Interactive Poll #2 - The Poll Strikes Back
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Topic: Interactive Poll #2 - The Poll Strikes Back
Posted By: TCat
Subject: Interactive Poll #2 - The Poll Strikes Back
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 14:56
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If you participated in the first Interactive Poll, you already know what to do. To those who are new to this, here are the instructions: 1. Post a favorite non-prog video. By non-prog, I mean you should avoid bands that are listed in the Prog Archives. 2. Listen to the tracks everyone else has posted. 3. Keep coming back until there are a total of 15 tracks posted and listen to them all. 4. When there are 15 posts, we will then vote on our top 3 favorite tracks. Don't just default one of your votes to your own submission unless you think it is really the best submission. Everyone is welcome to vote once the voting opens. Please do not vote before there are 15 entries. I will add the entries when they are submitted in the order they come in. This time we will choose from 15. Come join us and have a blast. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow">  |
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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 14:59
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Calexico - "Alone Again Or" This is one of my favorite non-prog bands. I love how this song works up into the style it does....well you'll see fairly quickly. Feel free to dance!
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 15:23
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The Bears - Dave LINK NOT WORKING. Tried... |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 15:59
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
TCat wrote:Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 16:15
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nice.. can't wait to see what you all come up with. Going with a lost classic album of the 70's. Amazing the great stuff that is pretty much lost to time.. brilliant album from start to finish. Smoke them if you get 'em boys...
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 16:17
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Here's some creepy metal stuff. Sometimes bad production adds to the eeriness of a song, as is seen here. I presume this will not be voted (surprise me!), anyway my aim is to scare you.  The guitarist Stephan Forte and keyboard player Kevin Codfert here are known from the progressive metal band Adagio. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 16:29
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OK, here's mine. Phil Ochs "Pleasures of the Harbor," 1967 ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 16:30
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Francesco Guccini - Canzone delle Domande Consuete (Song of the Usual Questions) LYRICS Ancora qui a domandarsi e a far finta di niente Come se il tempo per noi non costasse l'uguale Come se il tempo passato ed il tempo presente Non avessero stessa amarezza di sale. Tu non sai le domande, ma non risponderei Per non strascinare le parole in linguaggio d'azzardo Eri bella, lo so, e che bella che sei Dicon tanto un silenzio e uno sguardo. Se ci sono non so cosa sono e se vuoi Quel che sono o sarei, quel che saro' domani... Non parlare non dire piu' niente se puoi Lascia farlo ai tuoi occhi alle mani. Non andare... vai. Non restare... stai. Non parlare... parlami di te. Tu lo sai, io lo so, quanto vanno disperse Trascinate dai giorni come piena di fiume Tante cose sembrate e credute diverse Come un prato coperto a bitume. Rimanere cosi' annaspare nel niente Custodire i ricordi, carezzare le eta' E' uno stallo o un rifiuto crudele e incosciente Del diritto alla felicita' Se ci sei, cosa sei? Cosa pensi e perché? Non lo so, non lo sai; siamo qui o lontani? Esser tutto, un momento, ma dentro di te. Aver tutto, ma non il domani. Non andare... vai. Non restare... stai. Non parlare... parlami di te. E siamo qui, spogli, in questa stagione che unisce Tutto cio' che sta fermo, tutto cio' che si muove Non so dire se nasce un periodo o finisce Se dal cielo ora piove o non piove Pronto a dire "buongiorno", a rispondere "bene" A sorridere a "salve", dire anch'io "come va?" Non c' vento stasera. Siamo o non siamo assieme? Fuori c'e' ancora una citta' Se c'e' ancora balliamoci dentro stasera Con gli amici cantiamo una nuova canzone... ...tanti anni, e sono qui ad aspettar primavera Tanti anni, ed ancora in pallone Non andare... vai. Non restare... stai. Non parlare... parlami di te. Non andare... vai. Non restare... stai. Non parlare... parlami di ... Noi. TRANSLATION: Still here wondering and pretending nothing As if time didn't cost us the same As if past time and present time They did not have the same bitterness of salt. You don't know the questions, but I wouldn't answer them So as not to drag words in a gambling language You were beautiful, I know, and how beautiful you are A silence and a look say a lot If I am here, I don't know who I am and if you want What I am or would be, what I will be tomorrow ... Don't talk don't say anything if you can Let your eyes do it to your hands. Don't go ... Go. Don't stay ... Stay. Don't talk ... Tell me about yourself. You know, I know, how far they go Dragged by the days as full of river Many things seemed different and believed different Like a bitumen covered lawn. So stay reeling in nothing Guarding memories, caressing the ages It is a cruel and unconscious stalemate or rejection Of the right to happiness If you are here, who are you? What do you think and why? I don't know, you don't know; are we here or far away? Being everything, a moment, but inside you. Having everything, but not tomorrow. Don't go ... Go. Don't stay ... Stay. Don't talk ... Tell me about yourself. And we are here, bare, in this uniting season Everything that stands still, everything that moves I can't say if a period is born or ends If it is raining or not raining from the sky now Ready to say "good morning", to answer "good" To smile "hello", say "how's it going?" There is no wind tonight. Are we or are we not together? There's still a city outside If there is still let's dance inside tonight And sing a new song with our friends ... ... many years, and I'm here waiting for spring Many years, and still mess in my head Don't go ... Go. Don't stay ... Stay. Don't talk ... Tell me about yourself. Don't go ... Go. Don't stay ... Stay. Don't talk ... Tell me about ... Us. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 16:41
| ^ The Francesco Cuccini track is not available to be played back in the U.S. Darn those permissions. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 16:49
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Angelica Garcia - It Don't Hinder Me Indie pop rock singer songwriter based out of Richmond, VA though born and raised in SoCal. Her song "Jicama" made it onto Barack Obama's Favorite Songs of 2019 list. Her current album is one of my favorites this year.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 16:54
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Everything goes, right? As long as it's not on PA... So what about this: György Ligeti:
Études, Book 1: No. 5, Arc-en-cielperformed by Pierre-Laurent Aimard, piano. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 17:01
Really? And this one? ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 17:03
| ^ That one is good to play! |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 17:04
 ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 18:08
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Here's Grumpyprogfan's submission which wouldn't load for him earlier for some reason. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: tigerfeet
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 18:09
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Beth Nielson Chapman - Away Beyond the Blue ------------- I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you. Robin Williams. |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 18:10
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What about this one (it's late 60's stereo pan at its worst, but it's a great song): |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 18:19
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The slots are filling up quickly. Looks like we will take all 15 slots again. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 18:26
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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 18:36
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Is anyone else having trouble with Lewian's video not playing (again it won't play in my country). ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 18:38
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"Alone Again Or" reminds me of the fact that I haven't listened to Love's Forever Changes for ages. A shame really, it's one of the more overlooked albums of the 60's. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 18:41
I listened to the album a couple months back when I put the song on my "my corona" playlist. |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 18:44
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^ good one ;) |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 18:45
One of my fav LP's of all time. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 18:58
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Once again, there are some great submissions. Thanks to everyone. Another 5 and we'll vote, maybe even as early as tomorrow already. Keep checking back. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 20:02
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The Decemberists: The Queen's Rebuke / the Crossing. Shara Worden (Nova) is utterly evil sounding. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 20:23
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I can think of at least 5 songs I could be posting. I'll just have to pick one soon |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 22:04
| Good track by the Decemberists, but they are in the PA database, so they shouldn't be in this poll. |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 22:41
Are they? Well then...never mind. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: May 24 2020 at 22:43
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Earth, Wind & Fire~Zanzibar From their album Head To the Sky (1973) -------------   
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 00:32
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Another one that I have loved for 45 years: Jo Jo Gunne - Take it Easy ------------- 
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 01:27
Hopefully this works - I can't really check whether what I link works everywhere... Different pianist Eriko Mikami, but I don't mind, it's a good version, too. There are quite a number of interpretations around on youtube. Some better some worse, but I don't think any one really ruins it... |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 05:24
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Stephen Malkmus and The Jicks - Real Emotional Trash
------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 05:31
did not really not know that Greg??? Hazards of Love got quite a bit of love, and deservedly so, when it came out. Was quite high up on a lot of our prog album of the year awards lists. As it is it still ranks in my top 10 prog albums of the 2000's ..anyhow.. getting an early start.. and checking out everything selected so far. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 05:33
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A huge favourite of mine: |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 05:36
ok, I made up my mind or I'll go nuts
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 05:44
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quite an eclectic and varied selection i must say... oh.. and you all do what you want.. but on this one and moving forward. Not voting for my own selection.. that vote is pretty much a given for those that selected them. I'm curious about 3 that I (and you) may not have heard before... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 06:02
you almost diddered too long ...just in the nick of time by my count.. looks like you got the last open slot. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 06:16
| for 3 videos, I get a video unavailable, but I bet I can find them elsewhere... |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 06:44
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I'll wait to vote till the choices are filled out but I'll put mine out... 2 standouts .. the first being the hands down no doubt favorite of the group 1) Stephen Malkmus andthe Jicks - Real Emotional Trash 2) Angelica Garcia - It Don't hinder Me the favorite of the rest... had to be the piano piece. That hit a particular musical G spot of mine which normally gets filled with great length and girth by Rach or Grieg when I am really needing it... I did enjoy that but I'll swallow my desire to vote on 'songs' and have a big O with that one. 3) Gyorgy Ligeti - Etudes and all that jazz... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 07:42
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In the same poll Phil Ochs and Francesco Guccini, two of the major communist folksingers-songwriters. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 07:43
We are looking for Billy Bragg... ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 08:18
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the problem with most singer-songwriters is the music is completely secondary to the story so for the third poll.. I whip it out..and bring it with authority.. and bring on a singer-songwriter with a brilliant though depressing story to tell.. that musically is off the charts. And if it doesn't win the poll.. I'll have to reconsider some musical tastes here ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 08:40
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Okay....Posting is closed and voting is open. Remember to vote for 3. It's up to you if you want to vote for your own, but I think it's only fair to say that you should only do it if you truly think it is one of the best three. Thanks to everyone for posting, we got the slots filled quite quickly, and as Micky said, it's quite a variety of selections, and that is what makes this all fun. Excellent choices everyone. Now go vote, and remember, we only accept the popular vote as the winner. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 08:54
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my votes up... and back at you Greg. Have heard Shara's albums.. needless to say after HoL came out we snapped up all the stuff she did. Gpd almighty what a voice... Something from her might be a good selection for the next poll... if you (or Raff) doesn't hit her up on the next. I'll nail her for the 4th go around... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 09:36
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This one was tough as there were some excellent tracks posted.
I finally decided: 1. The Bears - "Dave" Perfect song. Will definately look into these guys a bit more. 2. Ligeti's Etude No. 5 - So many layers that work so well together. I always love it when they post the score so that you can follow along because that helps you see how it is put together better. Dynamics in this one are excellent, the triplets and the natural fade at the end is brilliant. 3. Stephen Malkmus and Jicks - Real Emotional Trash. After the 6 minute mark where it really lets go is the cherry on the top. Love it! Many of the others were also in the running so it was hard to choose. We'll keep voting open through today and tomorrow and then see where we're at then. Even if you didn't get to post a track this time around, you are still welcome to vote. Invite your friends! Thanks again everyone! ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 09:59
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In no order. 1. Angelica Garcia - Funny video, reminds me a bit of Bent Knee. 2. Dan Mandrilla - Love jazz. Groovy song. 3. Beth Nielson Chapman - Great voice and the hypnotic bongos work. TCat - Thanks for the kind words about The Bears. Also check out The Psychodots - same band as The Bears minus Belew. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 11:07
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Lots of great music, I ended up with the Ligeti's Etude piece as my vote. I will also say I've found a few more I want to check into more. Angelica Garcia, Beth Nielson Chapman, The Bears and Stephen Malkmus & Jicks. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 11:07
In my defense, point #1: the album came out in 2009. I didn't stop by till 2011. Point #2, I seldom pay attention to what goes on here for any length of time. The 70s....drugs...short term memory loss...what were we talking about again? ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 11:19
Did you vote 3 times or only once? Everyone gets to vote for 3. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 11:21
The Decemberists have put out some great material. Sorry we couldn't include them in the poll. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 11:54
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 11:57
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You guys are fast! |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 12:02
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^ I blame Raff's coffee this morning... that sh*t will have you ready to rumble right out of the gate. the key to happy marriage I've learned... killer coffee ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 12:05
hah.. at least you have that to blame. I only get to blame premature cranial decrepitude brought on by one too many blows to the head in my bar fighting/bouncing days and with a fair share of self abuse out of a bottle. or it is just getting old... It seems like that album came out just the other day.. and it seems like you have been around forever ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 12:37
Yes, the challenge is to sing political lyrics with a beautiful melody and a worthy arrangement. If you want to be political, you have to do it in a non-direct way, with poetry. I have read from various places Phil Ochs has considered himself a reporter, and Dylan said to him that he was only a journalist, not a musician. I can't dare to judge him, I know him too little. In Italy Guccini and De André have never been reporters or journalists who made music, but the seeds of real poets, and it is no coincidence Guccini is also a writer and a learned linguist. The song I put on by Guccini is certainly not one of his political songs, it shows a love story with her contradictions, her uncertainties. And in my opinion there is a beautiful melody, a very good classical arrangement and a great vocal performance. In fact, a true singer-songwriter must have a philosophical and existential streak before even political, and everyone must know how to transfer his mood into music, I mean melancholy, or desecration or sarcasm or anger, etc. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 12:45
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 12:54
Yes, the song you have chosen got a very beautiful melody and a good classical arrangement. I have listened to two Ochs' albums and I think Ochs was able to write and sings wonderful melodical songs - even if my knowledge is limited. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 12:55
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I'll not vote for my adding, even if I think it is a standout song. If I were the poll/thread creator, I'd ban that option. I've listened to them all. It was generally okay, sometimes fun, and sometimes boring. My choices in order are: 1) Beth Nielson Chapman - Beyond the Blue (Awesome.) 2-) The Charlie Daniels Band - No Place to Go (A little bit too long, but great fun anyway.) 3-) Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks - Real Emotional Trash (Started a little bit bland but went on very very good.) |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 12:59
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One thing is clear, at least those of us playing this game, we listen to a lot of other kinds of music than progressive. Great idea to present these! ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 13:05
| My votes went to Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks, Earth Wind & Fire, and Charlie Daniels Band. A good mix to choose from. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 13:09
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Other impressions: Calexico: mariachi melody, very good arrangement with trumpet CD's Band. Oh, here we are in full jam session, the singer recalls me Steve Winwood, but with an hourse voice. S. Forte: heavy metal and piano solo, very virtuosistic performance. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 13:13
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Angelica Garcia: powerful song, very good vocals (and very sexy girl!) Ligety: minimalistic classical music The Bears: very inspired music, great sound on the guitar Beth Nielsen: wonderful voice and music based on the percussion
------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 13:25
 This time, I relate to this Victorian joke very much, considering the song I shared here.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 13:51
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I did not want to vote for my own choice. Fortunately, there was little need to since this selection contains a lot of good songs (approximately a dozen), no bad ones, and Angelica is pretty. 1. Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks 2. Calexico 3. Beth N.C. Bubbling just under: Frankie GtH and The Bears. -------------
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 14:41
| Thanks for the comments on The Bears. I am surprised that no one mentioned the guitar solo. It was done by Fripp. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 14:44
I mentioned the guitar solo!!!! Look up! ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 14:47
But I haven't voted yet! ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 14:55
yeah.. I'd say the variety on this one topped the first. And while I have you.. great suggestion you had. Loved the song.. and the video as quite adorable. You really got me interested in her and exploring her music. Someone upstream mentioned it and when I was re-listening to her song earlier Raff mentioned the Bent Knee vocal similarity. Once mentioned.. you can really hear it. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 15:11
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and nice to see others take this the same way I did... and vote not for what you suggested (that is a given) but voted what you liked of what others suggested. as the votes themselves are sort of immaterial.. ie.. there are no winners or losers. I'll take starting the next poll in a few days and keep the ball rolling. i suspect I'm not the only one brimming with songs they'd like to suggest (as well hear what others come up with) and the quick fillerup today might have kept others out... the more the merrier. Yeah Nickie... we might hang here at a prog forum.. but suspect I'm not alone that in actuality prog is only my 2nd or 3rd love musically and generally only for the best of it.. for much of it really is not that good. Music is not for the head or the intellect..that is what books are for.. but is about emotions... it for the heart and soul. If not obvious by first couple of choices southern roots music is what I love.. the blues and in particular and has and always will be my favorite. Something I've really taken a interest in exposing Raff to.. and though it might have taken a decade she can dig a Wlllie Nelson gospel album and not run screaming into the night like she was prone to do early on hahah ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 15:20
oh man.. it wasn't that bad.. or even bad at all. Last poll I posted an absolute gem of a classic Carter Family gospel song with an especially fabulous modern interpretation of it.. and it got zero votes before I saved it from the inglorious fate and a bagel it didn't deserve Everyone is bringing their A games and honestly.. I haven't heard a bad song in either poll. though some may connect and others may not.. what is interesting is to see what connects with who. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 15:25
Which is exactly why someone can play something perfectly, yet it can be unmoving. Which is not to say that technique is unimportant, but feeling should be roused in some way by art...and also explains why things move one person and not another. You bring your entire experience to everything you hear along the way, it's all subjective (which I am pretty sure I've espoused elsewhere), or see, for that matter, but ultimately it's that gut feeling that is the most important in music, particularly.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 15:26
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The Savage Rose.....like the early psych sound Stephen Malkmus.....even though indie alt rock has a nice retro feel also Jo Jo Gunne....been a fan from the old days....all hail Spirit. ;) also liked Charlie daniels and EWF. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 16:32
Thanks dude. I find it awesome, but just look at the other tracks, haha. Stephan Forte's song is not in the extreme metal genre, but it is extreme. Next time (if that happens) I'll share something again out of the ordinary, but not extreme. 
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 16:33
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There were several songs I liked but my vote went to "La Canzone delle Domande Consuete" by Francesco Guccini. I was especially touched by the lyrics - very poetic. But I also admire the singer/songwriter style in it (my own music is very much in the singer/sonwriter corner). Other candidates were Beth Nielson Chapman, the Decemberists and Ligeti.
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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 18:02
Get with Lorenzo (jamesbaldwin) about starting the next poll. Since it was his idea, I think he should manage the polls. If he is okay with a "free-for-all", then that's fine, but he might have others that want to run the poll too. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 19:03
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Other impressions: A Girl I Know: sophysticated pop song Zanzibar: funk- jazz-rock fusion, near to be included in PA Take it Easy: very good classic rock Real emotional trash: in this poll, this track is the closest to prog: long, elaborated, with changes of rhythm and mood... interesting song, unpredictable but... something is missing to me just at the emotional level. FGTH:ullallà.... Raff you recall me when I was a teen ager... DMandrilla.... hmmmmm.... ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 19:10
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Ok, my votes: 1) Phil Ochs: Pleasures of the Harbour. Very atmospheric song, close to poetry. Ochs was not just a reporter. 2) CDB: No place to go. Oh yeah, rock jam session with the right vocals. Maybe a little too long in the end but it's all right. 3) The Bears: Dave. For the sound. Close to the top: 4) Calexico 5) Jo Jo Gunne 6) Stephen Malkmus.
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 19:19
Oh yes, you are a connoisseur!  However you can express three preferences. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 19:24
Yeah, I noticed. I went with Beth Nielson Chapman and Ligeti.
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 19:48
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Well, this poll went very quickly, a sign of the enthusiasm of many. But perhaps someone has not yet voted (Lewian?)... Anyway, he can always do it in time. I'm glad that other forumists are eager to open new interactive polls. Mike (Tcat) and I are willing to continue this beautiful experiment, so that it becomes a PA tradition but we are pleased if there are others who want to join us, so we take turns. I would ask you to keep the maximum of 15 songs (not present here in PA) and the two basic rules: - expressing three preferences, making them explicit, writing them as a public message. Let's avoid becoming a poll where you just vote. It's nice to know what you think of others' favorite music. -And the other rule is not to vote for your song. I've noticed that Micky would like to open the next Interactive poll, the no. 3, in few days. Excellent. Is there anyone else who makes himself available to open the Interactive poll no. 4? ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: tigerfeet
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 20:03
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Dan Mandrilla - La Sezatoare This was my #1 pick as it made me move inside with the rhythm - loved the jazzy and brass parts and busy drums and piano/keyboard - Guccini Francesco - La Canzone delle Domande Consuete Twas my #2 pick as it drew in my thoughts and as others mentioned here and though I didn't understand the lyrics the feeling was there. And reading the lyrics after was a bonus Calexico - Alone Again Or It was my #3 pick. Wonderful intro and then into the Spanish flamenco themed rhythm and feel to the song. The subtlety of the brass was sweet. It really is almost a fun pop love song on a hot summers night. Other songs that were close to my top 3 were with Earth Wind & Fire and Charlie Daniels Band AND Angelica Garcia who along with many of these poll artists i never heard before.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 20:34
yeah man.. in my experience and years and years on this forum I've seen lots of good ideas die on the vine and go nowhere. You hit on a great idea here.. if you got the enthusiasm and it seems you do then it let it ride for all you can get out of it. I apprecaite you waiting on me for the last one but you didn't need to .. the polls will be there and with no expiration date for people to listen and chime in if they wish with what they liked. in fact... considered doing the same up in the prog area? with obvious conditions attached. We see all kinds of song selection polls.. and most of them get little play.. because they are user favs and most come here not to explore but endlessly talk about what they like, what they already know. So those polls get little notice and few votes. audience participation man.. that is the key to poll performance and endurance. Let them choose. It is working here.. could it work for prog songs. Honestly I don't recall anyone trying this .. instead we get the usual x vs. y from the biggies. And god help you if try polls with obscure stuff.. I once did.. and had a years long streak of polls that never reached page 2 (another forum record of mine never to be touched) A quick suggestion if you might want to try it.. songs from albums outside the top .. say.. umm.. 100.. and no big 6'rs. Take a wack at that perhaps and see how it flies.... I have a hunch it will work... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 20:49
looking forward to seeing what you come up with... the more out of the ordinary or unexpected the better!! I can only speak for myself, but suspect I do for most, I am looking for things that I haven't heard before.. or might be unexpected stylistically if the artist is well known (like the CDB song I posted).take this and see if you can run with it.. find something you like that you think a bunch of old farts might like or make us go Wow man.. and go from there. Surprise us ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 21:09
getting pretty heavy here for a Sundayish night...but don't diaagree at all with you there. For all the sh*t slung at prog rock over the many years.. some was undeserved.. some deserved.. but the root of much of that criticism is actually quite valid. And on the flip side of that root is the disdain many prog fans have of (in their eyes) lesser .. more simplistic forms of music has never made sense to me. Gentle Giant for me is the perfect example in its two very different guises (pre and post Phil) of what you are saying where one evokes emotion. feeling, atmosphere or later the emphasis on the ohhhs and ahhhs of technical ability and complexity which is ultimately cold and soulless. No f**king thanks
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 21:52
No, no, no....Let's not start PA-WWIII . EW&F are in my top 5 all time bands, I grew up with them and they were my vehicle to progressive rock. They always included instrumentals and some of them longer pcs, but always pushing their funk/R&B roots on instrumentals with Maurice White making the kalimba a popular instrument and part of their signature sound. They also pushed me into jazz exploration and mainly due to Zanzibar.But no inclusion here...please!  -------------
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 21:58
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My favs were Beth Chapman and the Bears, BTW the song is not Dave it's Car Caught Fire, Dave is the YT poster. Not sure if anyone caught that..... -------------
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 22:11
She has a range in vocals and styles. Her first album has more of a country blues vibe. First song I heard from her that got my attention was this one. Yeah, I can hear the Bent Knee. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 02:35
There are loads of albums outside the top 100 that >90% of those participating here know and know very well, and that have been discussed and used in polls over an over again. "No Big 6" still leaves VDGG, Gentle Giant, Camel... I don't think that'd be attractive. Now the condition I can imagine inside prog that makes it interesting is: Maximum 10 ratings. By the way, personally I'm not that fast. I gave half the songs a listening yesterday but may want to hear them again for voting, and then there's the others. I can probably put something together by the end of today but even that'd be a bit in a hurry because I might want to relisten to a few and I'm not sure how much time I have today. This poll series is really great, I totally agree and I love it, but I don't like that much being forced to hurry. There were other series (like "make your own xxx album" in the top 10) that I found very attractive, but then these things were popping up two a day and that really ruined it for me.
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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 03:27
I already have a condition worked out for prog, but I won't reveal it just yet. I don't think "Maximum 10 ratings" is a good condition because how many of us would be able to choose albums with less than 10 ratings. That is, not just having such albums, but to be able to locate such albums in our collection, checking that they indeed do have less than 10 ratings. ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 05:42
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 05:51
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these three songs stood out for me: Earth Wind & Fire - Zanzibar Jo Jo Gunne - Take it Easy
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 05:56
hmmmmmm?! this can mean both good and bad So did you like it?
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 06:22
Haha, I can probably on the spot name at least 20 (to begin with, the one of which I use the cover as avatar)... but then my taste may be "in the prog margins".
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 10:06
Ahh!! Thanks....corrected -------------
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 14:44
Yes I think that a single poll should last for a week, in this way we can have time to listen and relisten to all the songs. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 14:46
Well I had mixed feelings to listen to it, I was undecided whether to consider it good music or just a very commercial and enjoyable easy listening. Some passages reminded me of the electro-tango music that I danced, and that I liked, although obviously this song is not a tango. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 14:46
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Ok, so most of the votes are in, but this thread will remain open for those that still want to vote. At this point, it looks like Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks - Real Emotional Trash is at the top with 6 votes, Beth Nielson Chapman - Away Beyond the Blue and Charlie Daniels Band - No Place to Go are tied at number 5. As far as Lewian's concern, the poll can be a little fast for some. The last thing we want is for anyone to feel rushed when voting, so take your time, the poll will always be here. Keep your eyes and ears open for round 3 which should be coming soon. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 14:48
Sounds good to me too. No reason to rush things. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 14:50
I actually like the Mandrilla track. It's one of those that will continue to grow on me, so the artist is in my radar. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |