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Topic: Moonmadness
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Subject: Moonmadness
Date Posted: March 10 2020 at 12:01
CAMEL emerged from Guildford like a MIRAGE with the release of their first album in 1973. The band have since gone on to become as legendary as the flight of THE SNOW GOOSE, with its annual long migration from Canada to Mexico. Their fourth album was a concept album, released at a time when the concept album was King. When record buyers listened to the final track on the album, Lunar Sea (Lunacy), they may have thought they were experiencing a temporary bout of MOONMADNESS, as the song played on endlessly, in what's known as the "terminal groove" effect. Camel's next critically acclaimed album had their loyal fanbase performing RAIN DANCES of delight and they were BREATHLESS with anticipation for the follow-up album. Who can forget the stark image of the crucified astronaut on the cover of I CAN SEE YOUR HOUSE FROM HERE, where he's metaphorically NUDE and alone in the endless depths of space. THE SINGLE FACTOR determining his fate is whether there's a spacecraft waiting nearby to come to the rescue, or whether he's doomed to drift endlessly through space like a STATIONARY TRAVELLER, when all of his hopes will be crushed like DUST AND DREAMS in a HARBOUR OF TEARS. Camel had a return to form in 1999 with the release of their RAJAZ album, which gave A NOD AND A WINK towards their classic 1970's albums. Wink
 
Camel Albums
 
 4 stars 1973: Camel - Camel -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3iRBCmFzEGg8QuVyfAUr05ilgjPWUH-5" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3iRBCmFzEGg8QuVyfAUr05ilgjPWUH-5
 5 stars 1974: Camel - Mirage -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4-oCE2y-CrE1LA1_zjHWcWP82PPCngaH" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4-oCE2y-CrE1LA1_zjHWcWP82PPCngaH
 4 stars 1975: Camel - The Snow Goose -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n-E4oCUFb3iPPuQZ3IAh_9LpBh76MJYQU" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n-E4oCUFb3iPPuQZ3IAh_9LpBh76MJYQU
 5 stars 1976: Camel - Moonmadness -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nyGHrNV07De1VA_TDOmy8b8V9hdj8yxS8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nyGHrNV07De1VA_TDOmy8b8V9hdj8yxS8
 5 stars 1977: Cemel - Rain Dances -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lACysOFHgWHq-1HaQPQl6Dat2pKlp774U" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lACysOFHgWHq-1HaQPQl6Dat2pKlp774U
 5 stars 1978: Cemel - A Live Record -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m4-adu0ifiojsm-vz-PLACrpKN_AwxEXI" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m4-adu0ifiojsm-vz-PLACrpKN_AwxEXI
 4 stars 1978: Camel - Breathless -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvsYXqtYjMYfMMJVy2zovBFi_KFCnZZTT" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvsYXqtYjMYfMMJVy2zovBFi_KFCnZZTT
 4 stars 1979: Camel - I Can See Your House from Here -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mY9QnwL06xz0RACCIkp0pTOrgDBaev5Sw" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mY9QnwL06xz0RACCIkp0pTOrgDBaev5Sw
 4 stars 1981: Camel - Nude -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kIekOFMMIc9WnSq2QpGuwZcwwaAIa5Pv8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kIekOFMMIc9WnSq2QpGuwZcwwaAIa5Pv8
 3 stars 1982: Camel - The Single Factor -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPmo393DXHIcCQzz57AUxynXHuBqs9FdM" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPmo393DXHIcCQzz57AUxynXHuBqs9FdM
 4 stars 1984: Camel - Stationary Traveller -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVoHLI_LXfji959PEEdKmuvju9WaAg-lX" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVoHLI_LXfji959PEEdKmuvju9WaAg-lX
 5 stars 1984: Camel - Pressure Points - Live in Concert -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5BFJgXr2uDDJTT-64OuQLvOo3oH47D2l" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5BFJgXr2uDDJTT-64OuQLvOo3oH47D2l
 4 stars 1991: Camel - Dust and Dreams -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aHHd0iIl6M" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aHHd0iIl6M
 4 stars 1995: Camel - Harbour of Tears -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zrh-PzFdu8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zrh-PzFdu8
 5 stars 1999: Camel - Rajaz -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbbAtWt9NH2_fWqOZdxUewUtx5Sx7Llny" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbbAtWt9NH2_fWqOZdxUewUtx5Sx7Llny
 4 stars 2002: Camel - A Nod and a Wink -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3KNGtTa3WA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3KNGtTa3WA



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Posted By: Gentle and Giant
Date Posted: March 10 2020 at 12:19
Good stuff Paul Clap


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 10 2020 at 12:43
Originally posted by Gentle and Giant Gentle and Giant wrote:

Good stuff Paul Clap
 
Thanks! The tricky part was listing all of the albums in the right order at the same time as telling the story of Camel. Smile
 
CAMEL - Camel (1973)
 


Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: March 10 2020 at 16:12
A fun read, Paul. Initially thought you needed comments on Camel's masterpiece, but I'll save that for another time. 😆

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“Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.”


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 10 2020 at 16:30
Originally posted by Squonk19 Squonk19 wrote:

A fun read, Paul. Initially thought you needed comments on Camel's masterpiece, but I'll save that for another time. 😆
 
Thanks! Moonmadness is my favourite Camel album and this is really a Camel appreciation thread in all but name. Smile
 
CAMEL - Mirage (1974)
 
Side One
 
 
Side Two
 


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: March 11 2020 at 01:16
Moonmadness is where it's at! I even have a Camel Moonmadness t-shirt from England!

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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 11 2020 at 02:42
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Moonmadness is where it's at! I even have a Camel Moonmadness t-shirt from England!
Moonmadness won comfortably in my Camel albums poll from October last year.
 
4 [8.70%]
12 [26.09%]
7 [15.22%]
15 [32.61%]
3 [6.52%]
1 [2.17%]
1 [2.17%]
0 [0.00%]
0 [0.00%]
0 [0.00%]
1 [2.17%]
2 [4.35%]
0 [0.00%]
0 [0.00%]
0 [0.00%]


Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: March 12 2020 at 08:46
Mirage is my go-to Camel LP but the first four are all marvelous!!!

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The Prog Corner


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 13 2020 at 17:39
Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

Mirage is my go-to Camel LP but the first four are all marvelous!!!
 
My Top 5 Camel songs are all on the same album: Moonmadness Smile 
 
1. Aristillus/Song Within a Song
 
 
2. Chord Change
 
 
3. Spirit of the Water
 
 
4. Another Night
 
 
5. Air Born
 
 
6. Lunar Sea
 


Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: April 04 2020 at 07:04
Camel have that magical balance between being tastefully mellow and more demanding complex parts. Works for me.


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 06 2020 at 01:43
Moonmadness was the last Camel album I really enjoyed. It's probably joint fave with Mirage. The first 4 were classic prog overall. I think they lost something special after that, and their jazzy outputs became like bland musical wallpaper for the rest of the decade. I don't mind some of the later albums.

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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 10 2021 at 08:31
Camel Albums
 
 4 stars 1973: Camel - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzB7y3mSUPLp2mZTAR5S1t3w" rel="nofollow -  1974: Mirage - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzDw40vAYBTtPQ_MBkq8GZrU" rel="nofollow -  1975: The Snow Goose - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzDFDbN3rhYv8iQY6sCSbJ7W" rel="nofollow -  1976: Moonmadness - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzAuzCNKvILcuijiFjsEX0FT" rel="nofollow -  1977: Rain Dances -   https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzA61ssVH79IZ9AzaUir0-qr" rel="nofollow -  1978: A Live Record - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzAw6XHHlvuiapCLsiuCA9KV" rel="nofollow -  1978: Breathless - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzCBDtE8IeGTn_wNd3IY_NbJ" rel="nofollow -  1979: I Can See Your House from Here - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzALMhPUYVKwEzm-Xe0PQw0J" rel="nofollow -  1981: Nude - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzCuEWZqA-Xhs87LFawFMC7o" rel="nofollow -  1982: The Single Factor - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzA4UbXORkdZhDFqMv03a2_s" rel="nofollow -  1984: Stationary Traveller - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzDXkjpukGnhfLIXbDX0wSNS" rel="nofollow -  1984: Pressure Points - Live in Concert - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzDpZBnHgTSU5qr7JG4idu2q" rel="nofollow -  1991: Dust and Dreams - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzA0R_ah5h09_-qRXFeMrURo" rel="nofollow -  1993: Never Let Go - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzD5y1mXUuvpdyzFfptfBhA3" rel="nofollow -  1995: Harbour of Tears - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzCeSTiQNUrlHUORwP0olfEs" rel="nofollow -  1999: Rajaz -   https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzARTviovoV6j_fJSYW_iUOt" rel="nofollow -  2000: Gods of Light - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzAYlQgQ926M9Bc3_ud1PWZp" rel="nofollow -  2002: A Nod and a Wink -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzBe5YsJ6bWzVab1LNOuKJPs" rel="nofollow -


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 08 2023 at 03:16
YouTube links can be as nebulous as a desert Mirage which blow away on the wind like Dust and Dreams, so here they are again, all freshly repaired and replaced with A Nod and a Wink towards a Camel album that's making it's first appearance on YouTube in a long long time. I've also taken the liberty of downgrading the Nude album to a 4-star rating, so I'm Breathless with anticipation to see what you think, but if you disagree, then just put it down to a touch of Moonmadness. Smile

 4 stars 1973: Camel - Camel -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3iRBCmFzEGg8QuVyfAUr05ilgjPWUH-5" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3iRBCmFzEGg8QuVyfAUr05ilgjPWUH-5
 5 stars 1974: Camel - Mirage -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4-oCE2y-CrE1LA1_zjHWcWP82PPCngaH" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4-oCE2y-CrE1LA1_zjHWcWP82PPCngaH
 4 stars 1975: Camel - The Snow Goose -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n-E4oCUFb3iPPuQZ3IAh_9LpBh76MJYQU" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n-E4oCUFb3iPPuQZ3IAh_9LpBh76MJYQU
 5 stars 1976: Camel - Moonmadness -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nyGHrNV07De1VA_TDOmy8b8V9hdj8yxS8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nyGHrNV07De1VA_TDOmy8b8V9hdj8yxS8
 5 stars 1977: Cemel - Rain Dances -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lACysOFHgWHq-1HaQPQl6Dat2pKlp774U" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lACysOFHgWHq-1HaQPQl6Dat2pKlp774U
 5 stars 1978: Cemel - A Live Record -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m4-adu0ifiojsm-vz-PLACrpKN_AwxEXI" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m4-adu0ifiojsm-vz-PLACrpKN_AwxEXI
 4 stars 1978: Camel - Breathless -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvsYXqtYjMYfMMJVy2zovBFi_KFCnZZTT" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvsYXqtYjMYfMMJVy2zovBFi_KFCnZZTT
 4 stars 1979: Camel - I Can See Your House from Here -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mY9QnwL06xz0RACCIkp0pTOrgDBaev5Sw" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mY9QnwL06xz0RACCIkp0pTOrgDBaev5Sw
 4 stars 1981: Camel - Nude -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kIekOFMMIc9WnSq2QpGuwZcwwaAIa5Pv8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kIekOFMMIc9WnSq2QpGuwZcwwaAIa5Pv8
 3 stars 1982: Camel - The Single Factor -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPmo393DXHIcCQzz57AUxynXHuBqs9FdM" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPmo393DXHIcCQzz57AUxynXHuBqs9FdM
 4 stars 1984: Camel - Stationary Traveller -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVoHLI_LXfji959PEEdKmuvju9WaAg-lX" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVoHLI_LXfji959PEEdKmuvju9WaAg-lX
 5 stars 1984: Camel - Pressure Points - Live in Concert -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5BFJgXr2uDDJTT-64OuQLvOo3oH47D2l" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5BFJgXr2uDDJTT-64OuQLvOo3oH47D2l
 4 stars 1991: Camel - Dust and Dreams -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aHHd0iIl6M" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aHHd0iIl6M
 4 stars 1995: Camel - Harbour of Tears -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zrh-PzFdu8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zrh-PzFdu8
 5 stars 1999: Camel - Rajaz -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbbAtWt9NH2_fWqOZdxUewUtx5Sx7Llny" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbbAtWt9NH2_fWqOZdxUewUtx5Sx7Llny
 4 stars 2002: Camel - A Nod and a Wink -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3KNGtTa3WA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3KNGtTa3WA


Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: August 08 2023 at 03:46
A superb album. Always loved it! Smile


Posted By: O666
Date Posted: August 08 2023 at 07:22
I dont know why some people ignore RAJAZ easily. This is a great album.

I am a Camel huge fan and IMO they deserve more than what they got from Prog fans


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 08 2023 at 07:23
Originally posted by Octopus II Octopus II wrote:

A superb album. Always loved it! Smile

Moonmadness was the first Camel album I ever bought and one of my earliest prog albums, nearly forty years before I started buying Genesis and Pink Floyd albums. Smile


Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: August 08 2023 at 10:47
I was a late bloomer and I didn't hear Moonmadness until the year of 1980 when I bought it in Philadelphia at a record shop called Third Street Jazz And Rock . Up to that point I had been listening to Mirage which I bought in 74' as an import on the Deram label.

Moonmadness intrigued me and I especially liked side 2 of the LP which featured the three tracks "Another Night", "Airborne" and "Lunar Sea". I was living in a kind of retreat house by the woods during that time. I was making good money traveling the road in the music business and I was able to live off that nest egg in a retreat house where I blasted Moonmadness in the evenings. 😃..beautiful times


Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: August 08 2023 at 14:59
their best no doubt !
Spoiled in its USA ugly cover art .... far from the sheer, diaphanous pastel colors and drawings of the european original


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 08 2023 at 15:59
Originally posted by mellotronwave mellotronwave wrote:

their best no doubt !
Spoiled in its USA ugly cover art .... far from the sheer, diaphanous pastel colors and drawings of the european original

is that it?


Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: August 08 2023 at 17:26
Camel, surely one of my favorite all-time bands although I disagree on your album rating, especially Rain Dances and Rajaz, except for Moonmadness. 


Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: August 08 2023 at 17:36
An album I loved when it came out but only ended up only playing Side 2 (never Side 1) for a decade or so. Loved the album cover. Love "Lunar Sea" to this day. The rest can be nice occasionally. 

A band of which I usually liked their music but never loved more than a couple songs from any album. I liked them enough to keep collecting their albums through the 1980s but have only gone back to listen to their 1990s and later releases lately--with only Rajaz impressing me much. 



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Drew Fisher
https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/


Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: August 08 2023 at 17:39
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by mellotronwave mellotronwave wrote:

their best no doubt !
Spoiled in its USA ugly cover art .... far from the sheer, diaphanous pastel colors and drawings of the european original


is that it?

it is Cristi, thanks for the research and the post


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 23 2023 at 10:44
The Story of Camel - Lunacy and Cigarettes (2003 documentary)


All alone and all together
Every day, come what may
By the time we find each other
We can live, we can die
And nothing stops the river as it flows by...

Peter Bardens (1944-2002) Broken Heart


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 23 2023 at 11:00
Great lp...probably my fave by them but Mirage is close.
Strange they changed the Moonmadness cover for the US market...thats how my cd art looks ,but I have the US vinyl version art.Stern Smile


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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
Haquin


Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: November 23 2023 at 11:08
Has anybody bought the box set? 



Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: December 17 2023 at 07:35
The first four Camel albums are a gas, but Moonmadness is the last one I really dig.  Their sound shifted for Rain Dances, maybe it was in production or the tech of the time, but I just don't get into them much after 1976. 

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I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 17 2023 at 14:05
Originally posted by Intruder Intruder wrote:

The first four Camel albums are a gas, but Moonmadness is the last one I really dig.  Their sound shifted for Rain Dances, maybe it was in production or the tech of the time, but I just don't get into them much after 1976. 

You're missing out on one of Camel's best albums if you lost interest in them after 1976. Smile

5 stars 1999: Camel - Rajaz -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbbAtWt9NH2_fWqOZdxUewUtx5Sx7Llny" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbbAtWt9NH2_fWqOZdxUewUtx5Sx7Llny




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