Top 5: Vocalists
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Topic: Top 5: Vocalists
Posted By: martindavey87
Subject: Top 5: Vocalists
Date Posted: November 01 2015 at 09:31
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So this is the third of my 'Top 5' editions of blog posts. This week I'm looking at vocalists. I haven't shared any of the others here, although I have done at Progarchive's partner site MetalMusicArchives. So I'll link 'em all up here. What do you think? How do my lists compare to yours? And who would be your top five singers/guitarists/bands? Top 5: Vocalists https://martindavey87.wordpress.com/2015/11/01/top-5-vocalists/" rel="nofollow - https://martindavey87.wordpress.com/2015/11/01/top-5-vocalists/ Top 5: Guitarists https://martindavey87.wordpress.com/2015/10/09/top-5-guitarists/" rel="nofollow - https://martindavey87.wordpress.com/2015/10/09/top-5-guitarists/ Top 5: Bands https://martindavey87.wordpress.com/2015/09/30/top-5-bands/" rel="nofollow - https://martindavey87.wordpress.com/2015/09/30/top-5-bands/ |
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: November 01 2015 at 10:15
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1. Cedric Bixler-Zavala (The Mars Volta) 2. Peter Gabriel (Genesis) 3. Peter Hammill (VdGG) 4. Jonsi (Sigur Ros) 5. Michael Gira (Swans) ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: November 01 2015 at 13:17
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No order..... Peter Gabriel Steve Hogarth Peter Nicholls Ross Jennings Mariusz Duda -------------   
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: November 01 2015 at 15:24
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5) Daevid Allen 4) Robert Calvert 3) Anna Meek 2) Inga Rumpf 1) Peter Hammill -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: November 08 2015 at 02:19
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1) Ray Alder 2) Damian Wilson 3) Christina Scabbia 4) Phil Collins 5) Peter Nicholls ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 08 2015 at 13:17
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Jon Anderson Francesco Di Giacomo Annie Haslam Jimmy Spitalleri Greg Lake |
Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: November 08 2015 at 14:43
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I'm more folky on my vocalists at the moment For a things on the archives perspective: 2. Roy Harper 3. Demetrio Stratos 4. Peter Gabriel 5. Dagmar Krause For general purpose: Peter Hammill Roy Harper Jacques Brel Jake Thackray Dave Van Ronk But i could put a list of about thirty together with no preferences outside prog, probably. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 08 2015 at 15:57
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1.- Francesco di Giacomo 2.- Peter Gabriel 3.- Greg Lake 4.- John Wetton 5.- David Gilmour ------------- 
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: November 08 2015 at 17:04
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David Bowie Daniel Gildenlow David Byron Freddie Mercury Paul McCartney |
Posted By: Terakonin
Date Posted: November 08 2015 at 17:22
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Not all prog, sorry, and not in any particular order. Jeff Buckley David Longdon (Big Big Train) Annie Clark (St. Vincent) Roger Daltrey Freddie Mercury ------------- You left a note in your perfect script Stay as long as you like I haven't left your bed since |
Posted By: Bthos
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 15:30
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1. Robert Plant 2. Jeff Buckley 3. Thom Yorke 4. John Lennon 5. maybe Billy Corgan but could be any one of David Gilmour or Johnny Cash aswell
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 15:42
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A Team: Bryan Ferry Colin Mold Christian Decamps David Cousins Fish B Team : Marc Atkinson Vince Cavanagh Marco Glühmann Mariusz Duda Stu Nicholson ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: Ier
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 15:58
1. Tim Bowness  (no-man and solo work)2. Steve Hogarth (Marillion) 3. Steven Wilson (Porcupine Tree and solo work) 4. Ray Wilson (Genesis, Stiltskin) 5. Peter Gabriel (Genesis and solo work) .... TIM! ------------- http://grendelhq.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - My personal page 
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 16:40
Yeah, Tim Bowness is great too  ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Ier wrote:Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 19:18
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1) Kate Bush 2) Bjoerk 3) Mark Hollis 4) Robert Wyatt 5) Peter Gabriel |
Posted By: Frosted Celt
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 19:39
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From bands that are generally considered some form of prog. 1. Ian Gillan 2. Warrel Dane 3. David Byron 4. Geoff Tate 5. Roger Waters ------------- 
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Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: December 08 2015 at 21:31
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Peter Hammill Peter Gabriel Cedric Bixler-Zavala John Wetton Greg Lake Also, Ian Gillan Bruce Dickinson Bob Dylan Roger Daltary Chris Cornell |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 09 2015 at 04:38
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No rankings: Those Peter Gabriel Roger Daltrey Annie Haslam Peter Hammill (an acquired taste) Kerry Minnear These David Longdon Phil Naro Ross Jennings Jean-Philippe Major Luca Latini ------------- 
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: December 09 2015 at 08:32
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Strictly favourites, no ranking best/better etc Prog: Annie Haslam Kate Bush Fish Peter Hammill Daniel Gildenlow General (but excluding jazz and classical): Jeff Buckley Stevie Wonder Annie Haslam Dio Karen Carpenter |
Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: December 09 2015 at 11:41
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Shawn Phillips Roye Albrighton Daevid Allen Peter Gabriel Napoleon Murphy Brock |
Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: December 09 2015 at 11:52
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1. Peter Hammill 2. Kevin Ayers 3. Micky Jones with Deke Leonard 4. Paul Williams 5. Bob Weir
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: December 09 2015 at 12:15
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Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: December 09 2015 at 14:04
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Jon Anderson Robert Plant Geddy Lee Peter Gabriel Jim Morrison no particular order, anyway, and it's bound to change, of course.
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: December 10 2015 at 11:34
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Helmut Koellen Aldo Tagliapietra Burke Shelley Greg Lake John Gustafson
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: December 12 2015 at 07:17
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Peter Gabriel Jon Anderson Ian Anderson Freddie Mercury (and I really don't like Queen) Alex Ligertwood |
Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: December 12 2015 at 07:33
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In no order: Peter Gabriel Fish Roger Hodgson Annie Haslam Peter Nicholls ------------- http://theprogressiveweb.blogspot.de" rel="nofollow - Visit me in Second Life to talk about music. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 12 2015 at 08:16
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tough one... hmmm. So many. 1) Richard Sinclair - He could be singing the Yellow pages and it would still be good... 2) Greg Lake - talent wise the best of the lot. He could carry off anything.. 3) Renata Knaup - the mere sound of her voice makes me harder than a 2x4. Sadly underused IMO in that group. 4) Jack Bruce - not just a bass player man.. that voice. 5) Demetrio Stratos - not just a singer... but an instrument in himself. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: December 12 2015 at 08:30
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In no particular order: Topi Lehtipuu Francesco Di Giacomo Richard Sinclair Mariusz Duda Jon Anderson |
Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: December 18 2015 at 17:42
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In no order: Robert Wyatt Jon Anderson Klaus Blasquiz Roy Harper Richard Sinclair |
Posted By: Rando
Date Posted: December 27 2015 at 23:37
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Peter Cetera (Chicago) Phil Collins Peter Gabriel Justin Heyward Paul McCartney (In alphabetical Order, not preference) ------------- - Music is Life, that's why our hearts have beats - |
Posted By: Cookie13
Date Posted: March 11 2016 at 08:03
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Honorable mention; Maynard James Keenan (Tool, A Perfect Circle, Puscifer) 5. Adrian Belew (King Crimson, solo) 4. Ian Kenny (Karnivool, Birds Of Tokyo) 3. Thom Yorke (Radiohead, solo) 2. Cedric Bixler-Zavala (The Mars Volta, At The Drive-In, Antemasque) 1. Mike Patton (Faith No More, Mr Bungle, Fantomas, Tomahawk, solo, etc.) |
Posted By: ALotOfBottle
Date Posted: March 27 2016 at 04:45
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So many that it would be hard to pick 5! Some that I like and haven't seen named. 1. Arthur Brown 2. Chris Farlowe 3. David Byron 4. Peter Hammil (he was already named) 5. Roger Chapman |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 27 2016 at 04:54
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Franco Battiato Demetrio Stratos Courtney Swain Brendan Perry Diamanda Galas ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: March 27 2016 at 05:04
Phenomenal
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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: July 30 2016 at 21:35
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Damian Wilson (Threshold, Landmarq, Headspace) Phil Collins Ray Alder (Redemption and Fates Warning) Cammie Gilbert (Oceans Of Slumber) Eric Clayton ( Saviour Machine.) ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: July 30 2016 at 21:40
Wow. Diamanda Galas? You are intense homey.  And how about that Brandan Perry? Amazing. God. The way he sings on 'Children Of the Sun' is a huge Homerun if you ask me. ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 31 2016 at 01:57
Amon Düül 2's "Vortex" should be just the thing for you then; Renate appears on every track there, even in the opening instrumental (she only sings "oohs" and "ahs" in it. oh and she laughs at the beginning of the track) ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: DeadSouls
Date Posted: July 31 2016 at 09:17
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Kevin Ayers Björk Syd Barrett Greg Lake Peter Gabriel
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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: August 02 2016 at 15:48
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Why not ask for the Top 10 as befitting to this lounge? ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: August 02 2016 at 18:04
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Jon Anderson David Byron Serge Fiori Ian Gillan Ronnie Van Zant ------------- when i was a kid a doller was worth ten dollers - now a doller couldnt even buy you fifty cents |
Posted By: aglasshouse
Date Posted: August 02 2016 at 18:52
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Derek Shulman Michael Glabicki Phil Collins Steve Winwood David Gilmour Not really in any order. ------------- http://fryingpanmedia.com |
Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: August 02 2016 at 19:33
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Not in any order David Bowie Robert Plant Freddie Mercury Jon Anderson Ian Anderson ( Before he obliterated his larynx on the 84' Under Wraps tour)
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Posted By: maryes
Date Posted: August 08 2016 at 18:38
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Jon Anderson Annie Haslam Peter Gabriel Freddie Mercury Geedy Lee
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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: August 11 2016 at 22:20
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hmmm well hmmmm.... top five none prog: 1. Robert Plant 2. Paul Rogers 3. Chris Robinson 4. Anthony Kiedis 5. Bruce Dickinson top five soul/blues: 1. Otis Redding 2. Muddy Waters 3. James Brown 4. BB King 5. Buddy Guy top five newer prog: 1. Fish 2. Andy Tillinson 3. Geoff Mann 4. Chris Buzby 5. Damon Fox top five PROG: 1. Peter Gabriel 2. Jon Anderson 3. Roger Waters 4. Ian Anderson 5. Greg Lake Phew!  ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: mechanicalflattery
Date Posted: August 12 2016 at 00:19
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1. Meredith Monk 2. Joanna Newsom 3. Diamanda Galas 4. Peter Hammill 5. Kate Bush Honorable mentions to Captain Beefheart and Jeanne Lee
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Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: August 12 2016 at 03:28
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Prog/Rock: Peter Nicholls Damian Wilson Floor Jansen Steve Hogarth Anneke Van Giersbergen Random: Neil Diamond Tasmin Archer Katherine Jenkins |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 12 2016 at 03:31
I consider Steve Hogarth to be such an expressionless singer; Fish was the much better singer for Marillion ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: HosiannaMantra
Date Posted: August 12 2016 at 04:51
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For PA purpose: John Wetton Greg Lake Dan Andrei Aldea Ken Hensley Steve Winwood Otherwise: Greg Allman Neil Young Sally Oldfield Suzanne Vega John Mayall
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Posted By: Son.of.Tiresias
Date Posted: September 17 2016 at 06:27
David ByronSerge Fiori... could you enlighten us ? ------------- You may see a smile on Tony Banks´ face but that´s unlikely. |
Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: September 17 2016 at 06:33
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Prog: 1. Freddy Mercury (who else) 2. Michael Sadler (Saga) 3. Susanne Sundfør 4. Kate Bush 5. Annie Haslam (Renaissance) Non-prog: 1. Shara Nova (My Brightest Diamond) 2. Roland Orzabel (Tears for Fears) 3. Gregg Allman (Allman Brothers Band) 4. Warren Haynes (Gov't Mule) 5. Morten Harket (a-ha) ___________________________________________ I left so many out, because lack of space (top5 is very restricted): Ian Anderson (Jethro Tull), John Lees (BJH), Justin Hayward (Moody Blues), Ray Thomas (Moody Blues), Fish (Marillion), Andrew McDermott (Threshold), David Byron (Uriah Heep), Bernie Shaw (Uriah Heep), Peter Goalby (Uriah Heep), Cy Curnin (The Fixx)
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Posted By: HosiannaMantra
Date Posted: September 17 2016 at 06:39
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: September 22 2016 at 01:24
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Francesco Di Giacomo Christian Vander Stella Vander Daniel Gildenlow George Duke Nonprog: Karin Krog ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Son.of.Tiresias
Date Posted: September 22 2016 at 02:01
Nice ------------- You may see a smile on Tony Banks´ face but that´s unlikely. |
Posted By: Son.of.Tiresias
Date Posted: September 22 2016 at 02:02
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[QUOTE=Tapfret]Francesco Di Giacomo ------------- You may see a smile on Tony Banks´ face but that´s unlikely. |
Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: September 22 2016 at 02:12
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Female vocalists: 1. Susanne Sundfør 2. Annie Haslam 3. Kate Bush 4. Shara Nova 5. Sarah Bartel
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Posted By: Flight123
Date Posted: September 22 2016 at 03:22
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Very tough call, and very subjective I would imagine for most of us: If forced then it would be: Dagmar Greg Lake Christian Vander Robert Wyatt Frank Zappa |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: September 22 2016 at 17:40
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Tim Buckley Czeslaw Niemen Damian Wilson Casey Crescenzo Justin Hayward |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: September 22 2016 at 18:01
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Richard Sinclair Serge Fiori Dagmar Krause Courtney Swain Robert Wyatt ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: starless2112
Date Posted: September 27 2016 at 20:26
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David Gilmour Bernardo Lanzetti Richard Sinclair Geddy Lee Jennie Haan
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Posted By: EddieRUKiddingVarese
Date Posted: September 27 2016 at 21:18
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Top five from the Land of Oz All Rock forms Kate Ceberano Graeme "Shirley" Strachan Bernard "Doc" Neeson Ross "The Boss" Wilson Chrissy Amphlett Which one is Kate?  ------------- "Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes" and I need the knits, the double knits! |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 27 2016 at 21:49
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the top 3 are so obvious that... it would figure I'd be the only one to name them 1. Greg Lake 2. Justin Haywood 3. Demitrio Stratos the next 2.. hmmm... 4. Richard Sinclair.... perhaps next to David Sylvian the only vocalist that could sing the yellow pages and make it an essential listening experience... 5. Ian Gilliam... oh the range and pipes he once had. NONE better for what he was.. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Mr Smith
Date Posted: September 28 2016 at 12:51
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funny, I thought this was a Prog board, however looking at a lot of these names mentioned, I wonder. ------------- Ne Plus Ultra |
Posted By: mechanicalflattery
Date Posted: September 28 2016 at 12:59
Greg Lake and Justin Haywood above Demetrio Stratos? Really? Also there are definitely other people listing those first two.
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Posted By: mechanicalflattery
Date Posted: September 28 2016 at 13:00
Oh no, prog fans listen to other kinds of music too. The horror, the horror. Please stop trolling.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 28 2016 at 13:31
do you mean Ian Gillan?
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 28 2016 at 13:44
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Demetrio Stratos Catherine Ribeiro Arthur Brown Damo Suzuki Brendan Perry (if one considers Dead Can Dance prog) ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Mr Smith
Date Posted: September 28 2016 at 14:23
simply mentioned it because the name of the site is progarchives and not anymusicyouwantarchives. ------------- Ne Plus Ultra |
Posted By: EddieRUKiddingVarese
Date Posted: September 28 2016 at 18:33
Maybe he means Terry...............  Did Monty ever do Prog?------------- "Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes" and I need the knits, the double knits! |
Posted By: EddieRUKiddingVarese
Date Posted: September 28 2016 at 18:34
getoverit , now there is a thread for future use or Days of Future Past! ------------- "Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes" and I need the knits, the double knits! |
Posted By: aglasshouse
Date Posted: September 28 2016 at 18:57
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Some honorable mentions for my previous list: Mark Knopfler Trey Anastasio Geddy Lee Michael Stipe Ed Kowalczyk (one of the best out there) I'll add more as time goes on.
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Posted By: aglasshouse
Date Posted: September 28 2016 at 19:10
Perhaps you should make your own website. Call it something like "narrowmindedarchives.com". ------------- http://fryingpanmedia.com |
Posted By: sukmytoe
Date Posted: September 29 2016 at 02:44
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Ronnie James Dio Rob Halford Jon Anderson Glenn Hughes James LaBrie On the female side - Tarja Turunen Sharon den Adel Floor Jansen Sarah Brightman Simone Simons |
Posted By: paisanojac
Date Posted: September 30 2016 at 21:48
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My top 5: Jon Anderson
John Wetton Peter Gabriel Neal Morse Kate Bush Honorable Mention (no particular order): Fish Todd Rundgren Steve Hogarth Greg Lake Geddy Lee James LaBrie Dagmar Krause Kevin Gilbert David Longdon Freddy Mercury Bruce Dickinson David Bowie Ian Anderson Donny Osmond |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: September 30 2016 at 22:22
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Just a few off the cuff Happy Rhodes David Gilmour Joni Mitchell (Sorry, she's prog enough for me) Francesco Di Giacomo Kate Bush Daniel McGowan Grace |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: October 01 2016 at 10:53
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Will answer without looking at my previous post from a year ago: Male: 1.- Francesco di Giacomo (Banco) 2.- Peter Gabriel (Not the best voice, but a hell of a vocalist) 3.- Greg Lake 4.- David Byron 5.- John Wetton Female 1.- Annie Haslam 2.- Christina Booth (Magenta) 3.- Sonja Kristina (Curved Air) 4.- Magdalena Haagberg (Pär Lind Project) 5.- Jerney Kaagman (Earth & Fire) -------------
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Posted By: Arnulf Floyd
Date Posted: July 04 2017 at 06:14
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Top 5 Prog Rock Vocalists: Jon Anderson David Gilmour Greg Lake Peter Gabriel Geddy Lee Top 5 Non-Prog Rock Vocalists: Axl Rose Freddie Mercury Robert Plant Ian Gillan Stevie Nicks ------------- Long Live Rock 'n' Roll |
Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: July 06 2017 at 12:29
I'm assuming it not just prog vocalists:
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Posted By: Boojieboy
Date Posted: July 06 2017 at 14:21
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Top 5 Vocals, Male & Female, Prog. and other rock: Gary Brooker (Procol Harum) Ian Gillan (Ian Gillan Band, Gillan, Deep Purple) Peter Gabriel (Genesis, PG) Fish (Fish, Marillion) Annie Haslam (Renaissance)
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 14 2017 at 05:12
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Peter Gabriel Freddie Mercury David Byron Andrew McDermott Mike Baker David Coverdale Robert Plant Glenn Hughes Jorn Lande Anneke Van Giersbergen
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Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: September 15 2017 at 03:09
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Non-prog: - Gregg Allman - Warren Haynes - Kip Winger - David Byron - Ronnie van Zant Prog (male) - Freddie Mercury - Michael Sadler - Roine Stolt - John Lees / Justin Hayward (shared spot) - Daniel Gildenlöw Prog (female) - Annie Haslam - Kate Bush - Susanne Sundfør - Shara Worden (My Brightest Diamond) Other female: - Florence & the Machine - Bat for Lashes
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 14:55
Oh dear can't agree with that at all. Hogarth is actually rather wonderful . Fish is a great vaudeville style entertainer but never been sure about his voice. I do like bits and pieces of what he does but too much of it just overwhelms the music IMO.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 21 2017 at 14:58
AKA Natasha Khan . I love her to death |
Posted By: Richey Edwards
Date Posted: October 08 2017 at 09:27
| Morten Harket |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: October 08 2017 at 10:57
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1) Peter Hammill 2) Gary Brooker 3) Roger Waters 4) Greg Lake 5) John Lennon ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: October 09 2017 at 05:35
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Justin Hayward Greg Lake Kate Bush Phil Collins Dave Gilmour ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: October 09 2017 at 05:36
Good choice. Always loved that guys voice. Power and range. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: October 09 2017 at 14:56
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In no particular order and no doubt somewhat changeable - 1. Tom Waits 2. Demetrio Stratos 3. Peter Hammill 4. Tim Buckley 5. Joanna Newsom |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 15 2017 at 13:32
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Hi, This is tough ... very tough. Of all these, I still think that Jim Morrison is the biggest and the best, mostly because he could also give you poetry and make it sound fantastic and explosive. This is not something that most band folks will even try, because the control of it, and the ability to continue and stop is really scary and many musicians are afraid to be hung out to dry. Some of these folks are not "singers" per se, and are more "actors" on the stage than anything else. Christian Decamps is a great example, as is Francesco di Giacomo, who used his vocal abilities so well, that we never came around to say ... that's not a singer ... the usual refrain about a lot of rock singers. Peter Hammill is the same way in that he acts out his words, a lot more than he sings them. Kate Bush has been acting out her pieces from the start. Jon Anderson in the early days, up to "Relayer" was excellent, but it all became a song after that and his lyrics suffered. The likes of PG, Fish and such, kinda fall down from my list, because they started out acting, and very well I might add, and then dropped it off altogether, for a song. And their material suffered, and all of a sudden, as in the case of PG, one hit and the rest ... we didn't bother with it. On the other hand, there is someone like Daevid Allen, and Gilly Smith, since they are both true "beat poets" all the way to the end of their lives. You could really say that this is not singing, and it doesn't matter ... what they did would not be as appreciated as it became because of their individuality and incredible talent for "words" in front of a microphone. And Gilly did many poetry slams for fun ... something that almost all of these folks listed here would not even consider, I bet! Daevid .. heck, he could read toilet paper or a newspaper ... made no difference! And laugh about Sartre, Camus, Genet and Burroughs at the same time in one small sentence! A reference that will go right by most of us just to give you an idea as to how "out there" (for lack of a better expression), they can be. I prefer the "actors", because they make a movie for your mind with the feelings. A singer, kinda gets hidden in that equation, regardless of weather they can hit that one note or not. It's not the note that matters ... it's the value of the words for the piece. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Boojieboy
Date Posted: November 15 2017 at 16:36
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Male singers Peter GabrielPeter Hammill Ian Gillan David Byron Gary Brooker Female singers: Annie Haslam Sonja Kristina Janita "Jenny" Hahn Jerney Kaagman (older Earth & Fire) Samantha Fox (in the looks department!)
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: November 15 2017 at 17:59
| @ moshkito: Whilst the aspect of acting out the lyrics is very important, it's not the be all-end all either. A great singer still needs a great tone, range and power to have options otherwise his/her repertoire is going to be limited. The ones you mentioned like Morrison, Hammill or Kate Bush tick at least some of the above boxes. If however you take someone like Donald Fagen, he was fabulous at acting out the lyrics but had by his own admission limited vocal ability which is why he is not regarded as a great singer. As such, what you call 'acting out' I call phrasing and it was usually not a problem with most of the well known singers up to the 70s because distinct accents and styles of speaking English still persisted. But nowadays too many singers mimic Tony Martin/Lea Salonga respectively so there is an annoying uniformity and lack of character in the vocals. Some of it is simply continental Europe taking over prog and people for whom English is not a native language singing in it (as opposed to their own language in the 70s). But even the ones coming from Britain/USA (like Haken's singer for example) don't have much soul. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 16 2017 at 09:39
A quote from MEATLOAF's book ... "I'm an actor that happens to sing!" Yes, no and maybe, from my experience ... there are many actors that are simply very good at inflection and use stop and go (stage style) to help their delivery. In music, this can be a bit harder since there is a limited amount of time before your next word, or expression, but then, no one that plays with Peter Hammill, ever complained about his changes and differences from song to song and from night to night. Yes, a great singing pedigree helps and Annie is a great example, but I did not think, that her voice was more important than Renaissance ... I thought both went together very well, and when the band was not there, she did not sound as strong. Maybe she needed to do a couple more Roy Wood albums? Renate (AD2) is a perfect example. She is not quite a singer, but she learned to match her voice to some of the songs, and sometimes it worked and sometimes, many of us thought it didn't. But the CHARACTER that it added to so much of the material in AD2, is amazing, and hearing the live versions that the band did in 2015 of so much of their material, all of a sudden shows, how she can adjust ... and while still not as powerful as the original, the vocal stylings are more reminiscent of the acting styles that folks like Klaus Kinski made famous ... total adlib from the word go ... and the director allowed it and sometimes even choreographed the filming around it. I think that many more bands did that with their singer than we know ... and we might just think it was grand singing, and in some ways it might not have been. To me, acting and singing are not that different ... it's all about the expression, and seeing Jodorowski make fun of it, one of the actors - the mom only sings ... is kinda funny and somehow feels out of place, but you get the idea that this is being done as a satire of the whole form ... the ideas and thoughts of it all going together are all out of kilter, and ... I agree with that for the most part. But singing has changed in the past 50 to 75 years, and "attitude" has been added. Imagine a TURANDOT, or TOSCA, or BARBER OF SEVILLE, or many other operas also done with "attitude", and it would render the work much stronger and likely better suited for a rock audience, which is where opera has gone wrong ... they don't think the rock audience is important and that a Mick Jagger is an idiot compared to their tenors and such on the stage! It sure brings up ... an interesting future for singing ... that I bet you we will not like when we first hear it! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: November 16 2017 at 17:51
| @moshkito "Of course, pedigree is important". Amen, thank you, no ifs and no buts. Not necessarily pedigree in terms of training but just possessing a great and versatile instrument. It is also important in acting as well; great actors have great voices with amazing dynamic range (like Daniel Day Lewis in the climax of There Will Be Blood). Inflection is important (and it wasn't only the Hammills or Gabriels who did it, it's just more noticeable in their case because of the theatrical element in their music) but you can't really inflect your way out of a limited voice. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 17 2017 at 08:10
I think you can and some have done it. I don't think that Joe Cocker, Steve Broughton or even Roger Chapman were good singers at all, but they figured out a way to make things sound better than we thought. And their expression was very well received, despite many people not liking that kind of voice in singing for the most part. It also helped that their bands were outstanding (catch the EBB on the Rockpalast DVD), and all of a sudden you have something different and very good, as opposed to ... that voice can't sing, or that voice is really bad. Even Eno has said that he can't sing, but I think he has a super sharp ear that is probably pitch perfect. Nowadays, with so much stuff out there, and so much metal, and other styles of music, a lot of this is less visible, and perhaps we are not looking or finding it, because a lot of music has become so treated and cleaned up that it's really hard to find something like we're discussing. I do think that all these folks have a very reasonable and strong feeling and knowledge for music ... which helps a lot, though. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: November 17 2017 at 08:38
| ^^^ Good, yes (and I mentioned Fagen on similar lines), but not great, at least on the level of Hammill. There has to be some level of virtuosity to regard a singer great (while that too is not the be all end all). There was a better balance between the athletic and artistic aspects of singing in rock then. But again, this has a lot to do with the cleaning up of language itself and the 'othering', if you will, of those who still lie outside the mainstream whereby their authenticity somehow makes them 'weird' and misfits. So you don't get the variety of English accents anymore that you once did and that by itself takes a lot of flavour and character out of singing. The demands of the audience have also changed. If you have noticed, lately a lot of pop singing is excessively staccato, like reciting a nursery rhyme. I simply can't stand that kind of singing with no attempt to draw out notes (not asking for legato, no) so I speculated on why somebody would prefer that approach and one possible reason could be that unless it is sung thus way, the audience feels unable to discern all the words and considers that a drawback. In such a scenario, there is even less room for quaint accents. |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: November 17 2017 at 17:04
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 19 2017 at 08:20
And here is, one of the greatest examples of what should rightly be called the "anti-singer", because Robert is exactly what a Jean-Luc Godard is to his "anti-film" manifestos. If you read Robert's book, (Different Every Time), it pretty much tells you all you need to know. I have a way of saying that Robert is the ULTIMATE LITTLE KID when it comes to music, and his approach to it, is so different and fresh, as to leave you totally ... dumbfounded, by what you heard, that you can't even classify! As such, RW is one of the top vocalists, however, not enough people have heard anything of his to be able to enjoy and appreciate it, and I doubt a metal fan would even bother with 10 seconds of Robert Wyatt. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: SamMac
Date Posted: November 22 2017 at 20:50
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1. Peter Hammill 2. Peter Gabriel 3. Geddy Lee 4. Phil Collins 5. Jon Anderson
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 11 2017 at 10:52
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Hi, Of all the folks named here, I have to agree that PH is probably the best of them all ... and was absolutely wonderful in VdGG and Solo material specially in the 70's and 80's for me! However, I'm not sure that I would leave behind one of the best poets in the music scene, and I think his expression is just as good as PH's with the exception that we do not think that "folk music" is progressive, and does not deserve the poop accolades that we give it. Roy Harper is probably just as good as PH and his output is just as strong and valuable. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: December 11 2017 at 13:44
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Lately I've been appreciating the hell out of.... Jon Oliva (Savatage) Phil Collins ( Genesis ) Ozzy Osbourne ( Solo Career & Black Sabbath works ) Annette Olson ( Nightwish) Ronnie James DIO (DIO, Black Sabbath) Burton C. Bell (Fear Factory) Roger Waters (solo work & Pink Floyd) Rick Davies ( Supertramp) Carl McCoy ( Fields of the Nephilim) Jaz Coleman (Killing Joke) Yeah. I did 10 cause I'm an ass. Happy Holidays all! ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 11 2017 at 19:45
I don't know many of these, but I do find it strange that you put Anette from Nightwish instead of Tarja, or at least Floor. On the other hand, I do love DIO, I believe he is my very favourite Metal singer... though I guess his work was closer to hard rock than to metal. Also, I'm glad Waters gets some love; I do believe he was a great and very unique singer that often gets overlooked... however, I can hardly think of someone capable of putting so much passion and emotion to their singing (specially on the utter despair department). |