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Topic: Casiopea - Why is This Amazing Fusion NOT On PA?!
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Subject: Casiopea - Why is This Amazing Fusion NOT On PA?!
Date Posted: May 14 2019 at 02:01
I've found a few older threads addressing the same issue - with no real answer!

How the hell is this band not listed on this site?! They're exemplary jazz fusion!


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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 14 2019 at 03:04
Have you thought of proposing them for inclusion?


Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: May 14 2019 at 06:57
I really love that band. I never suggested them because they became much softer after the debut.


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 14 2019 at 11:34
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

I've found a few older threads addressing the same issue - with no real answer!

How the hell is this band not listed on this site?! They're exemplary jazz fusion!
 

I don't disagree!


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Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: May 14 2019 at 11:59
Are we talking the Japanese band from the eighties ?

Based on the little I've listened it's more like Funk-Disco to me, am I wrong?


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 14 2019 at 13:18
Originally posted by Quinino Quinino wrote:

Are we talking the Japanese band from the eighties ?

Based on the little I've listened it's more like Funk-Disco to me, am I wrong?

funk yes, disco, no. 


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: May 14 2019 at 13:47
Excellent debut.   It's funny how jazzrock/fusion as a form went from edgy, aggressive and musically challenging to diluted easy-listening background music.



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Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: May 15 2019 at 04:28
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Excellent debut.


Have to listen to that one...thanks for pointing

(they have tons of recordings thru decades, don't they?)


Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: May 15 2019 at 05:09
^ You should, it's so complex and technical and yet really accessible and memorable. Their early live albums are great too. Many songs are better than their studio counterparts.


Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: May 15 2019 at 07:37
S'pose I need to check the debut out... 

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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: May 15 2019 at 10:54
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Excellent debut.   It's funny how jazzrock/fusion as a form went from edgy, aggressive and musically challenging to diluted easy-listening background music.

In my opinion, Casiopea were never of the aggressive and musically challenging variant. But they're quite good anyway. 

If you have an appreciation for the "easy-listening disco funk jazz fusion AOR smooth jazz yacht rock" that formed Japan's post-modern blend of late-70s/80s American popular music that was termed "City Pop," later Casiopea should be a comfortable fit, too. 


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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: May 15 2019 at 13:39
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Have you thought of proposing them for inclusion?

I'd be absolutely honored to!

Mint Jams is the definitive jazz fusion...I can't believe this is LIVE!



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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: May 15 2019 at 19:39
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Excellent debut.   It's funny how jazzrock/fusion as a form went from edgy, aggressive and musically challenging to diluted easy-listening background music.


Man, ain't THAT the truth!!  

From the wild-eye pyrotechnics of Mahavishnu Orchestra to, well, late-night TV show bands. 

Mind you, some of those cats are amazing (Kevin Eubanks for the US show "The Tonight Show" was a favorite), but the edge is gone.


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: May 15 2019 at 21:13
^ Yeah the late-nighters were usually fine (Paul Shaffer's band, David Sanborn), it's the stuff seemingly destined for waiting rooms and airport bookstores that killed it.



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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: May 16 2019 at 06:32
T-Square should also be on PA.

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Posted By: PROGMAN
Date Posted: May 16 2019 at 06:55
Yeah I saw something about them before on NHK World few years back, Japan have many great Jazz/fusion acts I didnt even know of. 

http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/artist/casiopea/?ac=cas" rel="nofollow - http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/artist/casiopea/?ac=cas

In the meantime I found there Jazz Music archives entry 


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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 31 2019 at 08:51
Wow, just when I thought I knew everything. Not even sure I've heard of them. Sounds a little fuzakie to me though. Possibly in the same ballpark as Spyro Gyra.


Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: June 01 2019 at 09:55
Listened to the first album (track list out of whack on YT)

it was ok


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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: March 14 2024 at 20:43
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=12673" rel="nofollow - Apparently they've been added! AWESOME!

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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: March 14 2024 at 22:42
Just did a deep dive on their discography last year, and I can say that their first three albums and first two live albums will be the most enticing to most listeners here. After that, there's a few stand out tracks on albums here and there, but it starts to meld together. It's all very well-made, and every incarnation of the band had/has great players. You can put it on and not want to turn it off... but you might want to be doing something else while it's on. It's the best kind of background music. You can drop your attention in at any time and go "oh yeah, nice!" And then drop out again.


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: March 22 2024 at 10:44
Love the debut. Actually I love the much less talked about follow-up Super Flight too. I honestly don't hear that much of a difference in approach or quality. Both bordering on too corny/smooth and show offy but somehow they both win me over with the sheer joy of listening to them. There's a unique kind of charm to these albums to. An innocence of sorts. I don't know how to explain it. These albums feel so much like Tokyo 1979 to me although I have no idea what that means.

Anyway, all their early stuff more than qualifies for inclusion.


Posted By: MitchwithDasticks
Date Posted: April 23 2024 at 17:10
Love Casiopea Mint Jams. Some of the best JJF. 


Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: April 25 2024 at 07:45
They just added them!!! 

Now it's time for XTC.

Oingo Boingo and Talking Heads are in but not XTC?

I will not stop until this injustice is corrected.


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Posted By: Boojieboy
Date Posted: April 25 2024 at 14:56
If they're added, then The Square (T-Square) probably should be too, as a similar group.


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 25 2024 at 15:16
Originally posted by Boojieboy Boojieboy wrote:

If they're added, then The Square (T-Square) probably should be too, as a similar group.

Prism is another band worth checking out. 


Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: April 26 2024 at 20:26
WttRG is a terrific album and my personal favorite studio T-Square release!


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Posted By: Rottenprogger
Date Posted: April 27 2024 at 14:05
Another incredible band that I would have never discovered if it wasn't for PA. Glad to see that they've finally been added!



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