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Topic: What About Geddy Lee's Voice!!Posted By: SteveG
Subject: What About Geddy Lee's Voice!!
Date Posted: April 29 2020 at 10:20
Enough with all these pretenders. What about Geddy's voice? An acquired taste or smooth as velvet?
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Replies: Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: April 29 2020 at 10:24
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: April 29 2020 at 10:37
Quite annoying actually.
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: April 29 2020 at 10:51
I personally like it, specially on their early albums, and I think it fits the music quite well. Later, as it happened to most rock singers, it got a little harsh and limited his ability to sing.
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: April 29 2020 at 10:58
What kind of sound does velvet make...?
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: April 29 2020 at 10:59
Haven't acquired that taste.
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: April 29 2020 at 11:19
An acquired taste no doubt. His voice never stopped me from listening to Rush.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 29 2020 at 11:21
dr wu23 wrote:
What kind of sound does velvet make...?
smooth as velvet?
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 29 2020 at 11:26
Geddy Lee's voice is right up there with his keyboard playing.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: April 29 2020 at 11:43
dr wu23 wrote:
What kind of sound does velvet make...?
It sounds like butter, but better. Come on
Doc, get with the program!
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Posted By: Gentle and Giant
Date Posted: April 29 2020 at 11:47
Love it. Prefer his singing to Jon Anderson's.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: April 29 2020 at 11:49
Doesn't bother me. Rush wouldn't be Rush without Geddy.
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 29 2020 at 11:52
Woo yeah!
Well... Odd that you start this one. I was just listening to Nektar's A Spoonful Of Time and they do a cover of Spirit Of The Radio. And I must say I like Roye's vocals better than Geddy. He can play guitar as good as Alex. No one can outdo Neil on drums though. I feel another poll coming on on artists doing cover albums.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: April 29 2020 at 11:53
^Yeah, I have that cd. Too bad Roye is no longer with us. There still is a Nektar though even without him.
Posted By: Machinemessiah
Date Posted: April 29 2020 at 12:27
Rush is totally part of the 'Big' club for me (and it puzzles me if in a Progressive Rock site it isn't). For me Rush, fulfils my (progressive) 'power' needs.. and Geddy's screams is a great part of the deal.. I'm not into metal, nor things like Faith no More (though can listen), but, on a more 'classic (progressive) rock' flavor, for me this is as good as it gets in terms of power. But yeah.. perfectly understandable if it is an acquired taste; with my school friends long ago there was also a moment when we started questioning 'the witch', but in my case (and theirs too) it was a short hiatus and then I returned for good; for me Rush is indispensable, I'm always listening to them. I was in a band called 'Jacob's Ladder' totally inspired by Rush, and we 'tackled' some of the more affordable Rush' songs, but, the moment you have to sing one of them, you are completely at loss...
Favorite moments: Anthem with that scream.. 2112 when he starts the song high above.. Hemispheres beginning:
"When our weary world was young The struggle of the ancients first began The gods of Love and Reason Sought alone to rule the fate of Man"
<goosebumps>
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: April 29 2020 at 13:45
Love it. One of my favorites. Honestly prefer him to Robert Plant, to whom he's often compared.
I think the ultimate test is whether you love or hate the last line of Cygnus X-1 Book I....
every nerve is, TORN APAAAA-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRT!
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 29 2020 at 13:55
Can't say I'm particularly bothered by the sound of a "Cat being chased out a door with a blow-torch up its butt"
Of course Geddy is an amazing musician. This says its better than anything I could think up:
Music industry writer Christopher Buttner, who interviewed Lee in 1996, described him as a prodigy and "role model" for what every musician wants to be, noting his proficiency on stage. Buttner cited Lee's ability to vary time signatures, play multiple keyboards, use bass pedal controllers and control sequencers, all while singing lead vocals into as many as three microphones. Buttner adds that few musicians of any instrument "can juggle half of what Geddy can do without literally falling on their ass.
sorry for all the 'ass references'!
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: April 29 2020 at 13:56
I do like it. Despite his high pitch, I don't find it annoying at all. Later on, when he lost that high pitch it became a bit more tiresome after a few songs, but still nothing to really stop me from enjoying the music.
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: April 29 2020 at 14:02
Thank goodness I don't like Rush so I don't have to hear his voice.
Posted By: fronobulax
Date Posted: April 29 2020 at 16:02
Have you folks heard "Pavlov's Dog?" It's the closest thing to Geddy I've heard, but even more high pitched and laden with vibrato.
Of course Geddy is a god because Rush is (by Caress of Steel) completely original, love it or hate it!
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: April 29 2020 at 20:59
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Doesn't bother me. Rush wouldn't be Rush without Geddy.
feel the same---his voice shouldn't work --yet somehow it does in this band. Has he ever done solo work and if and when he does would be interesting to see how his singing works
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: April 29 2020 at 21:47
Machinemessiah wrote:
Rush is totally part of the 'Big' club for me (and it puzzles me if in a Progressive Rock site it isn't). For me Rush, fulfils my (progressive) 'power' needs.. and Geddy's screams is a great part of the deal.. I'm not into metal, nor things like Faith no More (though can listen), but, on a more 'classic (progressive) rock' flavor, for me this is as good as it gets in terms of power. But yeah.. perfectly understandable if it is an acquired taste; with my school friends long ago there was also a moment when we started questioning 'the witch', but in my case (and theirs too) it was a short hiatus and then I returned for good; for me Rush is indispensable, I'm always listening to them. I was in a band called 'Jacob's Ladder' totally inspired by Rush, and we 'tackled' some of the more affordable Rush' songs, but, the moment you have to sing one of them, you are completely at loss...
Favorite moments: Anthem with that scream.. 2112 when he starts the song high above.. Hemispheres beginning:
"When our weary world was young The struggle of the ancients first began The gods of Love and Reason Sought alone to rule the fate of Man"
<goosebumps>
richardh wrote:
Can't say I'm particularly bothered by the sound of a "Cat being chased out a door with a blow-torch up its butt"
Of course Geddy is an amazing musician. This says its better than anything I could think up:
Music industry writer Christopher Buttner, who interviewed Lee in 1996, described him as a prodigy and "role model" for what every musician wants to be, noting his proficiency on stage. Buttner cited Lee's ability to vary time signatures, play multiple keyboards, use bass pedal controllers and control sequencers, all while singing lead vocals into as many as three microphones. Buttner adds that few musicians of any instrument "can juggle half of what Geddy can do without literally falling on their ass.
sorry for all the 'ass references'!
Two very good posts . I have read other articles saying same thing as Mr Buttner about Geddy Lee. It was around '76 when I got into Rush and going forward as a young teenager I never had any issue with Geddy's voice, it never struck me that way. Although I can see (hear) why some might have an issue, but to me that is just digging too deep and trying to find a reason to dislike a band.......His voice fits the era from a more heavy-hard rock/metal band to a more mature sounding 2nd half of their catalog.
I am perfectly fine with his tone and style, which as a professional has changed with the times.
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Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 01:38
Geddy Lee is definately an aquired taste...but his screech is essential for the music....plus if you listen to his bass playing, especially on Hemispheres very few moments where the bass is boss as complexity...Rush should have got a keysman in after 1980, so that they could have really expanded on prog metal base. Signals was the biggest letdown in my whole prog listening life...miles worse than ATTWT....and that was a big enough sell out...
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Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 01:42
Oh and you will get some smart arses on here who wińl tell you that Rush only became interesting after PW.....words escape me on such flagrant betrayal of the prog ethos...
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 01:54
When I first heard Rush it was around the Moving Pictures era, and his balls were just starting to drop. I actually really liked his voice. Although, overall, the albums after GUP were not as good as their predecessors, his voice only improved with age.
On the 70's albums, his voice is like Robert Plant throwing a hissy fit in a crack lounge, but, for me it no way impairs the quality of the music.
In summary, I have no problem with his voice.
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 02:57
Not a favourite, but don't really mind it and maybe even like it a little on the Permanent Waves and onwards albums. Scream Geddy Lee phase is definitely not something I enjoy.
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 03:10
Fantastic musicians but I was never a fan and Geddy's voice for me, is like sandpaper on the soul
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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 04:21
Polarizing voice, and I've never minded it at all!
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 05:39
fronobulax wrote:
Have you folks heard "Pavlov's Dog?" It's the closest thing to Geddy I've heard, but even more high pitched and laden with vibrato.
Of course Geddy is a god because Rush is (by Caress of Steel) completely original, love it or hate it!
It's the closest thing to Geddy I've heard
Then you've clearly never heard or seen Burke Shelley of Budgie, then!
I love Geddy Lee's voice. But I was already a big fan of Budgie and anyone who sounds like Burke Shelley is fine by me.
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Posted By: judahbenkenobi
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 08:58
It is an acquired taste without a doubt. But I practically grew up with the guy, so I find absolutely no problem at all with his voice. On the other hand, if I'm introducing someone to Rush, I tend to avoid the early albums because of his shrieking vocals. Once I have my apprentice on track I introduce the early Rush, so that the voice will be understood within its proper context.
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 09:04
If you're a Rush fan, you're a Geddy fan. You can't have one without the other. Too bad we never got to hear Geddy and Rik Emmett, another excellent Canadian musician from the "high-pitched" lead vocal club, collaborate on something.
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 13:19
Anyone here fans of Thank You Scientist whose vocalist seems to be very influenced by Geddy? I concur with the majority that Rush just wouldn't be Rush without him vocally and bassically.
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Posted By: Spacegod87
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 20:18
When I heard my first Rush song, I admit that Geddy's voice hit me like a freight train.
It definitely took a little to get used to, but it wasn't too bad because I listened to a lot of heavy metal before that, so I was used to high-pitched, screamy voices.
I don't know why it surprised me so much with Rush though, it just did. Needless to say, I love his voice now, although it can become a bit grating at times.
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 22:59
I adore also Geddy´s seventies & eighties voice, but he sounded terrible in the last days of Rush.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 30 2020 at 23:58
M27Barney wrote:
Oh and you will get some smart arses on here who wińl tell you that Rush only became interesting after PW.....words escape me on such flagrant betrayal of the prog ethos...
I don't think anyone is saying that at all
Rush are fascinating for their ability to re-invent and be creative. What is 'progressive' about just peddling a sound and style ad nauseum? Rush didn't do that . There are very clear phases of the music where they concentrated on a particular idea. The eighties did get very electro based but mostly they still put out 'interesting' stuff. Prog ethos is a horrible phrase. Most people reject that flat out. Just be creative , that's the name of the game.
Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: May 01 2020 at 04:20
richardh wrote:
M27Barney wrote:
Oh and you will get some smart arses on here who wińl tell you that Rush only became interesting after PW.....words escape me on such flagrant betrayal of the prog ethos...
I don't think anyone is saying that at all
Rush are fascinating for their ability to re-invent and be creative. What is 'progressive' about just peddling a sound and style ad nauseum? Rush didn't do that . There are very clear phases of the music where they concentrated on a particular idea. The eighties did get very electro based but mostly they still put out 'interesting' stuff. Prog ethos is a horrible phrase. Most people reject that flat out. Just be creative , that's the name of the game.
Yeah but both Genesis (post Hackett) and Rush (after MP) REGRESSED into popular synth/pop/AOR fusion neither band produced anything near what a prog ethesist would consider progression...The reason the likes of me listened to Stardust we are and fell in love almost instantly, is because nostalgically such lengthy bombastic epics took seventies prog and progressed it into mega prog....now it's time for tera prog....only daga band (with a live track which was essentially three half hour suites, one piano, one moog and synths then finally organ, moog and synths) have ventured into tera prog....Paraplasma was the track name and ten times better than anything wakeman or emerson did...Greg Boynton..sadly a forgotten talent, now long dead...
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: May 01 2020 at 06:27
M27Barney wrote:
Oh and you will get some smart arses on here who wińl tell you that Rush only became interesting after PW.....words escape me on such flagrant betrayal of the prog ethos...
Nobody here is saying that but Peart did say it.
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 01 2020 at 07:32
twosteves wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Doesn't bother me. Rush wouldn't be Rush without Geddy.
feel the same---his voice shouldn't work --yet somehow it does in this band. Has he ever done solo work and if and when he does would be interesting to see how his singing works
Yes he has released a solo album - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Favourite_Headache" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Favourite_Headache
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 01 2020 at 07:34
I remember when I first heard Rush, a friend had bought All The World's a Stage. I must admit when we first heard it we both thought "wtf?" when the singing started, but since then I've had no problems with his singing.
I don't like David Surkamp though.
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: May 01 2020 at 07:54
I quite enjoy his early "castrato with a megaphone" efforts, at least on my favourite Rush LP, Caress of Squeal.
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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: May 01 2020 at 14:49
M27Barney wrote:
richardh wrote:
M27Barney wrote:
Oh and you will get some smart arses on here who wińl tell you that Rush only became interesting after PW.....words escape me on such flagrant betrayal of the prog ethos...
I don't think anyone is saying that at all
Rush are fascinating for their ability to re-invent and be creative. What is 'progressive' about just peddling a sound and style ad nauseum? Rush didn't do that . There are very clear phases of the music where they concentrated on a particular idea. The eighties did get very electro based but mostly they still put out 'interesting' stuff. Prog ethos is a horrible phrase. Most people reject that flat out. Just be creative , that's the name of the game.
Yeah but both Genesis (post Hackett) and Rush (after MP) REGRESSED into popular synth/pop/AOR fusion neither band produced anything near what a prog ethesist would consider progression...The reason the likes of me listened to Stardust we are and fell in love almost instantly, is because nostalgically such lengthy bombastic epics took seventies prog and progressed it into mega prog....now it's time for tera prog....only daga band (with a live track which was essentially three half hour suites, one piano, one moog and synths then finally organ, moog and synths) have ventured into tera prog....Paraplasma was the track name and ten times better than anything wakeman or emerson did...Greg Boynton..sadly a forgotten talent, now long dead...
I don't see how they "regressed." They moved on with the times. Maybe you don't like it, but you can't use that word objectively. Arguably, a band like The Flower Kings was regressive, because they harkened back to the time of their influences. Sure they took it and ran ahead with it, but it took the regression first. I say this not to lambast TFK, but to point out that art is subjective. Genesis and Rush were making music that no one else was making in the 80s still. All of their periods have been influential for many. It seems like you are conflating "prog rock" and "progressive rock," one being a musical style, the other being an idea about pushing the boundaries of rock music in the context of the time. In the early 70s, the two were one and the same. But rock musicians weren't going to just disregard trends in taste and breakthroughs in electronic instruments and recording equipment. Not if they wanted to be relevant, or if they cared at all about "progressing" their art. If it's not to your tastes, that's fine.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 02 2020 at 01:13
M27Barney wrote:
richardh wrote:
M27Barney wrote:
Oh and you will get some smart arses on here who wińl tell you that Rush only became interesting after PW.....words escape me on such flagrant betrayal of the prog ethos...
I don't think anyone is saying that at all
Rush are fascinating for their ability to re-invent and be creative. What is 'progressive' about just peddling a sound and style ad nauseum? Rush didn't do that . There are very clear phases of the music where they concentrated on a particular idea. The eighties did get very electro based but mostly they still put out 'interesting' stuff. Prog ethos is a horrible phrase. Most people reject that flat out. Just be creative , that's the name of the game.
Yeah but both Genesis (post Hackett) and Rush (after MP) REGRESSED into popular synth/pop/AOR fusion neither band produced anything near what a prog ethesist would consider progression...The reason the likes of me listened to Stardust we are and fell in love almost instantly, is because nostalgically such lengthy bombastic epics took seventies prog and progressed it into mega prog....now it's time for tera prog....only daga band (with a live track which was essentially three half hour suites, one piano, one moog and synths then finally organ, moog and synths) have ventured into tera prog....Paraplasma was the track name and ten times better than anything wakeman or emerson did...Greg Boynton..sadly a forgotten talent, now long dead...
Wow , Daga Band that was one I had forgotten about totally.
I love a bit of retro prog but that is what it is. Progression can come in many forms. Rush got very close to symph prog but after 1980 no one was really do it anymore until the 90's revival. At heart, Rush were a hard rock band that embraced old fashioned prog for a while until it was dead on the ground. Then they looked at bands like The Police for inspiration and go it in spades. I have stacks of seventies style prog to listen to , I don't need all 'my' bands to be like that!
Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: May 02 2020 at 04:40
^ I saw Daga band at the Gallery in Manchester. A small late night music venue. As with Pallas at the same venue the number of paying customers could be counted by a one handed man. At both gigs I was drinking with the bands prior to tbe gig. And both dagaband and Pallas did stuff for the mad geezer who had just told them that he liked long bombastic mellotron chords and synth arpegios aplenty. Thus dagaband did their self indulgent jam paraplasma, with classical piano, bach organ like stuff, and an extended old castle by ELP in amongst wakeman exerpts...Pallas did a 70 min plus version of March on atlantis + half hour renditions of the ripper and queen of the deep...the guitar solo in that was the best solo I have ever heard on stage...both those gigs were so magic a true description escapes me...
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: May 02 2020 at 08:44
Blacksword wrote:
When I first heard Rush it was around the Moving Pictures era, and his balls were just starting to drop. I actually really liked his voice. Although, overall, the albums after GUP were not as good as their predecessors, his voice only improved with age.
On the 70's albums, his voice is like Robert Plant throwing a hissy fit in a crack lounge, but, for me it no way impairs the quality of the music.
In summary, I have no problem with his voice.
I agree with this (and I first heard of Rush around the Moving Pictures era as well). From PW onwards his singing has improved. I found his squealing and shrieking vocal style not quite attractive, although it did fit the music in a way.
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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: May 02 2020 at 08:54
I likee it
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 03 2020 at 03:37
M27Barney wrote:
^ I saw Daga band at the Gallery in Manchester. A small late night music venue. As with Pallas at the same venue the number of paying customers could be counted by a one handed man. At both gigs I was drinking with the bands prior to tbe gig. And both dagaband and Pallas did stuff for the mad geezer who had just told them that he liked long bombastic mellotron chords and synth arpegios aplenty. Thus dagaband did their self indulgent jam paraplasma, with classical piano, bach organ like stuff, and an extended old castle by ELP in amongst wakeman exerpts...Pallas did a 70 min plus version of March on atlantis + half hour renditions of the ripper and queen of the deep...the guitar solo in that was the best solo I have ever heard on stage...both those gigs were so magic a true description escapes me...
Sounds like it was a lot of fun!
I never got to see Daga Band although I did see Pallas at the Astoria many years ago . I remember the fans great enthusiasm more than the music though.
Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: May 03 2020 at 10:05
The Gallery was manchesters equivalent of the Marquee...also saw IQ, Marillion and Trilogy there, tho the place was at capacity for those gigs....I also saw Pendragon at Manchester uni, when a lot of their later material was very much extended and far more bombastic than what was eventually recorded. I also saw Twelfth night at the Target club...possibly the third best concert I ever saw...tho Hackett at the Lowry (with stolt on bass guitar) was the best modern gig I have seen...
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Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: May 03 2020 at 10:08
Oh I forgot The Enid at Band on the wall...good gig also...
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Posted By: Gordy
Date Posted: May 14 2020 at 19:52
How did it get so high? I wonder if he speaks like an ordinary guy?
(I know him and he does!)
Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: May 15 2020 at 07:25
rogerthat wrote:
M27Barney wrote:
Oh and you will get some smart arses on here who wińl tell you that Rush only became interesting after PW.....words escape me on such flagrant betrayal of the prog ethos...
Nobody here is saying that but Peart did say it.
Yup, he thinks that Rush "began" with Moving Pictures which I think is complete kooky talk but totally understandable given Peart's personality.
As far as Ged's voice? I never had a problem with it. Love the screech. My only issue is that when singing the older songs in recent years, he couldn't sing them like he could when they were created.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 15 2020 at 09:24
Jeffro wrote:
My only issue is that when singing the older songs in recent years, he couldn't sing them like he could when they were created.
It happens to all of them except the ones named Sammy Hagar.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 17 2020 at 00:30
^ Jon Anderson?
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 17 2020 at 01:00
Hes best vocals is to be found in Rush album "Signals", there he both have a warmth, soulfull and powerfull voice. It really comes out on that album.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 17 2020 at 05:38
no one .. outside of 'rush fan' would ever consider Geddy a great singer.. but his vocals.. were fun to listen to..very endearing in a geeked out Rush kind of way.
Few vocalists can make me smile as hearing Geddy really get after it in the pre AOR/MTV days of their first 4 or 5 albums and become the shrieking elf of prog..
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Posted By: Green Shield Stamp
Date Posted: May 17 2020 at 14:24
I think his vocals have got better over time - a little lower and more soulful. This is one of the reasons why I like the later albums the best (from Signals onwards). Having said that, 2112 and Farewell to Kings are two of my favourite albums ever.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 19 2020 at 00:00
I reckon his best vocals are on the 90's albums. Nobody's Hero is a great example but they were more of a straightforward hard rock band at this point. The last attempt at anything 'prog' was maybe Hold You Fire. I still like a lot of those later albums though and Geddy generally is very good.
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 20 2020 at 00:01
Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: May 20 2020 at 01:01
Geddy's voice is integral to Rush and I had no problem with the earlier albums and the live ATWAS. It was just part of what Rush was all about and maybe that was why they were such a cult band for those who 'got' it. However, it was an obstacle to many of my friends not taking to the band earlier on. However, I have to admit occasionally I would grimace at times - notably the final section of Cygnus X-1. I think from Hemispheres through to Moving Pictures there was a slight softening and consequently this was my favourite period. After that, his tone softened very much through the late 80s and 90s and whilst it undoubtedly led to the band being more accessible, the material was generally not as good. The final years were a return to form and the smoother tone worked well in the studio. However, live, his vocals increasingly struggled on the earlier songs and I find I don't listen to the later live albums (and there are many) as much.
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Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: May 20 2020 at 02:27
richardh wrote:
I reckon his best vocals are on the 90's albums. Nobody's Hero is a great example but they were more of a straightforward hard rock band at this point. The last attempt at anything 'prog' was maybe Hold You Fire. I still like a lot of those later albums though and Geddy generally is very good.
What about Clockwork Angels?
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: May 20 2020 at 09:44
Squonk19 wrote:
Geddy's voice is integral to Rush and I had no problem with the earlier albums and the live ATWAS. It was just part of what Rush was all about and maybe that was why they were such a cult band for those who 'got' it. However, it was an obstacle to many of my friends not taking to the band earlier on. However, I have to admit occasionally I would grimace at times - notably the final section of Cygnus X-1. I think from Hemispheres through to Moving Pictures there was a slight softening and consequently this was my favourite period. After that, his tone softened very much through the late 80s and 90s and whilst it undoubtedly led to the band being more accessible, the material was generally not as good. The final years were a return to form and the smoother tone worked well in the studio. However, live, his vocals increasingly struggled on the earlier songs and I find I don't listen to the later live albums (and there are many) as much.
I'm not sure who it was, maybe Terry Brown, suggested that Geddy try a lower register to calm the highs. I too am one who in the early years had no issue with Geddy's vocals. I'm talking mid-late 70's and during HS years, it never bothered me, I also don't recall any friends that were into Rush and those that were not ever complained about the early albums and ATWAS.
I just remember playing albums after school.......For me it has only been in the last 10yrs or so that I realized how many people did have an issue with his vocals, but mainly from music journalists. I have the Rush tour book Wandering the Face of the Earth and there are many many snipets of live show reviews and many focus on Geddy's vocals early on, many not very kind.
But clearly, the music world over all had no issue with his vocal style, early or in the later years.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: May 20 2020 at 09:48
Tbh, it was always the haters that took issue with Geddy's voice. Saying things like "a rat caught in a shredder..blah, blah." I don't recall any fans that didn't like his vocals. It was just a part of the Rush "sound".
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 20 2020 at 10:18
SteveG wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
What kind of sound does velvet make...?
It sounds like butter, but better. Come on Doc, get with the program!
When I hear Geddy Lee’s vocals, I don’t think “I can’t believe it’s not butter or velvett. ;)I think it sounds more like a nails on a chalkboard kimono or an Eastern screech owl.negligee than a velvet cape in terms of fabric wear. By the way, there are serious fields of study, not surprisingly if you think about it, that measure the sounds that fabrics make when rubbed against each other and against other things. Noisy-wear can be a fashion statement. Ninjas favoured fabrics that helped with mobility as well as minimizing sound.
Alternately, velvet can have a sort of underground sound. Think Venus in Furs
Then think Venus in Velvet, then if you are like me, think Venus in nothing at all. Mmm, nude Venus sounds good to me.
And come to think of it, a buttered up Venus sounds even better. But if a velvety buttered up Geddy Lee is more your or other people’s thing, I won’t judge you.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 22 2020 at 08:59
^ That's one of those posts that seemed witty in my head but didn't translate well to text. Humour is tough, no wonder I was told "Don't quit your day job." Poor concept, and even worse execution.
So not to leave this thread on a poor humour *crickets chirping* attempt at humour note (I'm such a dweeb -- I don't really find that to be a very offensive term, I call myself that a lot):
I don't mind Geddy Lee's vocals, but he's far from a favourite of mine. It didn't get in the way of my enjoyment of Rush, and I think it does work for the music. In fact, I have often liked his vocals. Going to put on "Bastille Day". Caress of Steel is my particular favourite Rush album.
I love the vocals of another singer who is often compared to him, David Surkamp of Pavlov's Dog.
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Posted By: Davesax1965
Date Posted: May 23 2020 at 02:18
It's more Rush's politics on the early albums which irritate me.
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Posted By: chameleonday
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 14:33
His voice alone is what has prevented me from delving into their work. Musically I am interested in the early albums. When I think of Rush, I always think of the shrill "saaaaalesman".
Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 17:28
For me, his voice fits well in the mix of their music. You don't want too many instruments and voices sitting at one register, or it muddies up the sound. Geddy is often way up there, so his voice sounds distinct in the mix. Sometimes, he sounds very beautiful, like in the classical guitar inspired part on Xanadu, and with those lovely keyboards, too, it is mesmerizing. Other times, he sounds cool, like on Tom Sawyer, or sincere, like on Manhattan Project. Still, other times, he sounds like a migraine-inducing screeching cat in a blender, but I still love it.
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 10:46
chameleonday wrote:
His voice alone is what has prevented me from delving into their work. Musically I am interested in the early albums. When I think of Rush, I always think of the shrill "saaaaalesman".
Geddy doesn't do that on the post-Waves albums. Check out Moving Pictures, Signals, Grace Under Pressure and Power Windows.
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 11:51
verslibre wrote:
chameleonday wrote:
His voice alone is what has prevented me from delving into their work. Musically I am interested in the early albums. When I think of Rush, I always think of the shrill "saaaaalesman".
Geddy doesn't do that on the post-Waves albums. Check out Moving Pictures, Signals, Grace Under Pressure and Power Windows.
Yeah, bummer isn't it?
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 13:08
SteveG wrote:
verslibre wrote:
chameleonday wrote:
His voice alone is what has prevented me from delving into their work. Musically I am interested in the early albums. When I think of Rush, I always think of the shrill "saaaaalesman".
Geddy doesn't do that on the post-Waves albums. Check out Moving Pictures, Signals, Grace Under Pressure and Power Windows.
Yeah, bummer isn't it?
It's possible to like 70s Rush and 80s Rush. I like the way their sound evolved, especially the incorporation of electronics.
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 10 2020 at 09:01
chameleonday wrote:
His voice alone is what has prevented me from delving into their work. Musically I am interested in the early albums. When I think of Rush, I always think of the shrill "saaaaalesman".
Yeaaaaaah.... me too. I hate whe he does the squeals. Sought alone to rule the fate of mAaAaAn.
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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: June 25 2020 at 07:58
Gordy wrote:
How did it get so high? I wonder if he speaks like an ordinary guy?
(I know him and he does!)
I freaking love Pavement!!! Thank you for that.
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Posted By: Braka1
Date Posted: June 26 2020 at 15:24
Gordy wrote:
How did it get so high? I wonder if he speaks like an ordinary guy?
(I know him and he does!)
Wowee Zowee!
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Posted By: Braka1
Date Posted: June 26 2020 at 15:28
Like an owl falling into a bin of lettuce.
I'm sorry. That was just a line from an old cartoon by B. Kliban. "The snow kept coming down like an owl falling into a bin of lettuce". And I've always wanted to quote it.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 26 2020 at 17:12
Braka1 wrote:
Gordy wrote:
How did it get so high? I wonder if he speaks like an ordinary guy?
(I know him and he does!)
Wowee Zowee!
Wrong album.
Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: June 26 2020 at 19:08
Belting out certain vocals requires a certain commitment. It is akin to flipping a pancake ... flapjack, crepe, tortilla, blini, griddle cake, hot cake, drop scone, slapjack ... whatever you call them in your locality. You have GOT to commit to the flip when you are flipping a pancake. I feel like sometimes he does, such as in the “salesmen” lyric, which I happen to like. But, other times, like in the “woo woo ... you can be the captain and I will draw the chart” lyric, he doesn’t commit to the “woo woo”. It’s like he is debating whether to vocalize it or not. Then, the pancake winds up half flipped, which is no kind of pancake that I want to be eating. Of course, anyone who can sing The Big Money while simultaneously grooving out that funky bassline deserves a vocalist medal of Prog honor.
Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: June 26 2020 at 19:19
You can choose to like Geddy Lee’s vocals or you can choose not to like them. But, if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.
Posted By: Braka1
Date Posted: June 26 2020 at 20:52
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Braka1 wrote:
Gordy wrote:
How did it get so high? I wonder if he speaks like an ordinary guy?
(I know him and he does!)
Wowee Zowee!
Wrong album.
Yeah, I know, but I preferred it. And it works better as an exclamative!
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 11:26
verslibre wrote:
SteveG wrote:
verslibre wrote:
chameleonday wrote:
His voice alone is what has prevented me from delving into their work. Musically I am interested in the early albums. When I think of Rush, I always think of the shrill "saaaaalesman".
Geddy doesn't do that on the post-Waves albums. Check out Moving Pictures, Signals, Grace Under Pressure and Power Windows.
Yeah, bummer isn't it?
It's possible to like 70s Rush and 80s Rush. I like the way their sound evolved, especially the incorporation of electronics.
that's a good point, I do enjoy the electronic infusion as many bands upped that feature in the 80s. Later on it got dropped as a main instrument and they also made that transition well......Counterparts is an excellent release.
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Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 11:54
Catcher10 wrote:
verslibre wrote:
SteveG wrote:
verslibre wrote:
chameleonday wrote:
His voice alone is what has prevented me from delving into their work. Musically I am interested in the early albums. When I think of Rush, I always think of the shrill "saaaaalesman".
Geddy doesn't do that on the post-Waves albums. Check out Moving Pictures, Signals, Grace Under Pressure and Power Windows.
Yeah, bummer isn't it?
It's possible to like 70s Rush and 80s Rush. I like the way their sound evolved, especially the incorporation of electronics.
that's a good point, I do enjoy the electronic infusion as many bands upped that feature in the 80s. Later on it got dropped as a main instrument and they also made that transition well......Counterparts is an excellent release.
There was a lot of excitement when Counterparts came out. Great show too! Up to that point, I think it was their most solid album since Power Windows. You are right. They were able to adapt without losing their integrity. My favorite period of theirs was the Farewell to Kings era, but I really enjoyed these later albums as well.
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 18:22
Counterparts is awesome. It's much better than the two albums before it. And the concert floored us! We had weird seats (stage right), but we were able to see everything Al & Geddy were doing with their hands and feet.
Posted By: glaswegians
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 22:58
Gordy wrote:
How did it get so high? I wonder if he speaks like an ordinary guy?
(I know him and he does!)
I've never had an issue with his voice. But holy hell, being able to sing that WHILE playing those lines? Phenomenal stuff. Really bummed that I haven't seen them