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Jules Verne was a French writer. 
I'm confused. ConfusedSmile


His adventure novels; the above, '20,000 Leagues Under The Sea' and 'Around The World in 80 Days', were enormously popular in middle-class Victorian England...
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

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Of course, Rick Wakeman has nothing to do with Genesis, but his album(s) featuring the iconic Jules Verne theme screams with all its grandeur as Victorian prog and certainly deserves an honourable mention!

Jules Verne was a French writer. 
I'm confused. ConfusedSmile

Don't be confused. The Victorian era was notable for hasty industrialisation and scientific progress, which made Verne's themes particularly resonant with the audiences on both sides of the channel. His ability to blend adventure with scientific inquiry appealed to readers in Great Britain who were fascinated by exploration and discovery during the Victorian era. Even if Jules Verne's novels first struggled for wider popularity in England due to translation issues at the time, his books did gain recognition in Victorian-era Britain as the readers here appreciated their adventurous spirit and scientific imagination.
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Originally posted by Starshiper Starshiper wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Starshiper Starshiper wrote:

Of course, Rick Wakeman has nothing to do with Genesis, but his album(s) featuring the iconic Jules Verne theme screams with all its grandeur as Victorian prog and certainly deserves an honourable mention!

Jules Verne was a French writer. 
I'm confused. ConfusedSmile

Don't be confused. The Victorian era was notable for hasty industrialisation and scientific progress, which made Verne's themes particularly resonant with the audiences on both sides of the channel. His ability to blend adventure with scientific inquiry appealed to readers in Great Britain who were fascinated by exploration and discovery during the Victorian era. Even if Jules Verne's novels first struggled for wider popularity in England due to translation issues at the time, his books did gain recognition in Victorian-era Britain as the readers here appreciated their adventurous spirit and scientific imagination.

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Starshiper Starshiper wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Starshiper Starshiper wrote:

Of course, Rick Wakeman has nothing to do with Genesis, but his album(s) featuring the iconic Jules Verne theme screams with all its grandeur as Victorian prog and certainly deserves an honourable mention!

Jules Verne was a French writer. 
I'm confused. ConfusedSmile

Don't be confused. The Victorian era was notable for hasty industrialisation and scientific progress, which made Verne's themes particularly resonant with the audiences on both sides of the channel. His ability to blend adventure with scientific inquiry appealed to readers in Great Britain who were fascinated by exploration and discovery during the Victorian era. Even if Jules Verne's novels first struggled for wider popularity in England due to translation issues at the time, his books did gain recognition in Victorian-era Britain as the readers here appreciated their adventurous spirit and scientific imagination.

Chat GPT, is that you?!


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Originally posted by Starshiper Starshiper wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Starshiper Starshiper wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Starshiper Starshiper wrote:

Of course, Rick Wakeman has nothing to do with Genesis, but his album(s) featuring the iconic Jules Verne theme screams with all its grandeur as Victorian prog and certainly deserves an honourable mention!

Jules Verne was a French writer. 
I'm confused. ConfusedSmile

Don't be confused. The Victorian era was notable for hasty industrialisation and scientific progress, which made Verne's themes particularly resonant with the audiences on both sides of the channel. His ability to blend adventure with scientific inquiry appealed to readers in Great Britain who were fascinated by exploration and discovery during the Victorian era. Even if Jules Verne's novels first struggled for wider popularity in England due to translation issues at the time, his books did gain recognition in Victorian-era Britain as the readers here appreciated their adventurous spirit and scientific imagination.

Chat GPT, is that you?!


This is a screenshot of the result after my text was "checked" for you via AI detector. I'm doing this as a gesture of goodwill, but it's also the last time I'm doing this, so please don't accuse me again that I post AI-generated texts.





Ok, my bad. 
So an album inspired by a French writer, written and performed by a British artist in the 70s is Victorian prog. Got it... I only listen to Vlad Țepeș  prog, so I'm confused. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

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I'd say, to me it sounds more like Svetonio, rather than AI :v
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

So an album inspired by a French writer, written and performed by a British artist in the 70s is Victorian prog. Got it... I only listen to Vlad Țepeș  prog, so I'm confused. 
While I don't know how Vlad Tepes prog sounds, I believe that 'Victorian Prog' has to have strong romantic and pompous elements due to the character of the Victorian era. For instance, the Italian band Mangala Vallis musically nailed it with their album called Microsolco.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Chat GPT, is that you?
I'd say, to me it sounds more like Svetonio, rather than AI :v

That's possible. LOL

(for a second I thought it was Svetty using ChatGPT)


Edited by Cristi - September 19 2024 at 04:12
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Funny how someone tried to poo poo my suggestion of Geese and the Ghost. LOL  Victorian or not you won't find many albums more similar to Nursery Cryme or Trespass than that one. ;)

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - September 19 2024 at 18:35
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Funny how someone tried to poo poo my suggestion of Geese and the Ghost. LOL  Victorian or not you won't find many albums more similar to Nursery Cryme or Trespass than that one. ;)
Well, actually, it's not so difficult to find albums that are much more similar to Nursery Cryme than Anthony Phillips' debut solo effort. The 1972 self-titled first album by Banco del Mutuo Soccorso is, for example, far more musically akin to Nursery Cryme; also, although being sung in Italian, this record musically satisfies the criteria for 'Victorian Prog' superior to The Geese and the Ghost in every way, because, as I said earlier, that album (which I like) would fit a folkish 'The Elizabeathan era Prog'.
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Whatever you say Svettie. ;)

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - September 20 2024 at 16:34
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In an age where one could hardly trust a railway timetable, it seemed only fitting that Victorians would turn to spirit mediums for a more reliable connection to the other side. Therefore, as my last suggestion on this lovely topic, I would also like to suggest the 1972 album "Ys" by Il Balletto di Bronzo because of its haunting atmosphere.
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looks like SteamProg -
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Originally posted by Starshiper Starshiper wrote:

In an age where one could hardly trust a railway timetable, it seemed only fitting that Victorians would turn to spirit mediums for a more reliable connection to the other side. Therefore, as my last suggestion on this lovely topic, I would also like to suggest the 1972 album "Ys" by Il Balletto di Bronzo because of its haunting atmosphere.


If you think YS sounds more like early Genesis than Geese and the Ghost then you are out of your friggin mind.Tongue
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Starshiper Starshiper wrote:

In an age where one could hardly trust a railway timetable, it seemed only fitting that Victorians would turn to spirit mediums for a more reliable connection to the other side. Therefore, as my last suggestion on this lovely topic, I would also like to suggest the 1972 album "Ys" by Il Balletto di Bronzo because of its haunting atmosphere.


If you think YS sounds more like early Genesis than Geese and the Ghost then you are out of your friggin mind.Tongue
Oh, I'm very sorry! Gosh, I must confess that I failed to achieve a clear explanation, which everyone might understand, why I suggested Il Balleto di Bronzo... Anyway, if "Genesis" is actually the main demand in this topic, here is another Italian band, Submarine Silence. Their albums, adorned with nothing less than Paul Whitehead's Victorian-era style illustrations, should come into play.
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