Does anyone like Duke?

Tom Ozric wrote: FatherChristmas wrote: What about Dodo/Lurker, Home by the Sea, Mama, Domino, the Brazilian, Driving the Last Spike, Fading Lights and most stuff on CAS? (and some stuff I've probably missed out?) Though very good, these pieces don’t have the same depth and complexity as Duke’s Travels. Just my 2 cents worth.

I agree. All good tracks, but they don't match up to the very best of Duke.

Fading Lights, Mama and Domino would probably all be somewhere in my Genesis top 20. Fading Lights in particular really moves me. I love Phil's vocals.

Tom Ozric wrote: Blacksword wrote: Tom Ozric wrote: FatherChristmas wrote: What about Dodo/Lurker, Home by the Sea, Mama, Domino, the Brazilian, Driving the Last Spike, Fading Lights and most stuff on CAS? (and some stuff I've probably missed out?) Though very good, these pieces don’t have the same depth and complexity as Duke’s Travels. Just my 2 cents worth. I agree. All good tracks, but they don't match up to the very best of Duke. Fading Lights, Mama and Domino would probably all be somewhere in my Genesis top 20. Fading Lights in particular really moves me. I love Phil's vocals. All correct !! Fading Lights has the same feeling as High Hopes (Pink Floyd) - like, their ‘goodbye’ or something. Encapsulates their career.

Psychedelic Paul wrote: Duke is only a three-star album for me, mainly because it's a transitional album where Genesis were shedding their classic Prog-Rock roots and emerging into just another run-of-the-mill eighties Pop/Rock band. It was downhill all the way for me with "Duke" in 1980 and it was about to get worse with "Abacab" in 1981. Their final album (thankfully!) "Calling All Stations" didn't sound anything like the Genesis I used to know and love back in the seventies.

Hmmm there’s a few good songs on Duke but overhaul its a huge NO!!!!

geekfreak wrote: Psychedelic Paul wrote: Duke is only a three-star album for me, mainly because it's a transitional album where Genesis were shedding their classic Prog-Rock roots and emerging into just another run-of-the-mill eighties Pop/Rock band. It was downhill all the way for me with "Duke" in 1980 and it was about to get worse with "Abacab" in 1981. Their final album (thankfully!) "Calling All Stations" didn't sound anything like the Genesis I used to know and love back in the seventies.  Hmmm there’s a few good songs on Duke but overhaul its a huge NO!!!!

I always felt like Duke and ABACAB were super tight, and Collins was working double duty (even though nothing will ever be good enough for some people). I like both the early Prog and later stripped down versions of Genesis. Both have their merits and drawbacks. They are really difficult to compare, so I almost think of them as 2 completely separate bands, much like 70s and 80s Yes, or even 70s versus 80s Rush. Sometimes, you want to sit down and listen to albums that deliver the fury without the fluff. These are good go-to albums for those times. What I find really strange is just how much Collins’ voice sounds like Gabriel’s on these albums. Few bands could lose almost half their musicians and still deliver the goods. I’d say “Enjoy the music. It’s still very interesting. Give ‘em a break!”

Jaketejas wrote: I always felt like Duke and ABACAB were super tight, and Collins was working double duty (even though nothing will ever be good enough for some people). I like both the early Prog and later stripped down versions of Genesis. Both have their merits and drawbacks. They are really difficult to compare, so I almost think of them as 2 completely separate bands, much like 70s and 80s Yes, or even 70s versus 80s Rush. Sometimes, you want to sit down and listen to albums that deliver the fury without the fluff. These are good go-to albums for those times. What I find really strange is just how much Collins’ voice sounds like Gabriel’s on these albums. Few bands could lose almost half their musicians and still deliver the goods. I’d say “Enjoy the music. It’s still very interesting. Give ‘em a break!”

Hrychu wrote: apparently the snare was 'un-snared' Which song are you referring to? I think the snares were on most of the time if not always on Duke. To my ear, the distinct snare sound is more likely to have been a mixing/miking move.