
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