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    Posted: August 07 2005 at 17:03
Now don`t get me wrong I like them but they are just typical power metal bands, not much to do with prog.
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Points: 3013 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2005 at 18:18
Haven't heard much Angra, but I definitely agree with Rhaspody (and for that matter, Nightwish).

That said, countless people have started threads among these lines and those bands are still here.
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Points: 5502 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2005 at 05:30
Angra fits, don't know the other bands
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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2005 at 05:39
I think Angra should be here,but agree that Nightwish and Rhapsody don't belong.


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Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

I think Angra should be here,but agree that Nightwish and Rhapsody don't belong.
Agreed. And I don't like Angra either.
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Points: 606 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2005 at 07:25
Angra is straight power metal as well (minimal proggy tendencies in a few songs).
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Points: 1617 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2005 at 08:14
I`ve got Angra`s "Temple Of The Shadow" album and I think it`s great but not prog! What prog elements can you find in their music. Choir? Give me a break even garage black metal bands use choirs and it doesn`t make them prog. Orchestra? It`s the same - it`s been done a thousand times before better and more interesting. Acoustical parts? Don`t think so. So what makes them prog.Their riffs are power metal standard and the percussion is horrible! Remove them!
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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2005 at 08:39
You have been a member for what...4 days?And come on here demanding that bands be removed from the archives.


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Being a member for 4 days doesn`t mean I started to listen prog music 4 days ago. I know Prog Archives for quite some time and I`ve watched your discussions on forum as a guest. And I decided to join you four days ago.

How long do I have to be a member to SUGGEST (not demand!) adding/removing a band? Two and a half month like you? Is that enough?
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Points: 21596 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2005 at 09:45
If you watched the forum for some time, you should have realized that bands are hardly ever removed from the archives. You have to live with the fact that other people might have other definitions of what is prog. I'm happy when a band that I like is included - if a band which I don't like is included, it really doesn't bother me much.
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Points: 1617 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2005 at 10:04
Look at it this way: you meet a guy who listens to Angra, Rhapsody, Nightwish and Therion. And now he is calling himself a progger becasue he saw those bands on this site. I`ve seen people like that and they had no idea who Genesis, KC, Yes or even DT is! Thats why i want these band removed.
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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2005 at 10:05

Originally posted by Wolf Spider Wolf Spider wrote:

Being a member for 4 days doesn`t mean I started to listen prog music 4 days ago. I know Prog Archives for quite some time and I`ve watched your discussions on forum as a guest. And I decided to join you four days ago.

How long do I have to be a member to SUGGEST (not demand!) adding/removing a band? Two and a half month like you? Is that enough?

Bands that you want to be removed have a slim to non chance of actually being removed and it's pointless to make thread about it.

And how long you have been here doesn't mean much to me,it's that you just got here and instead of getting to know some pretty cool people on this forum demand that a band be removed because you don't think they are prog.

And if you don't like power metal being on this site you have problems because there are ALOT of power metal bands in the archives.


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Points: 21596 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2005 at 10:10

Originally posted by Wolf Spider Wolf Spider wrote:

Look at it this way: you meet a guy who listens to Angra, Rhapsody, Nightwish and Therion. And now he is calling himself a progger becasue he saw those bands on this site. I`ve seen people like that and they had no idea who Genesis, KC, Yes or even DT is! Thats why i want these band removed.

Did you notice how the ratings for those bands are? Have a look at the top 100 prog metal albums:

http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?style_id=19& amp;album_type=1

The best Nightwish album is at position 91. Rhapsody is at position 51. If someone finds this website through those bands, he'll soon discover that most people here think more highly of other bands and other genres (in terms of progressiveness).

 
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Progtologist- I like power metal but I realize that not that I like is prog. I just don`t think they are prog that`s all. You want to keep them ? OK. Why are you so agressive? Can`t you understand I have a different point of view on what is and what isn`t prog?
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Points: 21596 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2005 at 10:37

Originally posted by Wolf Spider Wolf Spider wrote:

Progtologist- I like power metal but I realize that not that I like is prog. I just don`t think they are prog that`s all. You want to keep them ? OK. Why are you so agressive? Can`t you understand I have a different point of view on what is and what isn`t prog?

You should not demand that a band be removed from the archives just because you can't see how it is progressive. Why don't you write a review for Nightwish - Once? You can explain in all length why you don't think it is prog.

If only people would write as many reviews as they write posts ... (I'm including myself here).



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Points: 1617 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2005 at 10:44
I`m tooooo lazy

Oh and I just noticed that Progtologist agreed with me about removing Rhapsody & Nightwish, some humor changes?
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Points: 15585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2005 at 15:12

Don't know Angra, so can't comment, but I'm quite comfortable with Rhapsody being here. Certainly not just a "power metal band".

The Progtologist is right though, why spend so much time and energy trying to get bands removed?Confused

 
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Points: 13033 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2005 at 16:18

Yes, i listened to Angra and i think its music is only metal, i cant found the sound of a band which plays really prog...

also... i dont like angra anymore


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Points: 443 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2005 at 17:09
[QUOTE=Wolf Spider] Now don`t get me wrong I like them but they are just typical power metal bands, not much to do with prog.<!--



Never seen an a**h***e band like Rhapsody, the only time they tried to play live was a disaster...
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Points: 21596 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2005 at 17:23

Originally posted by abyssyinfinity abyssyinfinity wrote:

[QUOTE=Wolf Spider] Now don`t get me wrong I like them but they are just typical power metal bands, not much to do with prog.<!--



Never seen an a**h***e band like Rhapsody, the only time they tried to play live was a disaster...
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They just did an U.S. tour - I don't know what you mean by "the only time they tried to play live".
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