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Nautilus [UK] for Heavy Prog or Symphonic Prog?

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Topic: Nautilus [UK] for Heavy Prog or Symphonic Prog?
Posted By: progaardvark
Subject: Nautilus [UK] for Heavy Prog or Symphonic Prog?
Date Posted: August 07 2019 at 06:22
I hear a combination of heavy prog and symphonic prog in this band's music. I'm not sure which way to lean. Maybe Eclectic if there isn't enough to warrant Heavy or Symphonic?? Please do forward to a more appropriate team if you think any of my genre suggestions are not appropriate.

I have been unable to find an official page for the band (are they still together?) or a proper biography, but maybe a brief bio could be compiled from these sources:
Rate Your Music:  https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/nautilus_f2" rel="nofollow - https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/nautilus_f2
Discogs:  https://www.discogs.com/artist/2471097-Nautilus-15" rel="nofollow - https://www.discogs.com/artist/2471097-Nautilus-15
CDBaby:  https://store.cdbaby.com/Artist/Nautilus2" rel="nofollow - https://store.cdbaby.com/Artist/Nautilus2

Both of their albums are on Spotify:
What Colours the Sky in Your World (2004):  https://open.spotify.com/album/6l8vxkG7Z5cm2wLRieE3GX" rel="nofollow - https://open.spotify.com/album/6l8vxkG7Z5cm2wLRieE3GX
Fathom (2009):  https://open.spotify.com/album/6EWA5ZALl4VmTxO2kg2jcy" rel="nofollow - https://open.spotify.com/album/6EWA5ZALl4VmTxO2kg2jcy

And YouTube:
What Colours the Sky in Your World (2004):  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lOf-VRYsOZFizsim-tiKMXu0jcU8ZYlIY" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lOf-VRYsOZFizsim-tiKMXu0jcU8ZYlIY
Fathom (2009):  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKhR55TSNS0&list=OLAK5uy_m0W4fePjX5Xuu1PCXlwu1lw7fN8eKA7sg" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKhR55TSNS0&list=OLAK5uy_m0W4fePjX5Xuu1PCXlwu1lw7fN8eKA7sg

Thank you for your consideration of this suggestion. Please forgive me if this has been proposed before. I tried my best to find another proposal, but was unable to find any.


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Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: August 08 2019 at 04:55
The Heavy Team will take it, while there's some symphonic here, it's a bit too heavy and dark to fit in symphonic. We'll start here, maybe eclectic


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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: August 08 2019 at 06:08
^OK, thanks very much for checking it out. 

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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: January 29 2024 at 17:44
Stumbled upon this old thread, and found to my amazement that the band still aren't here.

So I investigated further and found this:

https://awesomeprog.com/artists/14076" rel="nofollow - Nautilus
Rejected
Yes https://awesomeprog.com/users/rdtprog" rel="nofollow - rdtprog
No https://awesomeprog.com/users/aapatsos" rel="nofollow - aapatsos
History
over 4 years ago  https://awesomeprog.com/users/rdtprog" rel="nofollow - rdtprog  set section to New.
over 4 years ago  https://awesomeprog.com/users/rdtprog" rel="nofollow - rdtprog  voted Yes.
almost 4 years ago  https://awesomeprog.com/users/aapatsos" rel="nofollow - aapatsos  voted No.
almost 4 years ago  https://awesomeprog.com/users/rdtprog" rel="nofollow - rdtprog  set section to Rejected.

That has to be an injustice, surely? The band is prog, through and through - both albums!

Here are a few opinions from others around the Web who are far more knowledgeable about such matters than myself (including the original poster, who is now a member of the Crossover, Symphonic and RPI teams, so obviously knows what he's talking about).

Apps79 (aka psarros, former member of our Neo Prog team) on https://rateyourmusic.com/music-review/apps79/nautilus_f2/what_colours_the_sky_in_your_world_/34156771" rel="nofollow -

Good, intricate and dark-sounding instrumental Prog for fans of KING CRIMSON or Scandinavian Prog in the vein of ANEKDOTEN or LANDBERK. Warmly recommended."

Henry Schneider, on http://expose.org/index.php/articles/display/nautilus-what-colours-the-sky-in-your-world-6.html" rel="nofollow - Exposé.org : 'What Colours the Sky in Your World?'

"Nautilus is a UK quartet of guitars, keyboards, drums, and bass. They play excellent instrumental music that is a melodic version of mid-period King Crimson, if you know what I mean. King Crimson can be very edgy and difficult to listen to at times. Nautilus has learned from the masters, smoothed these dark edges to create a sound only reminiscent of KC while injecting their music a unique blend of originality, inventiveness, and musicianship. The guitars, keys, drums, and bass complement each other as the music changes mood and pace throughout each track. There are lots of interesting musical ideas popping up all over the place. This CD is quite an enjoyable listen and Nautilus is definitely a neo-prog band to watch. Since it has taken a while for Nautilus to submit their CD to Exposé for review, it may now be difficult and/or expensive to purchase a new copy."

Andy Thompson on https://www.planetmellotron.com/samn1.htm#:~:text=this%20site.%20Recommended.-,Nautilus%20%C2%A0%28UK%29,-What%20Colours%20the" rel="nofollow -

Cyclops' Malcolm Parker advised the band to add vocals to 2008's Fathom, as this apparently bumps up sales. Not feeling up to tackling the job themselves, someone brought forth '70s pop bloke, bit-part actor and friend of/collaborator with Freddie Mercury, Peter Straker to do the job. Well, he can sing, but whether he was actually the right man for the job is a matter for conjecture; his voice is rather too close to Broadway for my liking, stirring unwelcome memories of Rick Wakeman's taste in singers. I'm not sure if it's the unwelcome vocal intrusions, but the material seems less punchy this time round, with the honourable exception of (instrumental) closer Cadaver, which isn't to say the rest of it's bad, just possibly not as good as previously. More Blewitt samplotron, notably the strident strings on Heart Of Darkness and the background choirs on a few tracks."

KinesisCD on https://www.discogs.com/release/5653556-Nautilus-Fathom#:~:text=Add%20Review-,KinesisCD,-Feb%2020%2C%202022" rel="nofollow -

There was another brief thread featuring the band in January 2007 here:  https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=33418" rel="nofollow - (GFT was the mail order department of Cyclops Records).

With the Heavy Prog team consisting of just two members at the time of the evaluation, a single 'no' vote was always going to throw this band out, and I don't consider this to have been a fair evaluation at all. There seems to have been a fair delay between the first 'yes' vote being cast and the second 'no', so I'm left wondering if this wasn't a very close decision anyway in the end.

There are full samples of both albums on YouTube and Spotify, so although there is no fresh material available to meet the normal PA re-evaluation criteria, I'm asking if the team could perhaps take another look at this one (or maybe see if Eclectic might consider them...?) Embarrassed

Edit: Here's the first part of the apps79 review of the first album on RYM, which will be useful for the biography if it is agreed to allow another evaluation to take place:

"The saga of this British Prog band from Canterbury begins in late 2003 with its formation by keyboardist Paul Blewitt, drummer Darryl Finch, guitarist Andy Challinor and bassist Rob Tyson. The rehearsals for the recording of a full-length album start in January 2004 at Courtfield Recorders in Ashbury, Kent, with material written by Blewitt and Challinor. The band would spent 8 months in the studio and finished the recordings before the end of summer 04', eventually their debut ''What Colours the Sky in Your World?'' was released the same year on Cyclops."



Nautilus on AwesomeProg:  https://awesomeprog.com/artists/14076" rel="nofollow - https://awesomeprog.com/artists/14076 .
Nautilus on Proggnosis, where they say: Genre: SubGenre - Style: Influenced by King Crimson Red Era (Prog): https://www.proggnosis.com/Artist/7574" rel="nofollow - https://www.proggnosis.com/Artist/7574 .
Nautilus on Soundcloud, from where the above https://i1.sndcdn.com/avatars-000033591592-uvl4y9-t500x500.jpg" rel="nofollow - band photo is taken:  https://soundcloud.com/nautilus-uk" rel="nofollow - https://soundcloud.com/nautilus-uk .


Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: January 30 2024 at 01:27
Ok we will evaluate them again with 2 new members onboard.


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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: January 30 2024 at 13:46
^ Much appreciated Louis, thanks! Thumbs Up


Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: April 14 2024 at 09:13
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=12707" rel="nofollow - Added to Eclectic Prog .


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