When did u not only "get", but actually love VDGG? |
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Nothing wrong with 80's pop and synth my man, it's some of the best music of all time as well! I was just poking some honest fun at that contrast LOL. Tears for Fears is quintessential 80's listening! Shout! Shout! Let it all out!
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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Awesoreno
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THESE ARE THE THINGS I COULD DO WITHOUT, SO COME ON!
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geekfreak
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ONLY Two Stars for Pawn Hearts argh! |
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Frenetic Zetetic
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EVER-Y BOD-Y WANTS-TO-RULE-THE-WORLD!
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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Grubert
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For all the real VdGG fanatics and lunatics, there exists a forum now founded by Phil Smart, the co-author of the big VdGG book. It just started yesterday ... https://vdgg.freeforums.net/
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Mascodagama
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Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to.
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Awesoreno
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SOME-THING HAPPENED AND I'M HEAD O-VER HEELS
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Grubert
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Actually for me, and others may view this different, the 2nd CD of Present is just a bonus disc. As these are only improvisatins recorded while rehearsing for the album. And even if i prefer VdGG with the sax, I don't care much for this disc, but think that Alt (another set of improvisations), which is also for me not really part of their discography, is fun to hear. So only the first CD of Present is the real album, and there is stuff on this for which I really needed some time to get in. Especially In Babelsberg was for nearly 15 years one of the least VdGG songs with not much interesting things in it, but suddenly last year it made kinda bang, and now I abolutely enjoy it. Acutally Present is probably just after my all time favourite Pawn Hearts the VdGG album I listened too the most in the last 10 years. It is by far the best from the reformed band and Every Bloody Emperor and Nutter alert belong to there best work ever. I even began to dig On the Beach a little bit, which was initially a total disappointment, but is now nice enough not to skip it when returning to the complete album.
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ProfPanglos
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To this day I still don't like VDGG. I've listened to their albums through the years (maybe not all of them, but several) - I think my first exposure was when I got married - my wife had Still Life. I'll keep trying. (I disliked David Sylvian for over a decade, and now he's one of my favorites. Something happens and it all comes together, and you 'hear' it.)
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UMUR
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I had never heard of them before I joined PA 13 years ago. Then I started exploring their music and I´ve become a fan. They are not one of my favorite prog rock artists, but they are certainly among the most unique and I have great respect for them as musicians and composers.
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Psychedelic Paul
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Sorry I dislike the Pawn Hearts album, but I've listened to it three times now and I still don't "get it". On a positive note though, it's the best of VDGG's 2-star albums, in my opinion.
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iluvmarillion
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I'm not a great listener of VDGG but you've got me baffled how you could rate Pawn Hearts only 2 stars. Three stars for Godbluff and Still Life is easily ridiculous.
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Logan
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I'm a VdGG fan and Paul has rated more VdGG albums than I have heard (he has rated 14 albums). I do suspect that Paul hasn't given Pawn Hearts much of a chance (maybe listened once on youtube as I doubt he owns all (any?) of those VDGG albums or has given them all multiple spins). Albums can take some time to live and breathe with you in your collection. I had the album for more than a year before it altogether clicked. I did love Man-Erg right from the start, and later I fell head-over-heels for a Plague of Lighthouse Keepers, but Lemmings was a little harder. It can take not just spins but time, patience and the right mood for music to click (some never will, so move on -- so much music, so little time). I wouldn't feel comfortable rating music that I haven't listened to considerable times, but we're all different (that ends up skewing ratings high).
I got into VdGG in about 2005 or 2004. In about late 2006 or 2007 I was quite obsessive about The Least We Can Do Is Wave to Each Other, H to He Who Am the Only One, and Pawn Hearts. Those three remain the ones that I return to the most. For Godbluff, Still Life, World Record, and The Quiet Zone / The Pleasure Dome I have to be in a certain mood. At one time I was very into Godbluff, but the last time I listened it didn't much appeal. I listen to more Peter Hammill "solo" than VdGG for some reason. Think I'll put on The Silent Corner and the Empty Stage right now. Edited by Logan - December 23 2020 at 18:35 |
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Zeph
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I’m getting there. My first times listening to VDGG was largely impacted by the reaction to Peter’s voice. It overshadowed the music and made it difficult to appreciate. These days I’ve gotten used to his voice and can better listen to the enitre albums, which is where the real love can be born.
At this point I’m at the stage where VDGG is quite new, unexplored and exciting, and I’m really enjoying it. Early eclectic prog has proven to be a bit challenging. I like some KC albums, but not comfortable with most. GG is still not there, though I give them a listen here and there. VDGG is slowly getting there. |
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Frenetic Zetetic
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The first time I heard VDGG, it was "Killer", and I immediately thought "This is absolutely ridiculous how can people consider this good, let alone exemplary of some genre?!" Now they're in my top 5 lol.
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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