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bhikkhu ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 06 2006 Location: A² Michigan Status: Offline Points: 5109 |
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In the wake of the recent melee over the latest Proto-Prog addition, I feel it is time for me to speak up. This is not about the merits of any band in Proto or Related, but I think there is an overt amount of attention paid to those bands. There have been many new full prog bands added, but you hardly see anyone talking about them. With the Exception of Erik's "Symphonic Progressive Rock Appreciation Thread," most of the activity in the "Prog Music Lounge" is about the same big names. Even then, I find it to be one of the less active lounges.
It's time for us to ask ourselves why we are here. Progressive music is supposed to be the focus of the site. I also think that many of us came here with hopes of discovering something new. However, that can't happen if we are only talking about the most well know artists, or proto/related artists that are played daily on every classic rock station. So, I am embarking on a crusade to bring forth new artists, and hidden old gems. I plan on starting threads dedicated to this venture. Erik already started a while back, but we need more. I hope I will find support in this venture. It's a good bet that most of what I bring up will be symphonic, because that's what I know best. I am looking to others to unveil some of their lesser-known favorites. So what do you say? Let's (prog) Rock! |
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Dim ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 17 2007 Location: Austin TX Status: Offline Points: 6890 |
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I have already convicted a lot of the people watting there precious posts on the just for fun discussions with my "foolish people" thread.
And I will gladly help...
but I do not know where to look/start! Edited by schizoid_man77 - July 25 2007 at 15:23 |
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bhikkhu ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 06 2006 Location: A² Michigan Status: Offline Points: 5109 |
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Got a band you like that the bulk of the people around here don't know about? Start talking about it. I have begun one thread already in the Prog Music Lounge.
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Atkingani ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: October 21 2005 Location: Terra Brasilis Status: Offline Points: 12288 |
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That's the reason I promote the Unsigned Bands forum (prog future is there) but with few exceptions no one really cares too much about them.
Anyway, a couple of bands there are going to the studios and soon they'll be here requesting their inclusion via the Suggest forum.
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bhikkhu ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 06 2006 Location: A² Michigan Status: Offline Points: 5109 |
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What I am pushing here is discussion about the vast number of bands already listed on the site. I couldn't even list the number of Symphonic bands, off the top of my head, that never get mentioned.
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Jimbo ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 28 2005 Location: Helsinki Status: Offline Points: 2818 |
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I agree wholeheartedly!
![]() Assaf's various threads have been hugely helpful in this regard, but we definitely need more. I personally haven't found the energy to create such threads knowing that they'll only get 0-3 responses, but maybe that should change. |
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Angelo ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 07 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13244 |
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Yes! Let's have some threads about bands like Embryo, Erlkoenig, Centipede, Flairck, and many many others that are rarely mentioned.
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Ricochet ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
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I'll support this how I can. I lately listened to much more than my prog classics, so I probably could be good in some of this desired direction.
I'm also thinking to revive the Art Rock Appreciation Thread Ben once started and to give more introspective in the entire genre, through that topic. (but I'm not yet convinced that I'll do this). |
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Fassbinder ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: May 27 2006 Location: My world Status: Offline Points: 3497 |
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It's a very good idea, actually. Very "healthy".
I'd like to see the revival of this forum with some interesting discussions on some (relatively) new issues.
Hopefully, this idea will come true, sometime...
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erik neuteboom ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
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Great effort Bhikkhu, straight from your progrock heart Let's unite and keep ourselves motivated and let's focus on the good things instead of drowning in the swamp of complains about negative things and loosing energy during personal clashes, fellow progheads/symphomaniacs
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Dim ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 17 2007 Location: Austin TX Status: Offline Points: 6890 |
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If I made a topic about pelican, would any of you all check it?
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chamberry ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 24 2005 Location: Puerto Rico Status: Offline Points: 9008 |
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^^^ I will. You can talk about them in the Experimental/Post-rock appreciation thread too. There was a slight conversation about them a couple of days ago.
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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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There's an old saying, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink". The simple fact is that people tend to focus on bands they are familiar with. You only have to look at the number of views of threads about less well known bands to see how they are ignored.
The proto prog and prog related sections serve well to bring people into the site. We would not have been nearly as successful without them. The challenge for our collaborators is therefore, now that we have them here, how do we educate them in the wide range of music which is here?
The obvious answer would be to share the music, but that brings with it copyright issues. So what can we do to encourage people to investigate and discuss less well known bands.
I don't have the answers. What I would say though is don't blame the PR and PP categories, without them many of our members would not be here to present the prog bands to.
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kazansky ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 24 2006 Location: Indonesia Status: Offline Points: 5085 |
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exactly what i thought. most people will simply ignore them, especially when it comes to a certain sub-genre |
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The devil we blame our atrocities on is really just each one of us.
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bhikkhu ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 06 2006 Location: A² Michigan Status: Offline Points: 5109 |
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I am under no illusion that the old discussions won't continue as always. However, there are plenty of members here that have the lesser known stuff, but still get dragged into the the topics concerning the well covered artists. I am just trying to encourage some alternate topics. I'm sure there are members that want to discover some of these oddities that we love. There are also people that never get the chance to talk about these bands, because they think no one wants to. |
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bhikkhu ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 06 2006 Location: A² Michigan Status: Offline Points: 5109 |
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Really? Take a look at my "Special New Artist" thread, or Erik's "Symphonic Appreciation" thread. |
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kazansky ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 24 2006 Location: Indonesia Status: Offline Points: 5085 |
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yep, i started a few in the past. that's why i said that |
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The devil we blame our atrocities on is really just each one of us.
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bhikkhu ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 06 2006 Location: A² Michigan Status: Offline Points: 5109 |
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Don't give up my friend. It is apathy that will kill the adventurer's spirit. ![]() |
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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It's funny, HT and me (We chat almost every night) keep updated with rare stuff not because of the forum, but in most cases because in our chats we end talking about bands we never heard before and it's a challenge for us to find something about the band the other one mentioned the last night.
This is what we need in the forum, open the interest of people for unknown stuff, I don't know if we will achive full success, but every step we give is an advance..
I just hope people join this cruzade to rescue Prog, I see a positive attitude, relation between Collaborators is better than ever, Erik has helped us with many additions and his thread is a great source of information,. Art Rock team has a lot of feedback, Sean and Folk also, this can work..
So, lets not leave it in words.
Iván
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