Genesis - VH-1 Behind the Music

 

They have one for about 4-5 albums. I liked it (and the idea of this thread - finally!)

I'm watching a Partridge Family documentary at the moment, which is about as far from Prog-Rock as you can possibly get.  

 

In that case, you may be interested to know I just posted The Partridge Family documentary in the General Music Discussion forum.

I never see anyone suggesting prog-docs.

Well, these are not free on YouTube, but they are worth every penny: http://https://www.progdocs.com/" rel="nofollow - http://https://www.progdocs.com/

Four have been released so far (plus the special editions, which are mostly live footage) in this Romantic Warriors series, and more are planned. The most recent release, Krautrock, is the first of a trilogy. The filmmakers are very good friends of ours, and take a lot of pride in their work. Highly recommended!

100% agree 

 

I'm looking forward to watching all of those Genesis mini-documentaries again on how each album was made. I'll go right back to the beginning and watch the album docs in sequence. I just realised that's Phil Collins in your avatar photo, back in the days when he used to have a full head of hair. I don't know who that is standing next to him though.  

Personally, I would like to see more respect for the MUSIC itself, than the "stars". It's nice to see Triumvirat listed, but it's like ... there is no other music out there?

I, honestly, do not need any more thoughts or documentaries on YES, GENESIS and ELP ... or even KING CRIMSON .... for crying out loud ... are we that insane that we can only appreciate a handful of bands and ignore the rest?

I would be more interested in one of these for PFM, BANCO, PETER HAMMILL/VDGG, than I would in any of these listed and even Tony V talking about Bowie ... please ... enough!

Heck, a VH-1 type of thing about France, would be awesome. One about Spain would be just as good ... but we have this funny idea that they are not good because they are copies (good luck on that one!!!), and did not sell a million copies of an album ... the injustice this does to the music itself, is simply the worst horror movie ever! And even more HECK ... the thing in GERMANY was not just about music ... the "krautrock" thing in there was also about film, theater, literature, but getting educated is not a part of PA's (and the fan's) principles?

Thanks!

An interesting documentary of Wobbler creating, recording, and editing the album "Rites at Dawn". This is part one. I think there are like 20 different parts, so you'll have to search for them in YouTube. What amazes me is how they created such a gorgeous album from such a low-budget production studio (i.e. a lap top recording in an old run-down farmhouse).

^ But Wobbler is not British Prog-Rock.

This is also a bit off-topic as it is no longer available on youtube (saw it there years ago).  I saw a very good documentary about Robert Wyatt called "Free Will And Testament: The Robert Wyatt Story", which is a BBC Four production.

There was also the BBC 4 production, Prog Rock Britannia: An Observation in Three Movements, but I think I watched that on the BBC iPlayer (no longer available there, nor can I now subscribe to iPlayer for video programmes outside of the UK).

The description from https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00g8tfv" rel="nofollow - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00g8tfv

BBC 4 wrote: Documentary about progressive music and the generation of bands that were involved, from the international success stories of Yes, Genesis, ELP, King Crimson and Jethro Tull to the trials and tribulations of lesser-known bands such as Caravan and Egg. The film is structured in three parts, charting the birth, rise and decline of a movement famed for complex musical structures, weird time signatures, technical virtuosity and strange, and quintessentially English, literary influences. It looks at the psychedelic pop scene that gave birth to progressive rock in the late 1960s, the golden age of progressive music in the early 1970s, complete with drum solos and gatefold record sleeves, and the over-ambition, commercialisation and eventual fall from grace of this rarefied musical experiment at the hands of punk in 1977. Contributors include Robert Wyatt, Mike Oldfield, Pete Sinfield, Rick Wakeman, Phil Collins, Arthur Brown, Carl Palmer and Ian Anderson.

It's not on youtube in full (one can find a playlist) but it is streaming on Vimeo in better quality: https://vimeo.com/333453299" rel="nofollow - https://vimeo.com/333453299

 

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presdoug wrote: my mini documentary on Triumvirat I removed as they are not British; sorry, I thought the thread was for prog documentaries in general

Awww.... Is it on Youtube? Love Triumvirat. They always seem to get sl*g.ed over for their similarities to ELP but I found them to be more melodic and less derivative of classical music.

 

Sorry.  My thread was titled "Prog-Rock Documentaries" to begin with, but then I had second thoughts and tagged "British" onto the beginning of the thread title.

Pink Floyd - The Story of "Wish You Were Here"

 

 

I have twice the number of albums/cd's of English/British folks that you do, or will ever know!

I only have a bias against the rock press that continually keeps hurting "progressive music" because it can only kiss the as$ fo 5 or so bands, and a couple of other favorites, when there are hundreds and hundreds of other folks that are just as good, if not better.

My days of "progressive", btw, started with the HARVEST label in England ... and I had everyone of those artists listed in the "ingredients" in that Cereal Box Inner Sleeve (copy of it on the Hipgnosis book), and they were all far out ... and totally different.

So take your anti-Moshkito's bias to the outhouse please.

 

 

 

GENESIS on the making of "Nursery Cryme"

 

 

Read his book ... it's 10000000000 times better and it has some of the tastiest material ... and my favorite of all ... the one I mention that drives many folks crazy here ... the one on Syd Barrett!

... only the madmen know .... (Steppenwolf)

 

GENESIS on the making of "Selling England by the Pound"

 

 

..... actually, we were talking about Robert Wyatt's book and documentary ... his book DIFFERENT EVERY TIME is fantastic ... with one very big problem ... it will drive "progressive rock/music" folks out of town completely ... specially when you read the comment on Syd Barrett.

It just bothers me that a lot of folks here do not like to credit "improvisation" and "free form" and music that is beyond the scope of notes, and various staves of music ... people that can take sounds and make music out of it ... even going as out of form as Faust and other sound effects folks in the early days ... the fear is incredible ... because it's as if those sounds "don't talk", and tell you what they are about! Wtf for? Aren't the sounds enough to tell you what they are that you have to be told?

And I think that folks forget how much this kind of thinking has helped music develop in the 20th century, going even as far back as Stravinsky ... it's just astounding, really!

 

 

 

Nice ... very enjoyable, although I do not think that it added anything to how I felt and thought about HAWKWIND. I do think/find that the thing between Nick and Dave is sad, and would love to see it resolved before they depart, but in the end, sometimes, bitterness lives on, and people can't get past that.

It was nice to see/hear Lemmy talk about it all, and saying the things that he did, which made the whole thing stronger and better, and yeah, I was there during SPACE RITUAL, and saw that show in Santa Monica, I think in late 1972 or early 1973 ... can't tell you exactly right now ... and it still is one show that is imprinted in my memory, and something that I would love to "direct" on stage (I did something similar later with a play!), because the ability of rock music to liven up the audience and their view is second to none. SECOND TO NONE ... but sadly, too many bands do not understand/recognize what that means and even Michael Moorcock said that ... 

Love this one ... now we need one on another free band that was quite next to Hawkwind on the free show circuit ... The Edgar Broughton Band ... and then another one on Roy Harper, before he leaves us.  Also interesting would be Kevin Ayres but I think that too many folks would want to relive his sleeping it off with someone else's wife ... which is really funny in some ways, because of all those folks in those days, EVERYONE was involved in that in one way or another!

 

 

 

 

Interview with Robert Wyatt on Canterbury Scene.