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Topic: Progarchives bullies
Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Subject: Progarchives bullies
Date Posted: November 05 2014 at 20:17
I'm just wondering what is the best way to deal with the "bullies" on here. I am talking about people who continually harass others,  make unnecessary comments in posts and deliberately(at least it seems that way)bait others. There is no ignore function for posts so other than just not respond(which I admit is very difficult for me)what is the best way to deal with these negative and abusive people? I can report people until the cows come home but that doesn't seem to do me any good since they could(in theory) report me for reporting them. Thanks in advance for any productive advice on how to deal with these kinds of people.



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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: November 05 2014 at 20:23
Being more passive in responses. 
Taking a break from PA.
Start less threads and respond to them instead.



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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: November 05 2014 at 20:24
Not always easy, generally speaking ignoring helps, I never really bother about it, as generally speaking it's just people not understanding your posts, or your intend, that's their problem, never yours.
 
Unless you do it to yourself, but if your consience is clear, than who cares what others think.


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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: November 05 2014 at 20:24
I've already answer to that, so I'll pass.

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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: November 05 2014 at 20:29


Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: November 05 2014 at 20:39

[Not always easy, generally speaking ignoring helps, I never really bother about it, as generally speaking it's just people not understanding your posts, or your intend, that's their problem, never yours.]

 
Yes that definitely seems to be the case here although I do have a history with this person so that by itself makes it seem personal.  


Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 05 2014 at 21:54
I've been giving this a lot of thought and this is what I've come up with (and this applies everywhere on the Web, not just on PA).

I. I've encountered this kind of thing a few times on YouTube. If we are talking strictly bullies, hardcore bullies, ... unfortunately, the best thing to do is to ignore them. Tempting as it is to just tell them off, it doesn't work; my theory is that's what they expect you to do. I personally don't understand this kind of mentality myself, and tempting as it is for me to try and understand this kind of mentality, another part to the aforementioned theory is ... that's another thing that the bullies expect of you. Just don't bother with them. Think of them as spam.

II. However, if we are talking the kind of people who tend to get emotional or senselessly arrogant every now and then; the kind that tends to use negative language ("Apparently, you don't know this or that", or "Obviously, you've never been here or there"), the kind that tends to make disparaging remarks about someone's intelligence; or the kind that makes indirect, sarcastic remarks* (maybe not with malicious intent), then I recommend the following options:

0) This is imperative: choose your words wisely. Think positively. Be sensible, not sensitive. Pay attention to the language you are using (as mentioned in the paragraph above). Some people just don't care for that, but I hope you do.
1) Try to trump you feelings about what words that person used and try to have an intelligent conversation with that same person on a different topic;
2) Try to trump you feelings about what words that person used and put yourself in his/her shoes, look at the topic from his/her angle;
3) Ignore them. Don't say anything. Making a remark about the person to anyone or anywhere will accomplish nothing and it does not help the forum on any level in the slightest. Don't try to correct anything or anybody or investigate into that other person's nature. If you've tried all the points above that I've suggested, then you probably know: it's not you.

Never take anything negative too personal. If I see someone talk crap about what I said, I think "A-a-a-ah, crud!" and move on.


* Sarcasm works here about 50% of the time. In any case, I would not encourage it here on this forum.




Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: November 05 2014 at 21:55
Originally posted by Prog_Traveller Prog_Traveller wrote:

I'm just wondering what is the best way to deal with the "bullies" on here. I am talking about people who continually harass others,  make unnecessary comments in posts and deliberately(at least it seems that way)bait others. There is no ignore function for posts so other than just not respond(which I admit is very difficult for me)what is the best way to deal with these negative and abusive people? I can report people until the cows come home but that doesn't seem to do me any good since they could(in theory) report me for reporting them. Thanks in advance for any productive advice on how to deal with these kinds of people.
 
Awww Prog_Traveller Hug big hug.
Some comments you should "take with a pinch of salt", it not personal. Doesn't matter how we got here, the fact is that we all share a great interest in this genre of music as diverse it may seem. 
Do not take it to heart, we have a few grumpies on here but once you get passed what one might perceive as a bad sarcastic jokesLOL, you'll find that people here are actually very nice.
I too at first wasn't sure if this is were I should be but quickly warmed up to everyone. I decided to hug them to death (they had no choice in this matter) even if they hated that hihihi  WinkLOL
This is a site of people coming together for the purpose I mentioned above, forum topics too can be most interesting and stimulating while elsewhere you might NOT get this.
 
Please do not let negative experience cloud your judgment, don't take it to heart.
 
Another big hug to you Hug 


Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: November 05 2014 at 21:58
Thanks for the words of encouragement and big hugs right back at you Kati. Hug


Posted By: Engine
Date Posted: November 05 2014 at 22:10
Can I have one ?
 I mean ... I've not had any bad experiences yet but just in case like ? Hug


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: November 05 2014 at 22:12
Originally posted by Engine Engine wrote:

Can I have one ?
 I mean ... I've not had any bad experiences yet but just in case like ? Hug
 
Yay of course yes! Big smileHug


Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 05 2014 at 22:15
Originally posted by Engine Engine wrote:

Can I have one ?
 I mean ... I've not had any bad experiences yet but just in case like ? Hug
Oui. Any time. Kati is your go-to girl for hugzies.


Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: November 05 2014 at 22:15
Sonia has found a person that can keep up with hugs?

Impossible. 


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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: November 05 2014 at 22:15
Ok. I'm getting jealous now. Lol.


Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 05 2014 at 22:15
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Sonia has found a person that can keep up with hugs?

Impossible. 
 Post of the day.


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: November 05 2014 at 22:20
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Sonia has found a person that can keep up with hugs?

Impossible. 
 Post of the day.
 
hahaha you two, you both should know coz I have hugged you to death many times lolol haha! LOL haha I am laughing here haha!!! LOL
 
Group hug Hug


Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: November 05 2014 at 22:44
Ok. I'm going to get a ticket to Mozambique just so I can get a hug from Sonia(or is it Kati). J/K. ;)


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: November 05 2014 at 22:47
Originally posted by Prog_Traveller Prog_Traveller wrote:

Ok. I'm going to get a ticket to Mozambique just so I can get a hug from Sonia(or is it Kati). J/K. ;)
 
Shocked both that's me WinkBig smile however I am also a nincompoop LOL a happy one Smile


Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 00:14
Me too at least until I learn how to ignore the real poopy heads on here. ;)
 
Yes you are very happy. You always take your happy pills. :D


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 00:19
Originally posted by Prog_Traveller Prog_Traveller wrote:

Me too at least until I learn how to ignore the real poopy heads on here. ;)
 
Yes you are very happy. You always take your happy pills. :D
 
Poopy heads I bet you'll love everyone very soon once you become accustomed and yes in one way or another we all are demented here and probably belong in Bedlam Big smile Wink hugs Hug


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 00:29
I'm a bit of a tough guy but I also am highly compassionate, especially around internet bullying.   I don't take to bullies very well and like to consider myself a bully-basher, but of course that occasionally makes me the very thing I'm against.   However, once in a while fire must be fought with fire, and so, PT, in addition to the brilliant advice given by Dayvenkirq, I would say if you get harassed again in the future, let me know and I'll "explain things to them".  

Capishe
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 00:34
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

I'm a bit of a tough guy but I also am highly compassionate, especially around internet bullying.   I don't take to bullies very well and like to consider myself a bully-basher, but of course that occasionally makes me the very thing I'm against.   However, once in a while fire must be fought with fire, and so, PT, in addition to the brilliant advice given by Dayvenkirq, I would say if you get harassed again in the future, let me know and I'll "explain things to them".  

Capishe
?  

 
Atavachron Hug
 capisci LOL loved that and your whole comment above, you are sweet! xxx


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 00:38
This thread is taking a worrying path.

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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 00:42
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

I'm a bit of a tough guy but I also am highly compassionate, especially around internet bullying.   I don't take to bullies very well and like to consider myself a bully-basher, but of course that occasionally makes me the very thing I'm against.   However, once in a while fire must be fought with fire, and so, PT, in addition to the brilliant advice given by Dayvenkirq, I would say if you get harassed again in the future, let me know and I'll "explain things to them".  

Capishe
?  

 
Atavachron Hug
 capisci LOL loved that and your whole comment above, you are sweet! xxx
 
Speaking of such but not related to this original topic, just for fun coz it's an Italian pun joke here you go Big smile hugs Hug


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 00:43
Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

This thread is taking a worrying path.

Hey we're family here, and I look out for my family.




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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 00:46
I am certainly guilty sometimes of being what Sonia refers to as a "grumpy" person. Hands up to that.

However, grumpy posts, and exasperated ones for all that, are very different to bullying someone. The latter is a deliberate act which causes untold grief and pain, sometimes with very serious consequences.

I do not know of anyone on this site that could be described as an internet bully, troll, call it what you will. That is because we have an excellent system of governance, far more than most other sites I know of.

So, if you feel bullied, then contact an admin by PM, and they will judge the matter. That is what they are there for.

If, btw, anyone takes exception to a post I make, they are welcome to contact me. I will always apologise when I am out of order.

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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 00:47
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

This thread is taking a worrying path.

Hey we're family here, and I look out for my family.


Hug Group hug inc. Barbu, he can run but he cannot hide WinkLOLHug


Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 00:47
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

I'm a bit of a tough guy but I also am highly compassionate, especially around internet bullying.   I don't take to bullies very well and like to consider myself a bully-basher, but of course that occasionally makes me the very thing I'm against.   However, once in a while fire must be fought with fire, and so, PT, in addition to the brilliant advice given by Dayvenkirq, I would say if you get harassed again in the future, let me know and I'll "explain things to them".  

Capishe
?  

 
Thanks. I believe it's "capiche" though. Smile 
 
I'm actually a tough guy too when I need to be. I think that usually it's only cowards or really insecure people who have to give others a hard time online though. You do it to my face in person and I won't be so nice about it. ;) But yeah since you are a collaborator on here I will send you a personal message next time it happens but hopefully the person in question will see this and back off from now on and leave me the f*** alone. :)


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 00:51
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

This thread is taking a worrying path.

Hey we're family here, and I look out for my family.



Hug Group hug inc. Barbu, he can run but he cannot hide WinkLOLHug

Run? lol



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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 00:52
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

I am certainly guilty sometimes of being what Sonia refers to as a "grumpy" person. Hands up to that.

However, grumpy posts, and exasperated ones for all that, are very different to bullying someone. The latter is a deliberate act which causes untold grief and pain, sometimes with very serious consequences.

I do not know of anyone on this site that could be described as an internet bully, troll, call it what you will. That is because we have an excellent system of governance, far more than most other sites I know of.

So, if you feel bullied, then contact an admin by PM, and they will judge the matter. That is what they are there for.

If, btw, anyone takes exception to a post I make, they are welcome to contact me. I will always apologise when I am out of order.
 
Awww nooo ... Lazland, you have a dry sense of humour and at times you are very sensible too but hahaha nope nah niet nao non etc at your worst I would rate you max at middle level grumpy hahaha!! lololol you are funny even if at times this was not your intent hahaha hugs Hug


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 00:54
Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

This thread is taking a worrying path.

Hey we're family here, and I look out for my family.



Hug Group hug inc. Barbu, he can run but he cannot hide WinkLOLHug

Run? lol

hahahaha!!! Yay!!!! hug! Hughugs are so much more fun! xx


Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 01:05
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

I am certainly guilty sometimes of being what Sonia refers to as a "grumpy" person. Hands up to that.

However, grumpy posts, and exasperated ones for all that, are very different to bullying someone. The latter is a deliberate act which causes untold grief and pain, sometimes with very serious consequences.

I do not know of anyone on this site that could be described as an internet bully, troll, call it what you will. That is because we have an excellent system of governance, far more than most other sites I know of.

So, if you feel bullied, then contact an admin by PM, and they will judge the matter. That is what they are there for.

If, btw, anyone takes exception to a post I make, they are welcome to contact me. I will always apologise when I am out of order.
 
If you want I can send to you via pm the exact thread or posts by this person then you can judge for yourself.  I admit that I have a low tolerance for negativity and unnecessary comments but that doesn't excuse the snippy and unnecessary comments from this person. I don't mean to vilify this person as I know he/she is respected on here but this person has told me in the past they would leave me alone and yet continues to be a nuisance. I can't help but think that this person just has a chip on his/her shoulder and knows they can get away with it. If they are reading this now I can tell them that they are mistaken.


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 01:11
Originally posted by Prog_Traveller Prog_Traveller wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

I am certainly guilty sometimes of being what Sonia refers to as a "grumpy" person. Hands up to that.

However, grumpy posts, and exasperated ones for all that, are very different to bullying someone. The latter is a deliberate act which causes untold grief and pain, sometimes with very serious consequences.

I do not know of anyone on this site that could be described as an internet bully, troll, call it what you will. That is because we have an excellent system of governance, far more than most other sites I know of.

So, if you feel bullied, then contact an admin by PM, and they will judge the matter. That is what they are there for.

If, btw, anyone takes exception to a post I make, they are welcome to contact me. I will always apologise when I am out of order.
 
If you want I can send to you via pm the exact thread or posts by this person then you can judge for yourself.  I admit that I have a low tolerance for negativity and unnecessary comments. I don't mean to vilify this person as I know he/she is respected on here but this person has told me in the past they would leave me alone and yet continues to be a nuisance. I can't help but think that this person just has a chip on his/her shoulder and knows they can get away with it. If they are reading this now I can tell them that they are mistaken.
 
Prog_Traveller,
 
I think you got the idea that you are most welcome and not to take everything said seriously. Unless someone physically threatened you or directly insulted and mentally abused you, I think we should leave it as this. That person who hurt/offended you might read this post too. You are sweet, leave it as it is now. Hugs xxxx 


Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 01:30

Well most message boards have at least one troll including this one. But yeah I'm just going to let it rest from now on unless I need to take more action.

Thanks. Hugs back to you. Can I give you the nickname prog princess? ;)


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 01:53
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

I'm a bit of a tough guy but I also am highly compassionate, especially around internet bullying.   I don't take to bullies very well and like to consider myself a bully-basher, but of course that occasionally makes me the very thing I'm against.   However, once in a while fire must be fought with fire, and so, PT, in addition to the brilliant advice given by Dayvenkirq, I would say if you get harassed again in the future, let me know and I'll "explain things to them".  

Capishe
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He is referring to me David. I hadn't made the connection until I saw this thread that Mr Prog_Traveller is the same person I had an unfortunate run-in with back in July over some silly misunderstanding (on his part). Today I had the temerity to voice my disapproval of two polls with the word "cheesy" in their leading poll question. Apparently this constitutes "bullying" and "harassing", and that makes me a "troll".



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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 01:59
[He is referring to me David. I hadn't made the connection until I saw this thread that Mr Prog_Traveller is the same person I had an unfortunate run-in with back in July over some silly misunderstanding (on his part). Today I had the temerity to voice my disapproval of two polls with the word "cheesy" in their leading poll question. Apparently this constitutes "bullying" and "harassing", and that makes me a "troll".]
 
 
 
Yeah, but it's the way you go about it. You aren't diplomatic at all. If you want I can post the conversation here and let everyone decide for themselves. Then they get to see how you initiate the baiting and unnecessarily negative comments.  I don't understand why you just can't keep your negative comments to yourself. You obviously have some kind of personal issues where you just can't leave well enough alone. Others on here might tolerate it but I won't. YOu do it again and I will report you and now that you outed yourself hopefully you will learn and not do it again(somehow I doubt you are capable of that though since you love to bait people). Oh and being a former moderator on here does not excuse your bad behavior. Before anyone accuses me of attacking him or being aggressive let me just so that Dean is the only person on here I have ever had a serious issue with and if it wasn't for his negativity I would not have to resort to posting this thread in the first place.


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 02:01
*sigh*

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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 02:04
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

I'm a bit of a tough guy but I also am highly compassionate, especially around internet bullying.   I don't take to bullies very well and like to consider myself a bully-basher, but of course that occasionally makes me the very thing I'm against.   However, once in a while fire must be fought with fire, and so, PT, in addition to the brilliant advice given by Dayvenkirq, I would say if you get harassed again in the future, let me know and I'll "explain things to them".  

Capishe
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He is referring to me David. I hadn't made the connection until I saw this thread that Mr Prog_Traveller is the same person I had an unfortunate run-in with back in July over some silly misunderstanding (on his part). Today I had the temerity to voice my disapproval of two polls with the word "cheesy" in their leading poll question. Apparently this constitutes "bullying" and "harassing", and that makes me a "troll".

 
Aww this is clearly a misunderstanding.
 
Dean you are very Grumpy at times true but  Prog_Traveller is completely mistaken about you really, you are very nice even when grumpy. I just met him, I like him he is very mischievous too just like me but also mistaken about you Dean and your no nonsense attitude added with your dark witty humour might be perceived as a negative but it's absolutely not!. You are my fav grumpy, I mentioned this many times before and in my scale, you are top level grumpy at a time hahahaha hehehe hihihi hohoho LOL hugs Hug love you, you grumpy cuddly thing! LOL


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 02:04
you both should drop it and leave this as a misunderstanding.
There are much more interesting things to squabble about, I much prefer to focus on very silly happy things Big smile


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 02:05
When you start two negative threads at the same time you're bound to get negative feedback. Putting the word 'cheesy' in any thread title invites people's vile. You don't jump in a swimmingpool if you're afraid to get wet. Same here: if you don't want people posting negative things in your threads, then don't invite them to begin with

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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 02:12

Ok. I agree. I'll drop it. We should all just act like one big family(one big prog family). Oh wait, families do fight and argue sometimes so I guess the family comparison is appropriate.  Smile



Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 02:15
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

When you start two negative threads at the same time you're bound to get negative feedback. Putting the word 'cheesy' in any thread title invites people's vile. You don't jump in a swimmingpool if you're afraid to get wet. Same here: if you don't want people posting negative things in your threads, then don't invite them to begin with
 
I said it before but I'll say it again. It was not my intention to be deliberately negative. It is others who interpreted the word "cheesy" as negative not me. I just wanted to see if that description was accurate and as it turns out it was as far as how some fans feel about the music. I don't understand what is so wrong with a little cheese now and then. People say some albums I really like are cheesy and that's fine. It's up to how others how they want to interpret it. However, if it's not one thing it's another with certain people on here. I'm convinced of that. Most people had no problem with my polls. A few did and most of them expressed their opinion in a polite and civilized way.
 
If I said I wanted to see if people considered certain albums to be sleepy is that a bad thing too? Some people would interpret that as them being boring. Maybe I'm just looking for opinions about what albums are good to fall asleep to. See, it's all about how you chose to interpret things. Smile 
 
I do apologize to those who were offended by my polls and thought they were negative. As they say you can't please everyone. I will just suggest to you guys not to take the polls so seriously. There was no personal attacks in the polls themselves and not even on anyone's tastes but still some of you guys were clearly offended by it even though it was not my intention to offend anyone.
 
By the way, does anyone know of any good prog lawyers? I think I need one now. Wink


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 02:31
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

I'm a bit of a tough guy but I also am highly compassionate, especially around internet bullying.   I don't take to bullies very well and like to consider myself a bully-basher, but of course that occasionally makes me the very thing I'm against.   However, once in a while fire must be fought with fire, and so, PT, in addition to the brilliant advice given by Dayvenkirq, I would say if you get harassed again in the future, let me know and I'll "explain things to them".  

Capishe
?
He is referring to me David. I hadn't made the connection until I saw this thread that Mr Prog_Traveller is the same person I had an unfortunate run-in with back in July over some silly misunderstanding (on his part). Today I had the temerity to voice my disapproval of two polls with the word "cheesy" in their leading poll question. Apparently this constitutes "bullying" and "harassing", and that makes me a "troll".

Damn--  I was so looking forward to kicking some troll's ass all over the forums.   Where are they when you need 'em.   Good times.



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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 02:40
Earlier tonight I saw these two guys staring at each other. For a little while it looked like a staring contest and I briefly thought they were going to go at it and start throwing punches. However, it turns out they knew each other and right before it got intense they hugged each other.
 
 
Anyway,  I don't know what to say except now you know who I have been having problems with. Should I just not post on here anymore since obviously certain people can get away with being a troll? I really am not interested in participating in the wild west of prog forums so maybe that's the best thing for me to do.


Posted By: Darious
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 02:45
Originally posted by Prog_Traveller Prog_Traveller wrote:

Ok. I agree. I'll drop it. We should all just act like one big family(one big prog family). Oh wait, families do fight and argue sometimes so I guess the family comparison is appropriate.  Smile
Good lad! Now let's go back to our discussions about prog. Actually, I don't quite like the "prog" term. Somehow it reminds me about "proctology" for some silly reason. "Art rock" - this sounds and looks far more appropriate! But, I guess, the majority already made their decision..


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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 02:46
Originally posted by Prog_Traveller Prog_Traveller wrote:

Earlier tonight I saw these two guys staring at each other. For a little while it looked like a staring contest and I briefly thought they were going to go at it and start throwing punches. However, it turns out they knew each other and right before it got intense they hugged each other.
 
 
Anyway,  I don't know what to say except now you know who I have been having problems with. Should I just not post on here anymore since obviously certain people can get away with being a troll? I really am not interested in participating in the wild west of prog forums so maybe that's the best thing for me to do.
Prog_Traveller, I love your spunkiness and direct approach lol but believe me no one here especially the above are bullies, when you get to know them you'll love them. It's easy to misperceive or misunderstand things, Dean is very direct and at times might seem harsh but he is one of the most sweetest people on here, I like him a lot. You two should leave it and rather focus your energy on funny and very silly things :) xxxxx   


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 02:47
Originally posted by Prog_Traveller Prog_Traveller wrote:

Earlier tonight I saw these two guys staring at each other. For a little while it looked like a staring contest and I briefly thought they were going to go at it and start throwing punches. However, it turns out they knew each other and right before it got intense they hugged each other.

Anyway,  I don't know what to say except now you know who I have been having problems with. Should I just not post on here anymore since obviously certain people can get away with being a troll? I really am not interested in participating in the wild west of prog forums so maybe that's the best thing for me to do.

Well that's a bit of a loaded question, but I will say that this is the wild west of prog forums, it's the big leagues and that's why I like it.   Serious music lovers of the most arrogant variety.   And you are a part of that too.   Embrace it.



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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 02:49
GROUP HUG Hug


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 03:04
Originally posted by Prog_Traveller Prog_Traveller wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

When you start two negative threads at the same time you're bound to get negative feedback. Putting the word 'cheesy' in any thread title invites people's vile. You don't jump in a swimmingpool if you're afraid to get wet. Same here: if you don't want people posting negative things in your threads, then don't invite them to begin with
 
I said it before but I'll say it again. It was not my intention to be deliberately negative. It is others who interpreted the word "cheesy" as negative not me. I just wanted to see if that description was accurate and as it turns out it was as far as how some fans feel about the music. I don't understand what is so wrong with a little cheese now and then. People say some albums I really like are cheesy and that's fine. It's up to how others how they want to interpret it. However, if it's not one thing it's another with certain people on here. I'm convinced of that. Most people had no problem with my polls. A few did and most of them expressed their opinion in a polite and civilized way.
 
If I said I wanted to see if people considered certain albums to be sleepy is that a bad thing too? Some people would interpret that as them being boring. Maybe I'm just looking for opinions about what albums are good to fall asleep to. See, it's all about how you chose to interpret things. Smile 
 
I do apologize to those who were offended by my polls and thought they were negative. As they say you can't please everyone. I will just suggest to you guys not to take the polls so seriously. There was no personal attacks in the polls themselves and not even on anyone's tastes but still some of you guys were clearly offended by it even though it was not my intention to offend anyone.
 
By the way, does anyone know of any good prog lawyers? I think I need one now. Wink


Sorry but that's bollocks. You've been around this place for long enough to know what 'cheesy' means, or else you wouldn't have posted threads relating to both Metal and Neo. You used that deliberately as a way to seek out a reaction in people. Well you got it. Now you're just making a backwards explanation in order to have us all look at Dean like the bully he really is... Nahh He saw through you like he's done before, and you can't handle that. There I said it. If you can't handle that, then yes you should probably look around for other prog sites. 
Also you've started another thread exactly like this before, where you too tried to hang Dean out to dry. It didn't take, so now when you're engaged with him once again on the backbone of something you yourself started, you come crying with your troubles. 

Either take it to PM with him, me or any other admin. This is not worth the space of data. 


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