Roxy Music: For Your Pleasure
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Topic: Roxy Music: For Your Pleasure
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Subject: Roxy Music: For Your Pleasure
Date Posted: March 06 2021 at 09:23
Viva! On the Manifesto today and For Your Pleasure and mine, it's time for a tribute to Roxy Music, especially if you're currently Stranded at home during lockdown and unable to go out and enjoy the Country Life. No matter whether you prefer the raw Flesh & Blood earthiness of their early albums or the ultra-smooth Siren song call of the Avalon album, there's a Roxy Music album to suit almost everyone's tastes, and even if you don't like the music, you can still enjoy their exotic album covers. Anyway, that's enough waffle from me, as it's time now to take The High Road and let the Roxy Music play.  Roxy Music's Albums  1972: Roxy Music - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLBYrILPOhRVpxtMBCb__JT" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLBYrILPOhRVpxtMBCb__JT 1973: For Your Pleasure - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKJw72ZpBgSMUlKmJI4iNY5" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKJw72ZpBgSMUlKmJI4iNY5 1973: Stranded - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLXWlHm-gFHSeyTSignH2Sq" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLXWlHm-gFHSeyTSignH2Sq 1974: Country Life - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpI_5nhxr5jhgi1uoz-BOFs" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpI_5nhxr5jhgi1uoz-BOFs - 1974: Live at Musikladen - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLB3xqKM47HBIXQb6ODVlAR" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLB3xqKM47HBIXQb6ODVlAR 1975: Siren - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpK92t0kzb4uvdLe3Dtyypnb" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpK92t0kzb4uvdLe3Dtyypnb 1976: Viva! - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLbW8vzEzfXCAQRAjrk5Jvr" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLbW8vzEzfXCAQRAjrk5Jvr 1979: Manifesto - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKwonOBMh_hV3bvFdRLvyPQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKwoNOBMh_hV3bvFdRLvyPQ 1979: On the Road - Live at the Apollo - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKEcuqb3hlqBV9ip_x2fuyV" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKEcuqb3hlqBV9ip_x2fuyV 1980: Flesh + Blood - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLLdBmsTRoyb1YZUNS690hG" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLLdBmsTRoyb1YZUNS690hG  1982: Avalon - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpJbDn9HH524KMOYClH3TR8l" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpJbDn9HH524KMOYClH3TR8l 1983: The High Road - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpIZfTAmV4rDudvPOsxvn7kq" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpIZfTAmV4rDudvPOsxvn7kq 2001: Live at the Apollo, London - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpL8yhAztVYK8yn0kNFeiYWr" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpL8yhAztVYK8yn0kNFeiYWr |
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: March 06 2021 at 10:09
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Biased as per my avatar and my lifelong admiration for RM, For Your Pleasure kick started all kinds of new sounds that would go on to higher levels a few years later, namely punk as on Editions of You as well as trance/electronica with the Bogus Man and of course In Every Dream Home a Heartache. The absolute shock among the public when this came out was palpable, as it was a truly progressive release at the time, going way beyond other 'glam' acts at the time like Bolan or Bowie. Experimental yet accessible and romantic with a quirky feel, fuelled by impressive musicianship . Should be much higher rated than 3 stars but so is taste: open to debate.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 06 2021 at 10:10
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One of my favourite bands. Can't believe you've given their first four albums less than four stars!!!
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: March 06 2021 at 10:14
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Yeah, no. Don't agree with your ratings of studio albums in the least. Country Life, For Your Pleasure and Siren, with Eno or Jobson, are their best albums. To give them 3 stars each is to ignore what made Roxy great. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 06 2021 at 11:03
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FYP is a fine lp...and I think the first 5 all deserve 4 stars....maybe not Stranded. It's interesting that Paul gave 4 stars to Flesh and 5 stars to Avalon...when Ferry started to show is true colors as wanting to be more of a romantic crooner and not a rock artist.  ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 06 2021 at 11:35
It's somewhat surprising to be criticised for underrating albums for a change when I'm more often criticised for overrating albums, but I could get used to it. You won't be surprised to hear I prefer Bryan Ferry in romantic crooner mode and I have no less than six of his solo albums as well as the one and only Avalon album, which also contains my favourite Roxy Music song - the title track.
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dr wu23 wrote:Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 06 2021 at 11:51
| I consider them to be more like glam rock or art rock but still a good band. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 06 2021 at 12:00
Me too! I was surprised but also pleased to find a Glam Rock band on ProgArchives. The more the merrier. It'd be nice to see some Hell-Raising albums by the Sweet on PA too.
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: March 06 2021 at 12:37
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My favorite is quite certainly For Your Pleasure, though for many many years it was Stranded and/or Siren. I’ve always loved Avalon, and kind of place it in a class by itself (70s Roxy and 80s Roxy seem to work under differing mission statements). Really though, the only one I can honestly say I don’t care for is Manifesto. Though I should probably give it another go (it’s the only one not in my collection currently). ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 06 2021 at 13:00
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The first 4 are all equally excellent to me. Classic stuff. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 06 2021 at 13:35
Flesh & Blood is ok but those albums for me represent their descent into MOR territory.
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Posted By: AZF
Date Posted: March 06 2021 at 13:58
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One of the best bands from the 70's. One of the best bands from the UK. From the first four albums I'd rank For Your Pleasure Country Life Roxy Music Stranded. These rankings are not to say best to worst. Just preferences. It does get muddy for the band later. But their version of Jealous Guy, especially live, is incredible. Roxy Music at their worst still cooler and deeper than greatest albums from other bands. |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: March 06 2021 at 14:02
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Subjectively speaking, the first four albums are a million time more enjoyable than what followed. I’d probably rank the studio albums: 1. For Your Pleasure 2. Roxy Music 3. Country Life 4. Stranded [small gap] 5. Siren [large gap] 6. Avalon [small gap] 7. Manifesto 8. Flesh + Blood ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: March 06 2021 at 14:17
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The first 2 lps are fantastic.. sadly the impact of the first lp was slightly deadened by Pete Sinfields muddy production but For Your Pleasure is magnificent in terms of composition, inventiveness and the sonics of the production. After that, bit by bit i felt that they became more style over substance and eventually a vehicle almost entirely for Brian Ferry's ego ------------- |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 07 2021 at 04:24
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Viva! is one of the best live albums I've ever heard. What an incredible line up they had at the time with John Wetton on bass and Eddie Jobson on keys and violin. I've always been more a fan of Bryan Ferry's voice than the music itself but they were certainly the best 'art rock/pop' band of the early seventies. Interestingly Davy O'List (formerly The Nice) was in the early incarnation of the band so they had more than a few prog connections.
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: March 07 2021 at 08:48
| I really love this album, especially for the soundscape. My only issue is Bryan Ferry's tendency towards the melodramatic in his vocal performances, but that's a matter of taste really. Otherwise a great album. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 02:35
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I'm surprised you've rated For your Pleasure 3 stars, but Avalon 5 stars. Both great albums of course, but those scores are invariably usually the other way round.. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 02:53
Favourite band of mine also...@Psychedelic Paul is controversial in his album ratings ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 02:58
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I guess it's just his taste, and that's fine. There was a time I would have considered Avalon better than For you Pleasure. It's more 'immediate' Often the best albums have to 'sink in' over time. It often depends when you first hear the albums and in what order. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 03:22
It wouldn't be the first time my album ratings have been controversial, and it probably won't be the last.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 06:10
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I only like For Your Pleasure (because Eno & Manzanera), the rest being too pop for my tastes (and am not a fan of B Ferry - both as a tyrant leader and crooner voice). Even their debut holds nothing for me. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 10:43
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I have always thought Country Life and Siren to be their peak lp's.....both have a few scorching proggy rock numbers like 'Thrill of It All' on Life and 'Both Ends Burning' from Siren...and some clever quirky ones as well. Those two are not rated as high as the first two which puzzles me. But the first 5 are all solid lp's if you like Roxy to begin with. Avalon for me is an oddity in that it really signals the true beginning of Ferry's solo career in many ways. It's a good lp but it's not the Roxy of old. Even with Flesh and Blood (and Manifesto) with all the side players it started his run towards being a solo rock crooner. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 10:49
Agreed. Country Life is their best, I believe. The violin by Jobson is stellar. The only knock against Siren is that I get a Pavlovian need to vomit every time I hear "Love is the Drug." ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 12:34
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Hi, I like all the albums, and can not say which is best, but I suppose COUNTRY LIFE might be the better of all the albums ... I keep hearing "Out of the Blue" and "The Thrill of It all" ... in my head ... ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 12:58
Don’t like Roxy  Cheesy album covers  ------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 14:02
I like the music And the album covers, including Siren, which features Bryan Ferry's girlfriend at the time and Mick Jagger's future wife, Jerry Hall.
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 16:17
In my opinion, your ratings aren't controversial. Most of the time you prefer the more pop and commercial albums, that is, easy to listen, compared to the progressive standards of the seventies. For example, Roxy Music, who already do art-rock more than progressive, that is, they mix pop and rock with a decadent, dandy aesthetic, are considered progressive especially for their first three albums, which you don't like very much. You prefer newer, more commercial albums, for which they wouldn't be considered progressive. Nothing wrong with that, sometimes certain groups are better at simpler things. As far as Roxy Music is concerned, I consider their first two albums to be clearly superior to all the others (Stranded and Country Life are still excellent). The debut album, in my opinion, is a real masterpiece of progressive rock. But I can understand that you like music that is easier to listen to. For example, I appreciate but I am not a big fan of Yes, I think that 90125, art-pop album, is one of the things that came out best for them, a small masterpiece of its kind. Few true Yes fans think that, I know. I'm not saying it's my favorite, I prefer Relayer and Close to the Edge, but not by much. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Spaciousmind
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 16:51
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My preference for Roxy Music was always in the order of release with each one after the first two becoming more more about Bryan Ferry then the Band and less interesting other then the covers which used to have my parents roll their eyes when they saw them on the table while I was listening to them. I also do think that the first one was a classic and very different to everything else that existed in 1972. Bryan Ferry was already planning his solo carrier by releasing his first solo album shortly before the release of Roxy's third album Stranded. After the high hopes that were created by the first two albums I do remember feeling a little disappointed after excitedly bringing home Stranded and putting it on for the first time.
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 17:29
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I personally find the first two Roxy Music albums very easy to listen to... |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 18:03
Kind of ironic that some see RM as pop when they were really not that popular, certainly not in the USA until Avalon showed up. But when Roxy emerged with its debut, the British masses were completely knocked for a loop as it was visual, sonic and certainly mesmerizing , as the old videos may show. Both sides of RM were pushing the envelope, with a HUGE amount of influence among many non-prog bands: the obvious like Duran Duran, Japan, Icehouse, OMD, the Cars, Human League, Ultravox, Gary Numan, The Sex Pistols, The Fixx and countless more etc....Regardless of taste, it must be said that their music has always been original, with truly great musicians and set a certain standard of quality. As for their album covers, one was banned from this site as it was my previous avatar. How is that for rebel rebel.....? ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 18:08
Listen to this man he was one of their first fans back in the day. Amazing band! ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: March 08 2021 at 18:11
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