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Topic: women's soccer world championshipPosted By: BaldJean
Subject: women's soccer world championship
Date Posted: June 08 2019 at 10:13
Friede and I just watched the second match of the women's soccer world championship, Germany vs. China (Germany won 1-0). the Chinese women had quite a robust style of play; there were a lot of fouls, sometimes real brutal ones, by the Chinese.
after one of these fouls one of the German players said something to one of the Chinese women, and this was shown in slow motion. though there was no sound to that scene it was clear what the German player said (at least for anybody who speaks German well). she said: "willst du mich verarschen"?
this phrase is hard to translate because there are many meanings to it which all come through at the same time in German. literally the phrase means "are you trying to arse me?"; the meanings that are in there are "are you trying to make a fool out of me?", "are you trying to deceive me?" or "are you f**king around with me?". Friede and I really had to laugh when we saw that slow motion.
the commentators in the studio made a few remarks about that scene after the game too, including quoting the phrase; it really was obvious what she had said. the phrase is very colloquial and generally only used when you are really pissed off at someone
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Replies: Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: June 08 2019 at 11:28
Cheering for Norway!
Hey, Hey,
get out of our way
Because today is our day,
We are Norway, We are Norway
We got Leprous, we got Wobbler
we play world class women's soccer!
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 09 2019 at 06:38
Hi,
Should be an interesting series of games, and we will know a bit more after the USA plays, tomorrow I think ... Brazil is today and many articles are already saying that the Brazilians are falling apart and that their team will end as Marta leaves and retires.
I think that Sweden is dangerous, specially with their coach that previously ran the American team, and Germany is also always a problem, and I would not rule out China, although they have not been the power that they used to be.
I'm thinking that we will know more, and better after a game or two ... and see where the surprises lie.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 10 2019 at 01:39
Good win for England yesterday, although by all accounts not a championship winning performance overall. I don't know if the implication there, by those commentating was "It's only Scotland, after all" I hope not, but then I don't know enough about football to comment further.
The standard, to me, looked high throughout.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 10 2019 at 01:56
Was rooting for Scotland. Next time.
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: June 10 2019 at 05:17
^ Ditto. The penalty decision awarded against them was ridiculously harsh. (Yes, the defender's arm was away from the side of her body but no-one can adopt the pogo starting position to block a cross ffs) Quite a few contenders on that pitch for man of the match...
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 11 2019 at 09:23
Sad news for the German team: Their top-player Dzsenifer Marozsan, one
of the very best female soccer players in the world, broke the middle
toe of her left foot in the beginning of Germany's match against China.
She played until the end, but this serious injury explains why she was
not as good as usual in this match. it is highly unlikely, nigh
impossible, that she will be able to play in the rest of the tournament.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 11 2019 at 12:09
Kudos to the US-team for claiming payment equal to their male counterparts. Considering the fact that, being the current world champions, they are obviously the better team, they more than deserve that.
Equal payment for women is a problem in all areas of occupation, not just in sport. The problem is that it is mostly men who decide about these payments.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 11 2019 at 13:22
^
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 11 2019 at 13:23
BaldFriede wrote:
Sad news for the German team: Their top-player Dzsenifer Marozsan, one
of the very best female soccer players in the world, broke the middle
toe of her left foot in the beginning of Germany's match against China.
She played until the end, but this serious injury explains why she was
not as good as usual in this match. it is highly unlikely, nigh
impossible, that she will be able to play in the rest of the tournament.
I've broken toes in karate and they are extremely painful, but very recoverable. She should be fine next season.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 11 2019 at 15:06
Holy sh*t, the US women beat Thailand 13-0, setting a new record for a female world championship match. The previous record was held by Germany with 11-0 against Argentina in 2007.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 11 2019 at 16:22
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 11 2019 at 16:29
I am always torn between 2 camps for such world cups. one half of me
routes for the USA, my former home country, the other half roots for
Germany
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: June 11 2019 at 16:50
I only watched the First Half, but I'm not surprised that it ended 13-0...
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 12 2019 at 07:22
BaldFriede wrote:
...
Equal payment for women is a problem in all areas of occupation, not just in sport. The problem is that it is mostly men who decide about these payments.
I sympathize and believe that these women should get paid a lot more ... and in fact, players like the Men's National Team (in America), would have to donate 20% of their salaries to the women, for their low ranking and absolutely ridiculous and lousy play in the past 3 to 4 years!
I now think the USWNT can bet the men 5-3, or 5-2 ... because at the very least, the women can pass the ball and shoot ... the men, it feels like the old days in Victorian England ... the men leave the room to go out and have their smokes! And ignore the women until they can get laid, of course!
The whole thing is sick ... and the US Women deserve more ... their record speaks for itself, as it does the number of magnificent players ... not to mention others from around the world ... that also deserve more than just a kick in the butt ... how about the girl from Norway was it? (... saddest thing I have ever seen, and their media don't give a crap ... guess who runs the media!)
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 12 2019 at 07:26
King of Loss wrote:
I only watched the First Half, but I'm not surprised that it ended 13-0...
The real scary thing is seeing in the first 10 minutes, the US had like 6 or 7 shots on Thailand ... and you knew this game was gonna get busted silly!
I'm not sure there is any team right now, that wants to come anywhere near the American team.
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: June 16 2019 at 08:41
The overall standard of play has been very impressive but there are two areas where the ladies have much to learn:
1 - The goalkeeping is awful to the point of slapstick, notwithstanding there are some excellent reflex shot stoppers (Argentina's Vanina Correa aside, who is superb and also commands her penalty area)
2 - Apart a very elite core of players, they don't set their bodies correctly before shooting i.e. they don't place their weight over the ball but behind it which leads to lots of shots being tantamount to scooped 'chips' that usually fly too high
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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: June 16 2019 at 14:41
ExittheLemming wrote:
The overall standard of play has been very impressive but there are two areas where the ladies have much to learn:
1 - The goalkeeping is awful to the point of slapstick, notwithstanding there are some excellent reflex shot stoppers (Argentina's Vanina Correa aside, who is superb and also commands her penalty area)
2 - Apart a very elite core of players, they don't set their bodies correctly before shooting i.e. they don't place their weight over the ball but behind it which leads to lots of shots being tantamount to scooped 'chips' that usually fly too high
The Dallas boys ( under 15 years old) team beat Team USA 5-2. Girls just wanna have fun.
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 16 2019 at 18:27
ExittheLemming wrote:
...
1 - The goalkeeping is awful to the point of slapstick, notwithstanding there are some excellent reflex shot stoppers (Argentina's Vanina Correa aside, who is superb and also commands her penalty area)
...
You have to watch the USA/Chile game for seeing one of the most amazing goalkeeping exhibitions EVER.
The score might have been about 6-0 were it not for her, and to the point where at least one American player was not going to get through ... period. Quite insane, and I think that many folks hope to ever have one game like that, let alone do it on the world's biggest stage.
Chile actually played well, despite being under pressure all game long and to come out with that score is a bit of ... you know ... one of those poetic justice kinds of thing ... but they could not move forward and their midfield was apparently more set on defending than they were on moving the ball forward.
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Posted By: USAGirl
Date Posted: June 17 2019 at 10:59
ExittheLemming wrote:
The overall standard of play has been very impressive but there are two areas where the ladies have much to learn:
1 - The goalkeeping is awful to the point of slapstick, notwithstanding there are some excellent reflex shot stoppers (Argentina's Vanina Correa aside, who is superb and also commands her penalty area)
2 - Apart a very elite core of players, they don't set their bodies correctly before shooting i.e. they don't place their weight over the ball but behind it which leads to lots of shots being tantamount to scooped 'chips' that usually fly too high
While it has to be admitted that there is some truly abysmal female goal keeping there have been some very remarkable exceptions. One is former German goalkeeper Nadine Angerer who not only did not concede a single goal in the 2007 world championships (this included saving a penalty shot by the legendary Brazilian player Marta in the finals), she was also named female European soccer player of the year by the UEFA and female world soccer player of the year by the FIFA that same year. No other goalkeeper, male or female, was ever given that award (of course for their sex respectively).
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 18 2019 at 14:01
BaldJean wrote:
I am always torn between 2 camps for such world cups. one half of me
routes for the USA, my former home country, the other half roots for
Germany
I must have missed that! Where are you from originally?
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 18 2019 at 14:02
BaldJean wrote:
Friede and I just watched the second match of the women's soccer world championship, Germany vs. China (Germany won 1-0). the Chinese women had quite a robust style of play; there were a lot of fouls, sometimes real brutal ones, by the Chinese.
after one of these fouls one of the German players said something to one of the Chinese women, and this was shown in slow motion. though there was no sound to that scene it was clear what the German player said (at least for anybody who speaks German well). she said: "willst du mich verarschen"?
this phrase is hard to translate because there are many meanings to it which all come through at the same time in German. literally the phrase means "are you trying to arse me?"; the meanings that are in there are "are you trying to make a fool out of me?", "are you trying to deceive me?" or "are you f**king around with me?". Friede and I really had to laugh when we saw that slow motion.
the commentators in the studio made a few remarks about that scene after the game too, including quoting the phrase; it really was obvious what she had said. the phrase is very colloquial and generally only used when you are really pissed off at someone
Glad you're hear, I mean here, to relate these tidbits.
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 18 2019 at 14:05
verslibre wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
I am always torn between 2 camps for such world cups. one half of me
routes for the USA, my former home country, the other half roots for
Germany
I must have missed that! Where are you from originally?
I am originally from Oakland, CA. I came to Germany in 1993
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 18 2019 at 14:59
BaldJean wrote:
verslibre wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
I am always torn between 2 camps for such world cups. one half of me
routes for the USA, my former home country, the other half roots for
Germany
I must have missed that! Where are you from originally?
I am originally from Oakland, CA. I came to Germany in 1993
You grew up in Oaktown? I'm SoCal born and raised, but I have tons of family, I mean tons, scattered around the Bay Area: Oakland, Piedmont, San Leandro, Alameda, Newark, Redwood Shores and also down in San Jose. I don't get up there as often now.
Maybe we stood next to each other on the BART 30 years ago and never knew it.
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 18 2019 at 15:06
I studied at Berkeley
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 22 2019 at 08:16
Well, the preliminary round is over, and we are down to sixteen teams now. These are the pairings:
Germany - Nigeria
Norway - Australia
England - Cameroon
France - Brazil
Spain - USA
Sweden - Canada
Italy - China
Netherlands - Japan
Nice to see that two African teams advanced, but I expect them to be kicked out in the round of 16. Germany and England are among the favourites for the title, alongside with France, Brazil and the USA.
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: June 22 2019 at 09:02
France and Brazil should be hell of a match!
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 22 2019 at 09:03
King of Loss wrote:
France and Brazil should be hell of a match!
Netherlands - Japan too.
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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: June 23 2019 at 06:05
Norway had me sitting on my teacups. Whew, that was close!
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 23 2019 at 06:33
Norway - Australia was the best match so far
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: June 23 2019 at 22:27
That was a good match between Brazil and France. Looking forward to the Spain vs. US match tomorrow!
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 24 2019 at 12:08
well, the USA won 2-1 against Spain, but this victory was anything but convincing. both goals were scored with penalty kicks, and the second penalty decision was pretty borderline. this performance will certainly not be enough to beat France
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: June 24 2019 at 12:20
BaldJean wrote:
well, the USA won 2-1 against Spain, but this victory was anything but convincing. both goals were scored with penalty kicks, and the second penalty decision was pretty borderline. this performance will certainly not be enough to beat France
I think you are underestimating Spain. They have some good young players on that team. I think France US will be a very tight game with few goals.
Posted By: TenYearsAfter
Date Posted: June 24 2019 at 12:29
Tomorrow is be the day that I will watch The Netherlands for the first time this tournament. My former hometown The Hague was one of the first cities in The Netherlands were women soccer was stimulated, since The Eighties, and the Dutch coach Sarina Wiegman is from The Hague. In 2017 she became European Champion with the Dutch soccer women. We are now #7 on the FIFA list, I think one of the serious outsiders, Germany and the USA are favourites. But we have some great players who play in the best competitions in the world (like Spain, UK and Germany). Tomorrow we will see how they handle the pressure and expectations, against the tough Japanese women.
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: June 25 2019 at 16:20
7 European teams into the Quarterfinals and the US team! Should be an exciting quarterfinal round! Especially the France vs US match!
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 25 2019 at 16:30
the Netherlands were extremely lucky; Japan deserved to win. the new hand penalty rule sucks
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: June 27 2019 at 18:26
US vs France tomorrow! Highly anticipated match should be great!
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 28 2019 at 13:11
an early goal for the USA, but the French team really invited it. Friede and I couldn't believe how the French defense positioned itself for that free kick of Megan Rapinoe. the goal was to be expected after such a catastrophic defense mistake
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: June 28 2019 at 14:56
US advances! I don't know about that handball but I think it was definitely a handball by the US player. Very good match though.
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 28 2019 at 14:57
well, the US team advances. the second goal for the US team was a defense mistake again; Megan Rapinoe was totally unmarked and scored her second goal of the match. the French team woke up too late, though the French goal was a nice header by 6'2'' tall French player Wendie Renard
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Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: June 29 2019 at 10:15
There are still a lot of folks in the USA who don't watch what we call soccer, and the rest of the world calls Football. I think it is gaining some traction with the younger generation. It is a very popular sport amongst high school girls, and the mums who drive their daughters across the state to matches are referred to as soccer moms. I have one foot in the USA and one foot in Europe. I find it somewhat amusing when my family members in Europe are going absolutely nuts over matches (texting like crazy), while my family members in the USA do not even know it's on the telly.
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 01 2019 at 19:08
England vs US tomorrow! Who thinks this will decide the winner of the whole thing? I think the US will win, but England will put up a good fight.
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 01 2019 at 19:21
I think Sweden may have a thing or two to say about premature coronations... extremely impressive against the Playboy.. I mean German team (God I love German women)... though at least the US if they make it to the final and face them.. they won't overlook them. Some payback will be wanted..
while the US is king... it ain't like men's basketball.. the US can and has lost.. the world ain't that far behind us.
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: July 02 2019 at 01:53
Should be a good game tonight. It has garnered quite a lot of interest in the UK, and I have especially enjoyed it, which has come as a pleasant surprise.
C'mon England!
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 02 2019 at 14:59
I'm not shocked by today's result. England had a chance, but they blew it. Terrible penalty by Houghton gave the win to the US. Let's see if either of the Netherlands or Sweden can beat the US team from repeating again!
Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: July 02 2019 at 15:13
Yep. They move on like a Tarkus juggernaut ... and yet few people in the US even know it.
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 06 2019 at 15:28
US vs the Netherlands tomorrow! Should be a cracker. Also, those who follow football, Brazil vs Peru as well along with US vs Mexico!
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 06 2019 at 17:26
I'm not normally a flag waver.. only when we are underdogs I suppose but hoping they win it all just so Rapinoe and Sue Bird can get further under Trump's very thin skin.
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 08 2019 at 10:59
^ Then you should be happy. Megan Rapinoe won the Womens World cup, along with the Golden Boot and the Golden Ball. Take that, Drumpf!
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 08 2019 at 12:41
oh very happy....for them more and what they represent... rather than for any f**king pithy jingoistic nationalistic sentiments.. at least until one saw later that true patriotism is still alive and well
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 12 2019 at 02:36
Watched whenever I had time, but TBH, I'm getting tired of constant exposition to football-soccer, so I'm not sure I will ever make space for women's sports - not that I make much space in my life for men's sports anyways - outside cycling, that is
A few positives:
- the best team won, no discussions about it (not the case with men last year in France, Belgium was the best)
- play quality was high and drama levels low and with no-one systematically flattening the grass for 20 minutes per Brazilian games, it was more fun to watch.
- Prefer to see/watch women running after a ball than men - the pleasure of the eyes - and I'm glad to see that they're wearing shorts instead of those ugly Bermuda trousers... maybe next time mini-skirts like in Tennis??
- anyone who tells Trump to f**k off is cool in my book, unless he's North Korean. Now if the US team wants to tell Bo Jo the Clown to f**k off, be my guest.