Rating abuse??
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Topic: Rating abuse??
Posted By: tempest_77
Subject: Rating abuse??
Date Posted: October 17 2020 at 22:08
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Not entirely sure where to put this, but I noticed that within the past day or so, a ton of albums from the past few years (I've noticed it 2017-2020) that were ranked pretty highly on the PA charts have had a sharp decline in their overall average rating, while most of them only have very few, if any, new ratings. For example, a couple days ago, the album Remedies by Soup had 116 ratings and a 4.12 overall average rating value. Looking now, there's only one additional rating (from me), but even before I adding my rating tonight, it had sunk to 3.97. At first I figure it was just either new reviews or people changing their ratings, but there have been no new reviews on this album, and I've noticed this pattern across enough albums that I figure I should mention it. It also seems to sometimes be targeted at specific artists: for example, I've seen it on multiple different albums by Bjørn Riis, The D Project, and Homunculus Res, to name just a few. I've linked all the ones I have noticed below, but it's entirely possible that there are some which I have missed or haven't noticed: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=54206 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=54251 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=55848 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=54300 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=54893 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=55660 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=54869 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=55869 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=55814 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=55694 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=56720 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=55188 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=54623 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=59192 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=59073 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=56222 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=57379 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=59088 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=57860 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=57532 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=59068 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=56945 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=57935 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=57306 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=56957 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=57705 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=61737 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=61512 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=62952 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=60941 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=61705 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=62495 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=62855 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=61369 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=59184 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=61749 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=63665 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=63358 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64838 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=65030 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69801 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=64775
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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: October 18 2020 at 00:10
No abuse cannot found though. Guess this mystery might be related to M@X's updating this server, but I may be wrong.  ------------- http://www.facebook.com/damoxt7942" rel="nofollow"> 
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tempest_77 wrote:Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: October 18 2020 at 03:00
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I noticed this, with no additional ratings From Silence to Somewhere (even counting Kempokids recent 3 star review), Road of Bones, Hand Cannot Erase quietly dropped down 5-10 spots on the list and had several points knocked off seemingly overnight. ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: tempest_77
Date Posted: October 18 2020 at 18:49
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Hmmmm...another possibility is deleted reviews, though I'm not sure if that has happened anywhere. My only other thought is that for whatever reason the algorithm has changed and that change is affecting some artists/albums more than others, likely due to how many reviews vs ratings they have and whatnot. ------------- I use they/them pronouns (feel free to ask me about this!) Check out my music on https://tempestsounds.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - my bandcamp ! |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 19 2020 at 03:46
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Another possibility is the uncertainty that comes with Query Weighted Ratings, the system that is used to determinate the rating and the ranking. This system, that has been used for quite a few years now, makes the rating somewhat dependent on other ratings in the query result. It seems unlikely that M@X has been busy with adjusting the algorithm recently. ------------- 
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Posted By: tempest_77
Date Posted: October 20 2020 at 15:00
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Yeah, the only thing is that the change is not just in their ranking within the chart, but also their average rating quality even just on their own. ------------- I use they/them pronouns (feel free to ask me about this!) Check out my music on https://tempestsounds.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - my bandcamp ! |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: October 25 2020 at 05:05
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Any update on what happened here? I've noticed a handful of inexplicable rating drops on recent releases. ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 25 2020 at 05:11
can you give some examples, post a link?
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: October 25 2020 at 05:55
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Off the top of my head The Road of Bones, From Silence to Somewhere and Hand. Cannot. Erase. dropped 5-10 places over night with no significant rating changes. Besides the previously linked entries above, In Cauda Venenum also randomly dropped several points, looking on the wayback machine the new Pendragon had a score of 4.26 12 days ago with 272 ratings, now today it's down to 4.19 with 284 ratings. None of these have had added ratings which is why its suspicious and unlikely for ratings to do it. From Silence to Somewhere had a 3 star review a week or so ago but that only dropped it down to 25, but any ratings since then have been 5 stars and it's stilled moved down 5 more spots randomly.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 25 2020 at 06:02
I still don't see the rating abuse
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: October 25 2020 at 06:05
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I don't think it's rating abuse, but more of some kind of error or glitch? ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 25 2020 at 06:17
albums often drop in rating the more ratings they get, that's all.
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: October 25 2020 at 06:32
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Well the problem is the number of ratings never changed on most of these albums, that or they changed by such a small amount, maybe 1-3 ratings that couldn't ever lead to score drops that significant ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: tempest_77
Date Posted: October 25 2020 at 20:44
Yeah, this has been my main point of confusion all along. ------------- I use they/them pronouns (feel free to ask me about this!) Check out my music on https://tempestsounds.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - my bandcamp ! |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: October 29 2020 at 14:47
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I've been watching the insidious climb of all things Kalugin and Modern-Rock Ensemble over the past three or four months. It's kind of humorous, kind of scary in a tampering-with-the-U.S.-democratic-elections kind of way. For example, just look at the latest three ratings (at the bottom of the list) on the 2019 Modern-Rock Ensemble album from "FUTURE_PASSED (Future Passed)," ATOMIC_RELIC (Atomic Relic)," and "KINGCRIMSONKING (King Crimson)" (all accounts established in 2020, none revealing real names, all claiming to be US accounts): all five star ratings. Yet, if you go to their individual accounts, everything looks kosher until you look at the ratings for all of the other albums in competition with Night Dreams & Wishes at the top of the '19 and '20 charts: Tirill, one star; Opeth, one star; Pendragon, one star; Battlestations, one star; The Ocean, one star; Lazuli, on star; Motorpsycho, one star; and five stars for Kalugin/Karfagen and Night Dreams across the board. Aside from favoring the climb I've been watching of Night Dreams, and the way it is favoring all of Antony Kalugin's albums, I'm half expecting it to pave the way for an onslaught for #1 for a new, 2020 Vladimir Goraschenko (Modern-Rock Ensemble) release. It's actually been quite entertaining, quite cleverly done, with the final result that, until some collabs get involved by posting more realistic reviews, I imagine within a week or two the Modern-Rock Ensemble album will be #1 on the 2019 chart with Kalugin's Dragons right behind, and Kalugin's Marshmallow Moondust and Birds of Passage overtaking everything but maybe Wobbler on the 2020 chart (until, of course, the M-R E release that I predict). It'll be interesting to watch! I do not mean to begrudge Antony and Vladimir their success and accolades (they have produced some great music!), but are these albums really Top 100 All-Time Prog albums?
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: October 29 2020 at 15:01
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P.S. RE OP: I don't know if a collaborator's reviews have this much impact, but a week or two ago I had a shift in conscience in which I came to believe that my past ratings had not been true or matched with the PA guidelines: I know I've tended to rate albums with an exuberance of enthusiasm, the words "Essential," "Excellent addition to any prog lover's music collection," and "Good, but not essential" had been weighing on me for some time. When I looked at all of the albums that I had rated with five stars but whose opinion has not remained as high with me (no longer could I consider them "Essential") I went through all of my ratings and adjusted them. Thus, many five star albums were downgraded to four; many albums that I had give four star ratings to I downgraded to three ("good but non-essential"), and I even downgraded a lot of three stars to two ("collectors/fans only"). I just couldn't, in good consciousness, keep upholding some good albums as "excellent" and some excellent albums as "essential." So, perhaps, mea culpa. ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: October 29 2020 at 15:18
This is highly suspicious, only Neo Prog fans/fiends would do this kind of outlandish stuff hahaha. I'm going to listen and give an honest review myself
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Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: October 29 2020 at 15:22
Pretty much the most accurate description of the issue.  Every review/rating impacts the overall... what abuse are we talking about? And another thing (which is even more intriguing): Why does any of this matter?
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: October 29 2020 at 15:57
It was strange cause it seemed appear after the site went offline. Turns out it was just Brufordfreak changing a bunch of his ratings
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 30 2020 at 03:08
Sounds a bit suspicious - no way are the Motorpsycho, Pendrangon and Opeth albums 1 star in anyone's book, unless you're up to something.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 30 2020 at 03:34
those three look suspicious, one of them gave all Nektar albums 5 stars. One gave most Yes albums 5 stars... One of them gave Wish You Were Here 1 star, it's weird, but then again someone just said the other day in a Pink Floyd thread that he thought A Momentary lapse of Reason is a better album than Dark Side of the Moon. Admin/mods need to look in to those three accounts rating and make a decision.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 30 2020 at 05:08
Maybe he had A Momentary Lapse of Reason.
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: October 30 2020 at 05:18
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 30 2020 at 05:43
| Future_Passed has rated most Pendragon albums as 5 stars but Love Over Fear has 1 star. Really? |
Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: October 30 2020 at 17:08
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Looks like they're manipulating ratings of their favourable artists intentionally, with thoughtless ratings for other ones. Quite annoying. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/damoxt7942" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 30 2020 at 17:09
Nuke'em!
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 30 2020 at 19:16
and I nominate a second nuke for those who complain about ratings abuse ...  if this site had listened to me (aka Tsar Bomba) years ago..and just obliterated ratings altogehter.. there would have been no nukes today.. only naked women, loud geetars, cheap dope American craft beer... and good reviewers.. who write about albums.. not rate them ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 31 2020 at 02:17
Is that directed towards me? How lame it is that some users have got nothing to do but go and rate albums just to get the album they like higher in ratings and belittle other albums just to see their favorite albums higher in some top/chart here on PA. Gotta be a great life just worrying about PA ratings. Is that what's going on. Rating abuse here on PA is nothing compared to a couple of other sites. This kind of abuse(rs) deserve the nuke.
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: October 31 2020 at 07:55
I missed that discussion! Something to think about--something I'd never considered. I would miss the lists. (It's just part of the way I'm wired: Lists are everywhere in my life. Got it from my mom, grandfather, and great-grandfather. A long family tradition of list makers.) But the absence of ratings . . . intriguing! ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: November 08 2020 at 09:50
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Two more five stars added to Night Dreams & Wishes in the last three days--one every 36 hours--the ratings average just keeps on rising. It'll be a long haul, but, at this rate, it will over take Resistance in about 30 days--sooner if reviews are also posted. ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: November 08 2020 at 09:58
Pretty obvious rating abuse going on, all it takes is a single one star review bomb to set them back a bit  ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 03:25
That may have been me, although I definitely would never have used the word better, unless I said I liked it better. Objectively, I’m sure DSotM is a better album that AMLoR but subjectively when it comes to which album I prefer, I certainly like AMLoR considerably more than I do DSotM. In fact, there are almost more Pink Floyd albums I like more than DSoTM, than those I don’t. But I would still give DSotM a 4/5 rating on PA, even if it’s only a 2/3 for me personally.... ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 03:29
I don't know who this Christi guy is but i agree with him.
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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 03:39
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Oops! I forgot, you’re not the Messiah - just a very naughty boy.... ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 03:47
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: May 15 2021 at 21:17
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Hmmm... this is rather suspicious. 5 star
sweep for Karfagen and a few other artist and then a 1 star bomb drop
for all of Mira Snelder's albums all tonight just after artist was
added. Oh since i first posted this a few minutes ago, the second album was changed to 2 stars. http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=72995" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=72995
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Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: May 16 2021 at 01:56
It's interesting because Karfagen and Kalugin should have their pages moved to the Regressive Rock Archives.  |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: May 16 2021 at 03:00
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^ I can get behind this. Why can't Karfagen fans handle themselves? Of all the bands you can choose to worship and love dearly, they settle with the most middling and offensively bland modern prog act currently walking the earth. ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: May 16 2021 at 04:04
Let me remind you that it's simply an opinion. ;p ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: May 16 2021 at 05:16
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Of course, but this repeat issue of fans regularly partaking in rating abuse to gouge the progarchives score is really baffling and bizarre to me. Anytime I see one of those Karfagen reviews start with "Antony has done it again...." I immediately don't take it seriously. ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: May 16 2021 at 07:52
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I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Everybody has the right to review/rate an album. ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: May 16 2021 at 19:50
Yeah but some people simply sweep rate an artist without actually listening to all the albums. Not sure what qualifies as rating abuse or not but i definitely don't mind shining a light on it. ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: May 16 2021 at 21:41
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When someone has 95 percent of their ratings at 5 stars, the other 5 percent are 4 star, and suddenly comes along a couple of hours after an artist is added to drop 1 star ratings on them...that's just being a dick. Not sure what perspective that could be seen in any other light.
I don't think it has the scope to constitute abuse. We are generally looking for larger scale 5's and 1's. Whole genres and mammoth discographies. Bringing into focus the reason I would rather review-less ratings not count in the artists score. But that's not for me to decide. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 09 2021 at 19:07
| What about all those high ratings for the first Modern Rock Ensemble album that happened around the same time? It reminds me of what I've seen on amazon. It's hard for me to think these people really like that album and weren't just paid by the band to review it with a high rating especially when some never rated anything before or since. |
Posted By: Progishness
Date Posted: June 10 2021 at 01:44
I'm wondering if the ratings feature should be restricted to maybe Forum Senior Members and higher? I.E. make it an earned privilege, not an automatic right of membership... tho that could be dependent on whether the forum software would allow it.
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: June 10 2021 at 05:52
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Sometimes it comes in strange ways, this user gave two 5 star DT reviews to their two albums in the top 50, while 1 staring every album in close proximity in direct succession: http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=73747 I know there isn't much to work with here, but it's pretty strange ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 10 2021 at 05:59
I don't know if it's abuse but it's definitely strange.
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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: June 10 2021 at 06:08
You noticed that too.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: June 10 2021 at 12:41
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Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: June 10 2021 at 12:43
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: August 29 2021 at 01:22
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I personally think the numeric rating feature should be removed for good, leaving only the review section (which will be text only, no stars). ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: August 29 2021 at 09:48
I like this idea, actually. Not sure if it will catch on with other admins and collabs, but it's something to think about. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: August 29 2021 at 13:21
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People who abuse ratings and reviews should just be de-weighted, if you only know 1 stars and 5 stars for example, like Isaac Peretz. You shouldn't have to do homework to be able to use the site, all of these suggestions will discourage participation and kill the site. ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 11:50
the new Dream Theater album that is supposed to be released in a month or so has already got 8 ratings. 
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: September 29 2021 at 12:03
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Thanks, Cristi. All gone. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: November 28 2022 at 22:12
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Do I look like I killed his dog? http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=73359" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=73359 EDIT: BTW the rating system on PA so fuсked up! It's too easy for a random asshоle to just bomb an album's average rating and give potential listeners the impression the album is utter garbage. >:(
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 29 2022 at 00:25
it is more the a****le's fault in most cases and not the system's. You have to be more specific what is the abuse in his case.
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Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: November 29 2022 at 03:09
Someone did the same to http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11786" rel="nofollow - me :/ The person responsible seems to have been banned since the ratings no longer show up when you check individual ratings, but they're still visible in the albums' overall rating. ------------- https://mirasnelder.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow - Freelance composer, accepting commissions | https://mirasnelder.bandcamp.com/album/altered-acuity" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp page |
Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: November 29 2022 at 07:11
| COLLAGE - Over and Out shows one five stars rating (Release Date: December 2). |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 14 2023 at 12:22
SUMMIThttps://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=8277" rel="nofollow - Seven Impale•Eclectic ProgIt already has ratings, to be released in a couple of weeks. Maybe it would be a good idea not to add albums so soon, that's an invitation for early ratings (and no one knows if it's abuse or that user has an early copy/promotion copy etc). |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 14 2023 at 18:24
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I have deleted the Seven Impale Summit ratings, one of which was from the hugely prolific dannyb. I would rather additions not be added before, say, a day before the official release or add it on the day, and have raised those concerns before. People had concerns such as adding early helps to promote the albums and this site as well as the promo copies thing, and PA not being behind, but I did not tend to share those concerns. What we really great is if the album could be added in advance, and it could be in a list of coming to PA, and then would be scheduled to automatically be added on the day of release. But I guess I'm dreaming when it comes to this less sophisticated site. It feels silly to so often have to delete ratings, and we have done a lot of them, because albums get added early. But I guess free manpower so who cares? ;) ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 14 2023 at 23:16
True, such situations rub ne the wrong way. maybe it's just me. We rarely know if such ratings or early reviews are legit or something shady is happening.
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 14 2023 at 00:24
This is not rating abuse by any means BUT, it seems like @Umbilicalsyllables uses the Progarchives star rating mechanisim the same way as the YouTube likes and dislikes (1 star = 👎 ; 5 stars = 👍) and doesn't yet understand the PA rating conventions. :p This actually made me chuckle a little. xDDDD ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 14 2023 at 00:33
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That would be considered abuse at RYM. At TYM I would reduce the trust rank of the user, since it skews the averages. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 14 2023 at 00:47
| ^^ well, it looks like abuse, so admins should look into this. |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: June 29 2023 at 17:52
| The Chronicles of Father Robin release that comes out in September already has a rating. |
Posted By: newdawnofprog
Date Posted: June 29 2023 at 23:06
| TCOFR box set was released on June 23, and of course it features all 3 albums. Karisma records will start to release the albums one by one starting September 15th. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 30 2023 at 01:32
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Thinking about rating the band 20% lower for having agreed to such a twisted marketing scheme ...
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: June 30 2023 at 02:09
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Posted By: newdawnofprog
Date Posted: June 30 2023 at 02:23
| You can check out their page, they have posted all of the informations about the release dates. Only thing available now is the box set, while other formats of the book 1- digital, CD and vinyl will be released on Karisma in the fall. Cheers. |
Posted By: projeKct
Date Posted: June 30 2023 at 05:48
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^ This is rather confusing. Anyway, I just updated the page. https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81264" rel="nofollow - https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81264
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 25 2024 at 01:11
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This user gives entire discographies either 1 star or 5 five stars. Weird... https://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=74216" rel="nofollow - https://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=74216
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 25 2024 at 09:08
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Yeah he's listened to Swans discography enough to give everything one star ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 25 2024 at 09:32
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^ and ^^ He joined this site on 9/30/2021 and his last visit was on the same day so he just joined, quickly rated those, then left. I will delete them. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 25 2024 at 09:34
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: April 12 2024 at 00:09
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What do you think of this user? Nearly 16,000 ratings and like 99% of them are 5 stars Strangely the stats saw last visit 6/24/2015 yet many ratings for new albums Totally confusing Rating abuse? I doubt this user has really listened to all these given the ratings http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=35622&listreviews=alpha&showall=true#reviews" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=35622&listreviews=alpha&showall=true#reviews  http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3366" rel="nofollow - *SHELS http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=17319" rel="nofollow - Laurentian's Atoll (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3366" rel="nofollow - *SHELS http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=33988" rel="nofollow - Plains Of The Purple Buffalo (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3366" rel="nofollow - *SHELS http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=17318" rel="nofollow - Sea Of The Dying Dhow (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3366" rel="nofollow - *SHELS http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=20104" rel="nofollow - Wingsfortheirsmiles (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6721" rel="nofollow - .O.RANG http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=34821" rel="nofollow - Fields And Waves (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6721" rel="nofollow - .O.RANG http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=34820" rel="nofollow - Herd Of Instinct (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6721" rel="nofollow - .O.RANG http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=34822" rel="nofollow - Spoor EP (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2552" rel="nofollow - 10CC http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=12448" rel="nofollow - ...Meanwhile (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2552" rel="nofollow - 10CC http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=12393" rel="nofollow - 10cc Live in Concert (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2552" rel="nofollow - 10CC http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=12449" rel="nofollow - Alive (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2552" rel="nofollow - 10CC http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=12379" rel="nofollow - Bloody Tourists (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2552" rel="nofollow - 10CC http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=12599" rel="nofollow - Greatest Hits 1972- 1978 (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2552" rel="nofollow - 10CC http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=12361" rel="nofollow - Il Grande Rock (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2552" rel="nofollow - 10CC http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=12401" rel="nofollow - King Biscuit Flower Hour (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2552" rel="nofollow - 10CC http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=12395" rel="nofollow - Live And Let Live (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2552" rel="nofollow - 10CC http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=12381" rel="nofollow - Mirror Mirror (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2552" rel="nofollow - 10CC http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=12400" rel="nofollow - The Very Best of 10cc (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3489" rel="nofollow - 14 BIS http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=17744" rel="nofollow - 14 Bis (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3876" rel="nofollow - 1980 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=19150" rel="nofollow - 1980 (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2436" rel="nofollow - 2112 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=11393" rel="nofollow - Alterando Las Divisiones (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2436" rel="nofollow - 2112 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=37794" rel="nofollow - El Maravilloso Circo De Los Hermanos Lombardi (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2436" rel="nofollow - 2112 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=11395" rel="nofollow - Glory Lies Ahead (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2436" rel="nofollow - 2112 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=11394" rel="nofollow - Intro (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2436" rel="nofollow - 2112 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=65083" rel="nofollow - Nuestro Mejor Fracaso (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10704" rel="nofollow - 22 http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=60940" rel="nofollow - You Are Creating (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4452" rel="nofollow - 25 YARD SCREAMER http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=35284" rel="nofollow - Blacklight (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4452" rel="nofollow - 25 YARD SCREAMER http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=52941" rel="nofollow - Keep Sending Signals (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4452" rel="nofollow - 25 YARD SCREAMER http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=62780" rel="nofollow - Natural Satellite (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4452" rel="nofollow - 25 YARD SCREAMER http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=76813" rel="nofollow - Nemesis (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4452" rel="nofollow - 25 YARD SCREAMER http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=43359" rel="nofollow - Something That Serves to Warn or Remind (rating only) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4452" rel="nofollow - 25 YARD SCREAMER http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=34632" rel="nofollow - Until All Are One (rating only)------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: April 12 2024 at 00:50
I think the date of his last visit applies to a forum visit, not a rating. I've seen this before. Anyway, this guy must be an excessive music lover if he has listened to almost a quarter of PA's entire album content and a minimum average subgenre rating of 4.77.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 12 2024 at 01:51
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^ It's ok to just rate one's favorite releases and not bother with mediocre albums, but I really doubt that one could listen to tens of thousands of releases to end up with that many favorites
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