Rainbow Rising Rough Mix Stargazer
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Topic: Rainbow Rising Rough Mix Stargazer
Posted By: deafmoon
Subject: Rainbow Rising Rough Mix Stargazer
Date Posted: August 31 2018 at 07:00
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I just downloaded the Rainbow Rising Deluxe Album to hear the Rough mixes and yes, I know Rainbow is hard rock and may not be considered Prog, but regardless, Tony Carey's keyboard opening on the rough mix of Stargazer is 1 minute of bliss to my ears. Wish I could hear more of this guy like this, I really dug this rough mix opening. ------------- Deafmoon |
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: August 31 2018 at 10:02
| It might not be considered prog by some people, but is a hell of a great band. Fantastic music!!!!! |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 31 2018 at 12:32
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One of the first bands I loved should check it out. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: SonomaComa1999
Date Posted: August 31 2018 at 22:24
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Rainbow's studio albums may be more on the hard rock side, but the band did their best to incorporate improvisation and extended musical passages in their live shows with the goal of being more progressive according to Ritchie Blackmore. If you go back and find a couple of their shows, you'll see 11 minute renditions of "Man on the Silver Mountain" and if you're lucky you'll find a THIRTY MINUTE version of the three minute instrumental Yardbirds cover "Still I'm Sad". I normally wouldn't consider Rainbow's studio albums as prog, but their live albums during the Dio period definitely are. "On Stage" and all the bootlegs are certainly prog, and will be regarded as such when I get along to them in my reviews. ------------- "Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is THE BEST..." -Frank Zappa |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 01 2018 at 03:39
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Tony Carey's not just a great keyboard player, he's a fine singer and a one-man band on his Planet P Project albums. Check out Pink World. Good stuff. All the Dio-Rainbow albums are fantastic. It's after he left that things got streamlined. I like them all, though! ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: September 01 2018 at 09:05
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A great album! I remember proudly showing off the gatefold sleeve at school when it came out. I saw them shortly afterwards at the Liverpool Empire on that tour - my first proper rock concert! Stargazer and Light in the Black make a very strong Side 2 - and I do think there is some progginess within the extended instrumentation and orchestration too. Tony Carey's contributions were always good - especially on Light in the Black, although I'm intrigued by the rough mix on Stargazer you discuss. The start of Tarot Woman is very special too. They were never the same after that album - although Long Live Rock and Roll delayed the decline to come extent thanks to Ronnie. Such a shame Tony was forced out by the Witchfinder General himself after Rainbow Rising. ------------- “Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.” |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: September 01 2018 at 11:47
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Dio was one of rock's greatest vocalists! I'd consider Rainbow to be prog-related, as much as Deep Purple is. Fantastic music. ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 01 2018 at 12:53
Ronnie James Dio was my favorite (male) rock vocalist. Seriously. From Elf all the way down to Heaven and Hell! He was amazing. RIP RJD. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
cstack3 wrote:Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 01 2018 at 21:01
Indeed they did great things with their live versions. But I guess it's very much what Deep Purple did themselves on their shows too. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 02 2018 at 02:02
| In my head there used to be an even longer demo version but I am terrible at misremembering things so don't hold me to it! It was always odd the way the song started on a drum intro but that made it very distinct. Yep Tony's intro is fantastic but there is only one rule at work - 'Don't show up the boss!!' |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 02 2018 at 15:43
 A great album ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: MattGuitat
Date Posted: September 02 2018 at 21:23
| Just added the rough mix to my queue. I love the original, interested to hear how the studio keyboard intro compares to the much-longer live ones. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 25 2019 at 18:54
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A couple weeks ago, I chanced upon this live performance by Tony Carey and his band. This is probably the best version of "Tarot Woman" I've heard that doesn't have Dio's vocals! ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 26 2019 at 07:44
| Unfortunately anyone who wasn't Dio or Powell tended to get mixed down both in the studio and live - the bass is too low on Rising (but I may be biased). When I was Rainbow, Carey was shoved over to the edge of the stage and we couldn't even see him. |