Transatlantic Appreciation Thread
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Topic: Transatlantic Appreciation Thread
Posted By: Fredholmes
Subject: Transatlantic Appreciation Thread
Date Posted: February 09 2021 at 13:09
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So it sounds like the absolute universe is a rare release that actually lives up to the hype that preceded it. Any other thoughts or comments on the release. |
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: February 09 2021 at 13:15
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I've only listened to the double disc edition. I'm amazed by how much Roine there is on it! That guy's songwriting and vocal work are always top shelf! Oh, and I just got an email from recordstore.uk that my preorder had been dispatched! I'm super excitebike! My fave song is "Lonesome Rebel" ATM I think. But that's gonna change after a few spins probably. ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: Fredholmes
Date Posted: February 09 2021 at 13:18
| I've heard the breath of life once and am listening to Forevermore now. It's really good. Blueray when I get an hour or two in front of the tele and Surround sound system. |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: February 09 2021 at 13:44
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Listened to it a couple of times now. Deeply impressed by the double cd, which I think is easily their best since the debut. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: February 09 2021 at 14:23
| "The Absolute Universe" is amazing. My fave Transatlantic. Just one thing, why does Neal look so pissed off in all his photos for this release? |
Posted By: Fredholmes
Date Posted: February 09 2021 at 15:07
| It's his serious look. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: February 09 2021 at 16:44
Poker face.........My copy is still stuck in Atlanta according to Radiant Records, Neal Morse emails  . Hopefully see it next week but I doubt it.-------------   
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Grumpyprogfan wrote:Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 02:35
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I've got both editions and still ploughing my way through them - they're competing for listening time with Mr Wilson and Lifesigns at the moment. Initial listens indicate they're both pretty good but need more time.
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 04:54
| So far what I hear on youtube, I like very much. |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 06:57
Which version have you been listening to? I tried the first few tracks of the abirdged version but thought it sounded a little samey. I figure its not for me but i'd be willing to give it another stab if Forevermore is the way to go. ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 07:18
| ^I know that TA and Neal are not for you. I read your review of "Whirlwind" live. No big deal. Forevermore won't change your mind. |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 07:49
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Glad to see you back and posting! I received the new Transatlantic album in the mail yesterday. I plan on giving it a first listen today. They are truly a gateway band for me. I was listening to the classic bands at that point and being a Rush fan led me to Dream Theater and of course Pull Me Under on the radio. I had to check out this Transatlantic band because Mike Portnoy was playing on it. I was blown away. Of course that meant I had to check out these strange new bands (to me) called Spock's Beard, The Flower Kings, and Marillion...and of course, the rest as they say, is history. ------------- 
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 07:59
I do like a lot of Spock's Beard and I enjoyed the Similtude of a Dream. I'd like to at least give it one more shot since TFKs Islands was my favorite release of last year. Also glad to see you're back, was just wondering what had happened to you the other day as well. ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 08:14
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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 08:32
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I'm loving it. Is it as good as SMPT:e or Bridge Across Forever? Maybe not but I like it a lot more than The Whirlwind or Kaleidoscope. Listened to both versions a bunch of times now and I can't decide which I prefer... My Ultimate Edition is stuck in Atlanta. Radiant has apologized and sent us a free link to Neal's streaming service to tide us over!!! Still I'm very pleased I ordered it as it is now SOLD OUT!!! $100 well spent. ------------- The Prog Corner |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 09:06
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Scott and Doug. Thanks for the kind words. I needed a break. What do y'all think of Pete's bass playing? His tone, growl, and the notes he plays is so so good. He carries this release to a higher level. His signing?? - not so good. But Mike's lead vocal tune smokes. Best I've ever heard him sing. Maybe it's just the shine of this being new to me, but I can't stop listening. And the mix/master courtesy Rich Mouser makes my ears happy. |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 10:51
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Hmm...1st listen was kind of disappointing to be honest. It didn't have the WOW factor of the first couple of albums. Just kind of sounds like another Neal Morse solo album/Neal Morse Band album. Hopefully, future listens will have a better feel for me. I didn't dislike it, but certainly wasn't wowwed either. I also was listening while working so the attention wasn't really where I would want it to be. Here's to future listens! -------------
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 13:08
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^ Hmm I was afraid of that......hoping many listens will be the key. Too many here and on YT reviewers like the album quite a lot. -------------
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 13:12
I love Pete's playing in everything he does with Marillion, TA and Edison's Children. His tone is excellent and always thick and beefy, right up front....where it should be. I wish DT would take notice and bring John Myung up to par, but they always mix him too low and back, shameful! Really hoping my version is done well mix/master wise, Kaleidoscope was not very good sound wise, too compressed and not very good dynamics. Rich can be hit and miss..... -------------
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 14:17
 "Hey Neal, it's me, god. I'm requesting that you write another double concept album for me. I just asked Mike Portnoy and he's down"
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 15:49
^ Lyrically, this release does not praise the imaginary one.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 18:05
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: February 10 2021 at 18:26
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God must’ve been pretty pissed about the abridged version ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: February 11 2021 at 10:26
Pete is truly the unsung hero of the album. He's just on fire throughout!!! The singing...not so much!!! But "Looking For The Light" is Mike's best ever vocal turn. ------------- The Prog Corner |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: February 11 2021 at 13:26
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IMHO Pete's singing used to be better back in the day. But on this album it's still ok. ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: February 12 2021 at 15:43
 I took the song Solitude and edited out the "Love Made a Way" sections with Neal's vocals down to 3:54 minutes. Now it sounds way better. xD ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: February 15 2021 at 19:47
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Rainbow Sky - beautiful song with an ELO kind of vibe. ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: February 26 2021 at 04:13
OH YES, BABY! LET'S GO! ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: February 26 2021 at 04:31
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There's an interesting "round table review" on http://www.dprp.net/reviews/2021-016" rel="nofollow - DPRP : five of their reviewers talking about the same album. I listened to the album and I can only - and completely - agree with Jerry van Kooten's take on it (although my rating would be slightly less severe). ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: February 26 2021 at 05:46
I respect Jerry van Kooten's opinion.
HOWEVER, I HAVE THE GOD DARN RIGHTS TO THROW IT TO THE GARBAGE CAN AND ENJOY THE ALBUM. B) It's funny how different people see the same album in completely different ways. xD ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 26 2021 at 06:04
who's Jerry van Kooten and why should I pay attention to him? I haven't listened to the new album yet, but I will try soon enough.
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: February 26 2021 at 15:09
 You definitely have the "darn right" to like that album! I
read DPRP since its beginnings, 25 years ago, and I like it that they
do those round table reviews - when you know a bit the preferences of
the reviewers it is often very informative and instructive. ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: February 26 2021 at 15:24
I read Jerry’s review, and it is extremely well written. I rather like the album, actually, probably their best effort since the amazing debut, but an honest review is always far superior to a sycophantic one. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: March 02 2021 at 07:00
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I just don’t get all the negative vibes about the new albums. The posts of it sounds different from the others, it is a stupendous slab of PROGRESSIVE ROCK !!! ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: March 14 2021 at 21:14
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Have you seen this video? Do you agree with what they're saying? ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: March 15 2021 at 00:26
Interesting ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: AlanB
Date Posted: March 15 2021 at 09:17
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I have the Forevermore version and I love it. This and The Whirlwind I would say are my favourite TA albums, though parts of the first album are amazing too. All Of The Above is one of my favourite prog epics, and I love We All Need Some Light. I find the second album a bit too heavy in places for my tastes, but the title track is beautiful. Kaleidoscope was a bit disappointing after The Whirlwind but The Absolute Universe is a definite return to form. I would agree with many of the comments above, Mike's singing on Looking For The Light is his best ever, Rainbow Sky is a brilliant song, and Pete's bass on The Darkness In The Light is amazing. I also like the songs that Roine sings, many of them have a strong Flower Kings vibe to them. I've listened to the abridged version once (on Spotify) and I wasn't particularly impressed. Maybe I need to listen again.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 15 2021 at 10:07
That guy needs to take some medicine or go use that toilet, can't handle all that moving back and forth. There are tons of reviews out now. Having spun the album several times, it has really shown me a return to what I think of with Transatlantic which is SMPTe and The Whirlwind. I have Forevermore (Extended Version) and am really happy with the outcome. -------------
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: March 15 2021 at 10:22
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^^^ haha yeah I didn't want to say anything cause there could be some underlying cause to that, but man that got annoying after about 3 seconds. As for the actual topic, I made my thoughts pretty clear in my review how I felt about the different versions ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: March 16 2021 at 07:42
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I really do see value in both. They have different vibes. Forevermore is very much like The Flower Kings' Islands and The Breath Of Life is similar to Neal's Sola Gratia. And I preferred Sola Gratia so I am leaning into the shorter version lately. But then I miss "Bully" and "Rainbow Sky." And I'm back into Forevermore. First World problems...
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 28 2021 at 01:45
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I listened to Neal Morse's demo version of The Absolute Universe (the Big One) and I've noticed something funny that was left intact in the final version. xD At the very end of the song "Bully" (2:07 timestamp) deep in the background, you can hear a voice saying "let's put some sound effects in here". xD ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: July 27 2021 at 22:49
I've now read all the reviews in the PA reviews section. I get a little miffed when people complain about the perceived lack of originality in some of the songs. Do people remember the first one. It featured a 20 minute cover song of a Procol Harum song.
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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: July 29 2021 at 07:33
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People who don't like Transatlantic are obviously missing out and we should feel sorry for them. Maybe there's a concerto for bassoon and glockenspiel out there more up their alley - I'll stick with Progressive Rock. (With the emphasis on Rock. Not Metal or Jazz or fake Classical.) ------------- The Prog Corner |
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: August 16 2021 at 00:59
I'd have Absolute Universe up there with some of the very best progressive rock I've listened to and I'm not a particularly great Transatlantic fan. Again I just don't get the criticism of the new album. To each his own I guess.
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: August 16 2021 at 03:48
You better put a smiley with that, because it sounds quite arrogant, pretentious and pedantic. ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: projeKct
Date Posted: August 16 2021 at 07:53
Well, an abridged version of this discussion would have been cool...
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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: August 16 2021 at 07:58
Oops!!! You are right!!! ------------- The Prog Corner |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: August 16 2021 at 10:08
I love this statement.......  -------------
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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: August 19 2021 at 08:32
Thank you!!! I knew you would understand the sentiment. ------------- The Prog Corner |