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Hi,

To be honest, I don't listen to MUSIC to think of what kind it is. 

And, I, certainly do not listen to "prog" or any other kind of music, depending on my moods, specially when there are times when a surprise is the best medicine for the moment.

It's just bizarre, weird, and strange, that we look at all this as some kind of commercial adventure and have little, if any appreciation for ALL MUSIC in the process. Like saying jazz doesn't have that. The musicians in Bali couldn't possibly have anything in their music for you, EVER. A lot of African music is the same. And then making the same issue of things like major is happy and minor is sad which is not true, within a book, is kind of scary for me, and a call for some kind of gawd of generalization ... something that in this day and age is impossible with so many folks in the planet ... and so much music ... and who gives a duck about listening to anything else but the top ten listed by yet another person!

Sorry ... nothing personal ... but we either improve/elevate the music beyond "song" or what we know as prog or progressive will be dead soon, and deservedly so because of the mentality surrounding it.

What is your choice?
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The very best of luck with this, Ryan... it's nice to see there's another 'progger' residing in the Welsh Marches! Have you thought about raising it's profile in Broad Sheep?
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,

To be honest, I don't listen to MUSIC to think of what kind it is. 

And, I, certainly do not listen to "prog" or any other kind of music, depending on my moods, specially when there are times when a surprise is the best medicine for the moment.

It's just bizarre, weird, and strange, that we look at all this as some kind of commercial adventure and have little, if any appreciation for ALL MUSIC in the process. Like saying jazz doesn't have that. The musicians in Bali couldn't possibly have anything in their music for you, EVER. A lot of African music is the same. And then making the same issue of things like major is happy and minor is sad which is not true, within a book, is kind of scary for me, and a call for some kind of gawd of generalization ... something that in this day and age is impossible with so many folks in the planet ... and so much music ... and who gives a duck about listening to anything else but the top ten listed by yet another person!

Sorry ... nothing personal ... but we either improve/elevate the music beyond "song" or what we know as prog or progressive will be dead soon, and deservedly so because of the mentality surrounding it.

What is your choice?

That’s fine. The books not for you. It’s a very specific type of book. Read along whilst listening to a range of music that could be considered progressive. Also contains a section for recording thoughts and opinions journal style.
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

The very best of luck with this, Ryan... it's nice to see there's another 'progger' residing in the Welsh Marches! Have you thought about raising it's profile in Broad Sheep?

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Originally posted by RyanYardMusic RyanYardMusic wrote:

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That’s fine. The books not for you. It’s a very specific type of book. Read along whilst listening to a range of music that could be considered progressive. Also contains a section for recording thoughts and opinions journal style.

Hi,

"Prog/Progressive" is an illusion that we have created. FOR ME, ANY MUSIC is not an ILLUSION, but a REALITY ... that is, it is about that person or persons, and what they bring in to add to the dinner table, so to speak.

While I can appreciate the good will in your endeavor, it reminds me of two books that have been around a long time ... PETER MICHAEL HAMEL had a book (From Music To The Self) that is a really difficult read for most of us, since he goes through a lot of African and Eastern music, as if it was his playground ... something that we have a hard time doing since we are not musically free from the more mechanical Westernized styles. The other was a book by a writer named NEVIL DRURY who was better known for some writings on Magic and some other bits like Castaneda ... and his book on music was actually a nice attempt, although I think that his listening habits were not as well defined as they could be, or perhaps by that time I knew a lot more music than he did when he wrote the book. Thus the book sounds weak, and missing much better material for meditation, and material to augment the Tarot Cards which he makes an attempt at.

The only thing "missing" about music, is the artistic attempt to help "define" the work ... something that is very visible in theater, and literature, and almost completely ignored in music (specially pop and progressive) and then most of the art in the art world, that still tries to glorify the rose and the onion not to mention the soup can. Both of these "refuse" to delve into deeper matters and make serious attempts at developing and understanding what they do ... beyond some "secret" they have. THERE ARE NO SECRETS (Peter Brook-Theater and Daevid Allen-Gong) ... and instead we find folks that sometimes just need to let you know ... I don't know, when it starts it just all goes like that ... and I'm OK with that, believe or not, but that is not the case since a lot of the lyrics in most prog/progressive is basically poor and not well defined and designed beyond making sure that guitar gets that extra note, and the drummer drops that snare drum louder in your ear!

While you might not read all this, now you know the meaning of "prog/progressive" in my mind ... it is the "elevation" of the music to the level of an ART ... not just another song to (supposedly) enjoy while smoking a cigar and having a beer ... oh what the heck, that's good too, but TFTO wouldn't fit very well here for me!
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Originally posted by RyanYardMusic RyanYardMusic wrote:

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

The very best of luck with this, Ryan... it's nice to see there's another 'progger' residing in the Welsh Marches! Have you thought about raising it's profile in Broad Sheep?

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The book is now complete and will be heading off to the printers soon. I hope t will be an enjoyable light read for the summer and introduce you to some less well known bands and artists. 
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