Meshuggah's music sucks?
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Topic: Meshuggah's music sucks?
Posted By: TexasKing
Subject: Meshuggah's music sucks?
Date Posted: October 18 2016 at 10:40
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Do you also think that Meshuggah's music is dreadful? I can't get how this band get any kind of critical acclaim and praise esp. on the Progarchives forum. I know that band is technically good and complex, but the music they made with that good instrumental techniques is totally unlistenable to me. I don't find the slightest quality in their music. What are your opinions and do you agree with me?
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 18 2016 at 10:43
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^ Tom Ozric's gonna flip  I don't like the vocals, that's my problem with them,
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Posted By: HosiannaMantra
Date Posted: October 18 2016 at 10:47
Yes, inventive but dreadful. 
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 18 2016 at 10:49
| Yep. Hate it. |
Posted By: TexasKing
Date Posted: October 18 2016 at 10:55
| I think their music (djent) is not any better than nu-metal music. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 18 2016 at 10:57
I disagree as long as there aren't metalcore-like vocals, djent could be quite good. also some instrumental djent is great.
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TexasKing wrote:Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: October 18 2016 at 10:57
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Posted By: TexasKing
Date Posted: October 18 2016 at 11:32
Do you think System of a Down is better than Meshuggah? I think they are much better.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 18 2016 at 11:37
better? as in do I like them more? neither interest me
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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: October 18 2016 at 11:50
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"Just because you don't like it don't mean it's no good." ~ Mike Muir ------------- "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken |
Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: October 18 2016 at 12:10
but all he wanted was a Pepsi. I love Meshuggah, both their thrash and groove stuff. Their new album is killer.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: October 18 2016 at 12:39
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Just started checking them out, vocals are tough but musically great. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: astrowhiz
Date Posted: October 18 2016 at 13:27
I'd take System of a Down over any djent. I'm not sure I'd lump SOAD in with nu-metal tbh cos at their best they were much more inventive than that label would suggest. I sometimes get the feeling musicians like djent as they appreciate the technical aspects. I'm just a chump who likes music so maybe it's lost on me. Djent feels like bunches of guys who are extremely technically proficient but have little songwriting ability, it bores me to tears. ------------- https://bandcamp.com/astrowhiz" rel="nofollow - https://bandcamp.com/astrowhiz |
Posted By: andreol263
Date Posted: October 18 2016 at 14:30
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Well, have you heard the new album from them? i'm new to Meshuggah music too and this is the first album that i heard from them and i'm listening to it right now, the music is VERY well constructed, it's concise and has unsual elements in it, the only thing that i can't understand is why the vocals are so strange, with a stronger gutural vocal it would sound better, but the way is it now it's pretty good!!, i can't say anything about System of A Down really.... ------------- 
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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: October 18 2016 at 15:58
Ah, Suicidal Tendencies! I used to love them. As far as Meshuggah goes, I've heard a bit but not enough to judge them on. I will state this fact: they are a band. ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: October 18 2016 at 16:55
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I quite love Tesseract by love i mean LOVE -------------  
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Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: October 18 2016 at 20:44
Don't you still like them? Lights...Camera...Revolution! is a classic. Their new album is pretty great as well, really brings back the classic ST sound.
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: October 19 2016 at 01:37
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I won't say that their music sucks, especially since I'm starting to be somewhat fed up by the current appearance of "negative" threads on this forum for a few weeks... It's okay to say "I don't like this band that everyone say to love", but I'm starting to feel a bit suspicious about the multiplication of those "negative" threads in a really short time. Anyway, back to the topic: I hardly know the music of Meshuggah. I've tried to listen one or two of their albums, without managing to get into them after just one (1) session of listening. I've not been really impressed by what I heard, saying to myself: "Oh, I've already this kind of rhythms, this type of riffs..." before remembering these guys are around since the mid-90's and have influenced younger bands that I discovered before Meshuggah... So, I guess that I would better try to listen a bit more carefully their music before expressing a definitive opinion about them. After all, they're still better than, let's say, Behold The Arctopus... |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: October 19 2016 at 03:24
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^ Arctopus are pretty cool. Anything with Colin Marston is awesome. Especially Gorguts. Meshuggah are crazy good. Love what they do. Love the ferocity and power of their grooves, but what I do love most is the Tech-Thrash of their debut, Contradictions Collapse. It just doesn't get any better than this. |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: October 19 2016 at 04:11
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Arctopus, cool... Let's say I can't get through the avalanche of riffs from this band and it's really difficult for me to feel an emotional connection with them because of the high technicity/virtuosity. On the other hand, I have this split-single Arctopus/Orthrelm...  |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: October 19 2016 at 04:27
| ^ I know where you coming from. The music of Arctopus is like forcing a square peg in a round hole, but I love the challenging nature of it all. And, most folks can't stand Extreme styles. Fully understandable. |
Posted By: TexasKing
Date Posted: October 19 2016 at 07:53
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Fear Factory can easily musically "kill" Meshuggah with 7-string guitar sound. And I can't understand how Meshuggah have anything with a term PROG. |
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: October 19 2016 at 08:07
I think I initially discovered the Arctopus whilst googling the term "unlistenable". Found a bunch of good stuff that way
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Posted By: Paranoid_Empire
Date Posted: October 19 2016 at 08:42
| Meshuggah are god awful binary metal. Chugga chugga 010011010011. They give me a headache and the vocals are crap mallcore, screamo styled monotony. I'd rather listen to grass grow. |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: October 19 2016 at 14:40
In fact, since I enjoy stuff like Carcass, Napalm Death, Dillinger Escape Plan, Prong or Fear Factory etc... I should enjoy BTA and Meshuggah, but I fear these bands will never spend a long time in my "playlist", a bit like Nile or Machine Head. Anyway, I'm listening right now to Meshuggah's Chaosphere (1998) to see if the "magic" could work on me. I don't hate it, but I'm not exactly enjoying it. |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: October 20 2016 at 00:13
| Funny, I find Dillinger E.P. to be 'difficult' compared to Meshuggah, I do like them, but they're totally bonkers !! |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 20 2016 at 00:29
In fact, because you enjoy top shelf death metal like Carcass (indifferent to the rest) you should not enjoy BTA and Meshhuggah. Its pain logic.
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Posted By: aglasshouse
Date Posted: October 22 2016 at 20:00
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Intricate does not always mean good. I do admit Meshuggah is a big outlier but I'll never like Dillinger. There's just no actual substance aside from complexity for the sake of being complex. ------------- http://fryingpanmedia.com |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: October 22 2016 at 20:36
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I adore the Arctopus album Horrorscension, it's fantastic stuff, prefer it to Meshuggah.
------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: backtothegarden
Date Posted: December 07 2016 at 13:02
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When Destroy, Erase, Improve came out, I was blown away. Future Breed Machine is a bona fide classic. But I also had a greater tolerance for screaming vocals then compared to now. I find myself desiring more melody in my music, but I still love the heavy stuff. That's why I like what some of the djent bands have done with Meshuggah's sound. Bands like Tesseract, Stealing Axion, and Face the Maybe have infused the low-tuned, poly-rhythmic foundation with melodic elements. When clean vocals are involved, this style is one of my faves right now. It's kind of a "2.0" version - they took the key elements, and added another layer to the sound. It's happened in a number of other styles, like with what Chevelle did with Helmet's sound, or what Soen did with Tool's sound. In other words, "sub-genre" is the sincerest form of flattery. I know there's a fine line between imitation and "sub-genre", if you will. I also understand that which of those categories a band is in that is heavily influenced by another may vary, depending on who you ask. Discussing it is the stuff that makes message boards great. BTW saw a mention of Prong on here. I hadn't listened to them in about 20 years before I found "No Absolutes" at a yard sale a few months ago. It was surprisingly good.
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Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: December 07 2016 at 13:25
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Even though I liked the first records when they came out, I grew tired of Messhugah really fast. If you are a symphonic prog fan who loves solos and variation, stay away. Messhugah is all about repeating a riff over and over, taking that riff changing it a bit and repeating it again for several minutes. When they released "Catch 33" I couldn't take it anymore ------------- Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement. |
Posted By: backtothegarden
Date Posted: December 07 2016 at 13:34
"I" was also a tough listen. Kind of reminded me of when Yes put out "Tales from Topographic Oceans". Too pretentious, and they got away from what really made them good.
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Posted By: Thatfabulousalien
Date Posted: December 07 2016 at 15:43
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I love the Meshuggah albums: Chaosphere and especially: CATCH 33 (a concept album masterpiece) Also, Fredrick's album "Sol Niger within" (the darkness within) ------------- Classical music isn't dead, it's more alive than it's ever been. It's just not on MTV. https://www.soundcloud.com/user-322914325 |
Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: December 07 2016 at 20:12
Prong is great, Beg to Differ is a thrash classic. Also, nice to see Chevelle mentioned on here. One of my favorite bands. They certainly took their Tool and Helmet influences and made their own sound.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 08 2016 at 08:47
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Had to ck out this thread......I can honestly say I have never heard anything by this band ( I don't generally like any metal bands of any kind especially those with growling vocals...) , so I went on you tube and listened to a few songs from the new album. My impression is that teenage kids on pot in their mother's basement would love this music. Having said that they seem like they know how to play their instruments but it's a shame that this is what they came up with. But different strokes for different folks...I guess.  ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: December 08 2016 at 22:19
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[QUOTE=dr wu23] Had to ck out this thread......I can honestly say I have never heard anything by this band ( I don't generally like any metal bands of any kind especially those with growling vocals...) , so I went on you tube and listened to a few songs from the new album. My impression is that teenage kids on pot in their mother's basement would love this music. [DIV[/IMG]Try the song Cadaverous Mastication.................seriously !!! |