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Topic: Genesis Appreciation!!!
Posted By: FatherChristmas
Subject: Genesis Appreciation!!!
Date Posted: October 17 2020 at 07:08
Well, why not yet another pointless appreciation thread? Especially for Genesis?
I'll start it off with the great would-be-song...


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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 17 2020 at 07:11

Yea, a genesis thread! Clap What a great idea. Tongue



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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 17 2020 at 07:15
ok, one request
please don't post studio versions songs videos we've all heard most of their albums. 
Live versions are fine I guess. 
Maybe rarities from their Archives are fine, too. 


Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: October 17 2020 at 07:16
We could vote vote on their songs from A to Z.

Nice pick FatherChristmas.


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 17 2020 at 07:19
@Cristi, does that mean we can't post videos of Mamma and Illegal Alien? Cry

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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 17 2020 at 07:20
Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

Well, why not yet another pointless appreciation thread? Especially for Genesis?
I'll start it off with the great would-be-song...
Good song for starters!

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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 17 2020 at 07:22
There are so many Genesis threads in the appreciation section of this site that when you do a search it maxes out without even making it to the original Genesis appreciation thread.  It isn't like they need their own appreciation thread, given that this whole forum is essentially used for that purpose.  

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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 17 2020 at 07:26
Kill joy.

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Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: October 17 2020 at 07:49
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Kill joy.
You said it! (no offense, Rush fan...)
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

 ok, one request
please don't post studio versions songs videos we've all heard most of their albums. 
Live versions are fine I guess. 
Maybe rarities from their Archives are fine, too. 

Ok. I suppose this is allowed? (it's a live medley)
Yet another would-be-song, one of Genesis's many, many live medleys. We could probably do a Top 20 Genesis Live Medley poll. Wink


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 17 2020 at 07:56
Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Kill joy.
You said it! (no offense, Rush fan...)
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

 ok, one request
please don't post studio versions songs videos we've all heard most of their albums. 
Live versions are fine I guess. 
Maybe rarities from their Archives are fine, too. 

Ok. I suppose this is allowed? (it's a live medley)
Yet another would-be-song, one of Genesis's many, many live medleys. We could probably do a Top 20 Genesis Live Medley poll. Wink

well, don't you think it's more or less pointless to post studio versions songs of such a famous band? 
Rarities and live songs I understand. 

You can post a link if you want to, if it helps your post/point of view, etc. Tongue


Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: October 17 2020 at 07:59
^Yes, I agree - everyone knows Supper's Ready, they don't need reminding.
And actually, maybe I could do a poll on Genesis's live medleys - I don't think that's been done before.


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Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: October 17 2020 at 08:02
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

We could vote vote on their songs from A to Z.

Nice pick FatherChristmas.
Thanks - and another thing I don't think has been done before (voting on songs A-Z). Maybe we could do that too, I don't know. Tongue


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 17 2020 at 08:06
Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

^Yes, I agree - everyone knows Supper's Ready, they don't need reminding.
And actually, maybe I could do a poll on Genesis's live medleys - I don't think that's been done before.

how many medleys are there? I think I know three - Three Sides Live, The Way We Walk - The Long Ones Medley and the medley from Love Over Europe, a bit different than the one on Three Sides Live. Confused



Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 17 2020 at 08:42
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

We could vote vote on their songs from A to Z.

 

Ermm


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 17 2020 at 08:44
Excellent suggestions, Christi. Let's post all three!   

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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 17 2020 at 08:59
Hey, is anyone familiar with Hackett's Revisited albums?

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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 17 2020 at 09:01
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Hey, is anyone familiar with Hackett's Revisited albums?
 
Yes, they're both 5-tar albums for me, even at the risk of being accused of overrating them. Smile


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 17 2020 at 09:03
Ok, are the song arrangements the same or did Steve change them up?

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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 17 2020 at 09:16
I'll take that as you don't know. No problem.

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 17 2020 at 09:19
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

I'll take that as you don't know. No problem.

just go and listen for yourself LOL


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 17 2020 at 10:07
I am listening right now. The first album seems to have a lot of variations in arrangements. Some better, some not. Yeah Christi, people have got to get up early in the morning to fool you. 

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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 17 2020 at 10:50
  [/QUOTE] duplicate post.

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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 17 2020 at 11:08
Ohh yay!!! Another Genesis thread! This site needs a GORT to monitor duplicate threads....I'm so happy!

ALL GENESIS is GREAT!!!!!!!!!!! If you slam any era of Genesis or complain about being too pop, you have little appreciation for great music. One of the greatest band lineups ever:
Peter Gabriel
Mike Rutherford
Steve Hackett
Tony Banks
Phil Collins


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 18 2020 at 03:58
Struggling to think of something meaningful to say (okay that never stopped me before lol)

.. they are in my favourite top five band of all time , but actually I would prefer their very obvious massive influence to be de-bunked a bit. We have far too many imitators Wink


Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: October 18 2020 at 04:23
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

^Yes, I agree - everyone knows Supper's Ready, they don't need reminding.
And actually, maybe I could do a poll on Genesis's live medleys - I don't think that's been done before.

how many medleys are there? I think I know three - Three Sides Live, The Way We Walk - The Long Ones Medley and the medley from Love Over Europe, a bit different than the one on Three Sides Live. Confused

When in doubt, go to Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Genesis_medleys
Short answer: There are loads of them. LOL


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Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: October 18 2020 at 04:24
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Struggling to think of something meaningful to say (okay that never stopped me before lol)

.. they are in my favourite top five band of all time , but actually I would prefer their very obvious massive influence to be de-bunked a bit. We have far too many imitators Wink
Thanks for the meaningful statement, Richard. LOL


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Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: October 19 2020 at 04:17
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

I am listening right now. The first album seems to have a lot of variations in arrangements. Some better, some not. Yeah Christi, people have got to get up early in the morning to out think you

He initially seemed to play around with some of the arrangements, especially Firth of Fifth, but having see him live for the last 4 years, they're now pretty faithful and, live, they're brilliant. Nad Sylvan even does a pretty good job of covering the Peter Gabriel vocals, which I personally believe to be mission impossible :-) 


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 19 2020 at 05:14
Originally posted by Ronstein Ronstein wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

I am listening right now. The first album seems to have a lot of variations in arrangements. Some better, some not. Yeah Christi, people have got to get up early in the morning to out think you

He initially seemed to play around with some of the arrangements, especially Firth of Fifth, but having see him live for the last 4 years, they're now pretty faithful and, live, they're brilliant. Nad Sylvan even does a pretty good job of covering the Peter Gabriel vocals, which I personally believe to be mission impossible :-) 
Yes but after listening to them a few times, the newer arrangements actually are good. On Revisited 2, they are more faithful. All in all, good stuff.

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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 19 2020 at 05:15
I hope that post was meaningful enough. Wink

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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 19 2020 at 05:28
Yep, the Hackett albums are excellent, his band are **** hot. Nice to hear the latest one with a live version of Battle of Epping Forest (which I like despite what some people say).

Not to mention a live version of "More Fool Me"!


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 19 2020 at 05:29
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Yep, the Hackett albums are excellent, his band are **** hot. Nice to hear the latest one with a live version of Battle of Epping Forest (which I like despite what some people say).

Not to mention a live version of "More Fool Me"!
Yes, great band!

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Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: October 19 2020 at 10:49
^^ Hackett's live band and albums are really great. They're probably the nearest you can get to a new Genesis record. 
We were talking about Genesis live medleys - here's a Steve Hackett live medley at LA:
^It's a great order, all the songs flow seamlessly into each other.
Just as great, in my opinion, are Steve Hackett's Genesis Revisited albums. The live band are brilliant - featuring a very Gabriel-esque singer.
Supper's Ready, Genesis Revisited:
^Great performance - especially in the battle section.


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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 19 2020 at 11:02
^ Cool. Cool

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Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: October 19 2020 at 11:16
^Never thought Steve H would be described as cool! Wink
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Yep, the Hackett albums are excellent, his band are **** hot. Nice to hear the latest one with a live version of Battle of Epping Forest (which I like despite what some people say).

Not to mention a live version of "More Fool Me"!
Oh yeah, that was quite good. Here's the virtuoso playing it live in Italy in 2019:


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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 19 2020 at 11:43
Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

^Never thought Steve H would be described as cool! Wink
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Yep, the Hackett albums are excellent, his band are **** hot. Nice to hear the latest one with a live version of Battle of Epping Forest (which I like despite what some people say).

Not to mention a live version of "More Fool Me"!
Oh yeah, that was quite good. Here's the virtuoso playing it live in Italy in 2019:
Hmm, methinks they need to play that in a lower key for Nad. It sounds better on the CD.


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 19 2020 at 12:09
See, Gabriel and Collins were better singers than you thought.

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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 19 2020 at 12:34
Now I know why the term "been there done that" was invented.  LOL

Believe it or not I'm still in the process of rebuying Genesis cds. I have about maybe half of them. I just need a few of the later ones(everything in between abacab and calling all stations)and all the live albums except "the way we walk volume one the shorts" and I'll be up to speed. Also, need the box sets.




Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: October 19 2020 at 13:35
There in my top five

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Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: October 20 2020 at 06:37
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

See, Gabriel and Collins were better singers than you thought.

Gabriel has an extraordinary voice. Many vocalists have tried and failed to emulate him, not least Steve Morse!!


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 20 2020 at 06:41
Originally posted by Ronstein Ronstein wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

See, Gabriel and Collins were better singers than you thought.

Gabriel has an extraordinary voice. Many vocalists have tried and failed to emulate him, not least Steve Morse!!

Steve Morse?! The guitarist? 
LOL


Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: October 20 2020 at 06:47
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Ronstein Ronstein wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

See, Gabriel and Collins were better singers than you thought.

Gabriel has an extraordinary voice. Many vocalists have tried and failed to emulate him, not least Steve Morse!!

Steve Morse?! The guitarist? 
LOL

Brain fade, busy day. Neal Morse Ouch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZBaphpcAjE

A bit of a car crash LOL


Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: October 20 2020 at 06:48
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Ronstein Ronstein wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

See, Gabriel and Collins were better singers than you thought.

Gabriel has an extraordinary voice. Many vocalists have tried and failed to emulate him, not least Steve Morse!!

Steve Morse?! The guitarist? 
LOL

Sorry, brain fade. Neal Morse Ouch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZBaphpcAjE

Something of a car crash LOL


Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: October 20 2020 at 06:48
And now it duplicates the post!!


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 20 2020 at 08:23
Originally posted by Ronstein Ronstein wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Ronstein Ronstein wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

See, Gabriel and Collins were better singers than you thought.

Gabriel has an extraordinary voice. Many vocalists have tried and failed to emulate him, not least Steve Morse!!

Steve Morse?! The guitarist? 
LOL

Brain fade, busy day. Neal Morse Ouch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZBaphpcAjE

A bit of a car crash LOL
No problem. I knew what you meant. I recall one poster, years ago, writing about his favorite guitarist Steve Hackman. Gene's brother, I suppose. LOL

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: October 20 2020 at 10:02
Another Genesis thread?.....well, at least it's in the right part of the forum .
Wink




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Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: October 20 2020 at 10:09
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Another Genesis thread?.....well, at least it's in the right part of the forum .
Wink


Nearly put it in JFF. 


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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 21 2020 at 08:36
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Another Genesis thread?.....well, at least it's in the right part of the forum .
Wink

Wrong forum, should be moved to MMA, since Genesis is prog symphonic metal.....like who didn't know that.Clap


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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 21 2020 at 09:15
Hey Jose, I'm still looking for that old abandoned Genesis thread. Can you locate it?

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Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: October 21 2020 at 09:16
^There isn't one. 

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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 21 2020 at 09:23
nah, I remember one that went on for hundreds of pages. or was that Zappa?

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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 21 2020 at 18:13
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

nah, I remember one that went on for hundreds of pages. or was that Zappa?
Hmm, will have to do a search but I doubt that does it. Might have to page scroll starting back many moons ago.
I remember a Zappa thread going on, but was it an Appreciation thread?


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Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: October 21 2020 at 22:55
I like Genesis. I think they're a good band. I think people should listen to Genesis if they haven't heard them before. 

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Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: October 22 2020 at 04:58
^Good that. But to get to the main question I wanted to ask: Which ex-Genesis member did the best solo stuff?  

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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 22 2020 at 05:29
^ Hackett, right after Gabriel. I never listen to the others.

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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 22 2020 at 06:24
Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

^Good that. But to get to the main question I wanted to ask: Which ex-Genesis member did the best solo stuff?  

Probably Gabriel over Hackett (just) but then the former hasn't released any new stuff for ages. 


Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: October 22 2020 at 06:30
Hackett for me, but then I'm a guitarist so I'm probably biased.


Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: October 22 2020 at 07:15
Wow... surprised no Tony Banks. TB is my favourite musician.
Below - one of my favourite TB solo songs. Even a music video.
But what's really shocking is no one said Phil Collins...


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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 22 2020 at 07:28
Phil 

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Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: October 22 2020 at 07:29
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Phil 
COLLINS!!! 


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 22 2020 at 07:30
How do you feel?
I feel Collins. 

EmbarrassedLOL


Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: October 22 2020 at 07:32
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

 How do you feel?
I feel Collins. 


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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 22 2020 at 07:48
The Phil Collins image for today.

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Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: October 22 2020 at 08:08
What is this... the Phil Collins Appreciation thread?

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 22 2020 at 08:19
Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

What is this... the Phil Collins Appreciation thread?

considering his great drumming in both Genesis and Brand X, why not... LOL


Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: October 22 2020 at 08:22
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

What is this... the Phil Collins Appreciation thread?

considering his great drumming in both Genesis and Brand X, why not... LOL
I'll finish the sentence - why not... make one!! LOL
Seriously, I might do that. I wonder what reaction I'd get.


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 22 2020 at 08:25
Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

What is this... the Phil Collins Appreciation thread?

considering his great drumming in both Genesis and Brand X, why not... LOL
I'll finish the sentence - why not... make one!! LOL
Seriously, I might do that. I wonder what reaction I'd get.

LOL
Be specific what we are appreciating Big smileLOL


Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: October 22 2020 at 08:31
[duplicate post... ignore]

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Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: October 22 2020 at 08:32
^Yes, I should be more specific. This is the Genesis Appreciation Thread. So... Genesis live performances. Which was the best? I'd go for this one... Big smile


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Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: October 23 2020 at 16:14

This album is fifty years old today.


Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: October 24 2020 at 04:57
^You're kidding?
Always liked that song. The Knife gets all the credit - but not wrongly though!
The Knife, Genesis Live, remastered:



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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 24 2020 at 05:10
so I guess I am the only one annoyed by studio versions of famous songs. Is it pointless just for me? 


Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: October 24 2020 at 05:14
^


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 24 2020 at 05:19


Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: October 24 2020 at 05:25
TONY BANKS - Spitting Image puppet for sale - Man of Spells | TONY BANKS  Discussion - Turn It On Again - A Genesis Forum
This should be the last weird image... otherwise this thread really will be moved to JFF.


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 24 2020 at 05:27
Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

TONY BANKS - Spitting Image puppet for sale - Man of Spells | TONY BANKS  Discussion - Turn It On Again - A Genesis Forum
This should be the last weird image... otherwise this thread really will be moved to JFF.

it's not working, no picture there. 


Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: October 24 2020 at 05:31
Working now?
EDIT: No, it's not letting me. I was trying to post the Tony Banks Spitting Image puppet used in the Land of Confusion video.


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 24 2020 at 05:32
Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

Working now?
Lot # 17 - Tony Banks Puppet - Price Estimate: $400 - $600

nope...



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