When is Peter Gabriel not Peter Gabriel??
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Topic: When is Peter Gabriel not Peter Gabriel??
Posted By: RayRo
Subject: When is Peter Gabriel not Peter Gabriel??
Date Posted: November 06 2015 at 13:47
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I thought this might be of interest to Peter Gabriel fans. I heard this song on the car radio years ago in Boston and was convinced that it was sung by Gabriel, so I went crazy to find the album it was on, including the early self titled albums and Gabriel's movie sound tracks, but no luck. I went to one of those "Spirit of the Sixties" revival parties where everyone wears sandals, tie dyed clothes and beads (and smokes a lot of herb). I heard this song playing on a CD player and said "That song! That's Peter Gabriel!" The DJ just laughed at me and handed me an Eric Burdon album cover to look out. Well, what do you think? Eric Burdon or Peter Gabriel?
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 06 2015 at 23:14
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Well...I know that album from the old days because I liked the Animals and Sky pilot and Monterey are on it. But it does sound a little like an early Genesis track that could have been on the very first album Genesis To Revelation. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 01:49
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Burdon. |
Posted By: spenadosb
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 09:21
| Bajaba suena igual |
Posted By: RayRo
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 09:47
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dr wu23 wrote:Posted By: RayRo
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 11:20
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Posted By: Rando
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 14:55
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"Genesis To Revelation" their first album, a great debut and a terribly underrated album. Peter Gabriel's voice immediately grabs you and takes you into a world full of wonderful and beautiful songs filled with imagery and relaxing moods. If you're going to compare, the sound and style of this debut album it is somewhat similar to the Moody Blues if any. Considering they were only 17 or 18 when they made this album is quite an impressive collection of songs filled with a certain naivete and innocence, yet beautiful. But don't judge this album by what Genesis became, but as the beginning of an incredible and successful musical journey.  ------------- - Music is Life, that's why our hearts have beats - |
Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 15:22
When is Peter Gabriel not Peter Gabriel?.........when he's Brian Pern of course! Long live Thotch! (& BBC4 of course!)------------- Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea. |
Posted By: RayRo
Date Posted: November 09 2015 at 14:44
I downloaded the above Animals album titled The Twain Shall Meet and it definitely has a Moody Blues vibe that I like very much, so I'll probably enjoy From Genesis to Revolution, too.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 10 2015 at 02:59
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There are some similarities with Peter Gabriel's vocals, but Eric Burdon's voice sounds even thicker.
If you like a Moodies vibe I can recommend you http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=10664" rel="nofollow - The Collectors' self-titled debut album .
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Posted By: sublime220
Date Posted: November 10 2015 at 08:42
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When he is... The fox on the rocks A Slipperman Rael Shocking the monkey A flower? Mr. Cloud Face Britannia Dancing With The Moonlit Knight An old man wanting to know your flesh A bat watching the skies Whatever the hell the Magog is supposed to represent ------------- There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark... |
Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: November 12 2015 at 17:23
 Ha Ha! Of course although its based on PG it lampoons (in an affectionate way) all of 70's rock and what it became in the 80's, 90's and beyond. ------------- |
Posted By: Son.of.Tiresias
Date Posted: March 18 2016 at 17:31
Exactly. They were young geniuses and suddenly having got rid of the lush string arrangements and that naive production all came together, and in late 1970 "Trespass" the unique masterpiece in Progīs early stage was born. Itīs a cheer brilliance in Symphonic Prog in its very own pastoral way. Very beautiful yet very serious and quite melancholic music at finest. Peter Gabriel became a young god, and the most beautiful of them all  ------------- You may see a smile on Tony Banksī face but thatīs unlikely. |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: March 18 2016 at 23:23
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Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: March 19 2016 at 17:57
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I don't think that's really the case at all.. I agree with Son of Tiresias; there are many little hints of later Genesis (the little snippet/ riff which later became 'Twighlight Alehouse' for instance) and they were very young and lots of the production decisions were taken away from them by Jonathan King (such as the string arrangements). I think that despite what many think about From Genesis to Revelation, it was an important and necessary step in their development, if only in part that it made them realise that they only really wanted to make the music that they wanted to make. ------------- |
Posted By: brainstormer
Date Posted: March 20 2016 at 22:51
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Thanks for that 1968 song by Eric Burdon. Great find. It really has everything that Proto-Prog was doing at the time. I find the 1967-1968 Electric Prunes to be the tops in this regard. ------------- -- Robert Pearson Regenerative Music http://www.regenerativemusic.net Telical Books http://www.telicalbooks.com ParaMind Brainstorming Software http://www.paramind.net |
Posted By: brainstormer
Date Posted: March 20 2016 at 22:57
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People told me how much they didn't like the first Genesis album, and you know what, I never really gave it a chance until about two days ago (and I have liked the band since the late 70s). It's good pop for the time period. ------------- -- Robert Pearson Regenerative Music http://www.regenerativemusic.net Telical Books http://www.telicalbooks.com ParaMind Brainstorming Software http://www.paramind.net |
Posted By: Flyingsod
Date Posted: March 21 2016 at 00:00
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I pull From Genesis to Revelation out about once a decade. It never makes an impression and never makes it into current rotation. Its seems to me it's fairly standard psych pop for the era. There is a couple standouts I do enjoy however. The Conqueror, and if you have a release with bonus tracks One Eyed Hound is earwormy. There may be a slight rumbling of what they would become but its heavily obscured by the pop sensibility. In my Teens I was a huge Moody Blues listener. I never hear any resemblance in the two. What did you think of it OP? I can definitely tell that is Burdon on the song above. I do hear that Gabriel raspyness though and can make myself imagine it to be him. Its kind of fun having my brain go back and forth between him and Burdon as I listen :) Aside from the timber of the voice however the singing style is clearly Burdon. ------------- This space intentionally left blank |
Posted By: brainstormer
Date Posted: March 21 2016 at 10:56
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I love to talk about the Proto-Prog period. It's one thing when a Proto-Prog band throws in a
little bit of classical on top of a language that is still almost entirely
blues based. So far, that seems to be what the Collectors are doing.
I have just heard of them now and the blues harmonica is putting me off.
It's another thing when most of the structure of their music is in a
classical direction or the combination of both which we call Prog. It
doesn't really matter if they are writing it all themselves (1st
King Crimson) or are using another living person working with them (Axelrod
with the Prunes) or just doing a rock version of a classical work (A Lover's
Concerto by the Toys). It still gives a
very different feeling from listening to an album that has a moment or even
more of classical, but then the rest of the vibe comes back to blues-based
rock. ------------- -- Robert Pearson Regenerative Music http://www.regenerativemusic.net Telical Books http://www.telicalbooks.com ParaMind Brainstorming Software http://www.paramind.net |
Posted By: brainstormer
Date Posted: March 21 2016 at 11:08
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I don't have a thing against blues, it would be the same thing if it came back to always sounding like Alan Holdsworth scales, or polka, and so on. The idea is that the modal aspect of the lyricism seems to form paradigms instead of creating the lines of more free melody. ------------- -- Robert Pearson Regenerative Music http://www.regenerativemusic.net Telical Books http://www.telicalbooks.com ParaMind Brainstorming Software http://www.paramind.net |
Posted By: Son.of.Tiresias
Date Posted: March 23 2016 at 04:06
Quite rightly so... Eeh... Dr. Lawnmover I presume...?  ------------- You may see a smile on Tony Banksī face but thatīs unlikely. |
Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: March 23 2016 at 10:38
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Well, it will be interesting to hear what the OP thinks of the album. Personally I find From Genesis To Revelations to be quite dull and boring, but it's not a "bad" album per say. I do like Gabriel's voice on it and there are one or two tracks that are decent 60's pop. I personally don't really hear anything of the future band, aside from Gabriel's raspy vocals (and even those are much more interesting starting with Trespass). Again though, I don't think it's the terrible album most people make it out to be, but I also don't think it's really worth having in a Genesis collection (unless you absolutely have to have every album they ever did). |
Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: March 24 2016 at 17:31
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Its easy to Judge Genesis to Revelation (or in hindsight.. the reason why it stands out is because it is so different from the later Peter Gabriel lps and yes it is unashamedly a group of young men trying to emulate their heroes who at that time happened to be the Beatles, Bee Gees, Beach boys plus a dollop of soul (on PG's side anyway) then manipulated by a 'Simon Cowell' figure, poorly produced and promoted then dropped. The Moody Blues first lp was also completely different from later lps (Ok it had quite a different line-up with a totally different song writing partner in Denny Laine and they had also been gigging regularly before recording) and therefore stands separately from the rest of their canon but is most definitely the first step in a long journey. ------------- |
Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: March 24 2016 at 17:41
Heh Heh!  Dr Lawnmover... I like the idea of moving lawns rather than mowing them and particularly having a doctorate in it!------------- |