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    Posted: November 15 2010 at 15:14
It's probably been done before somewhere, but this thread was prompted by watching the telly this morning, when my wife wouldn't let me get her off the computerAngry

I put on Sky Arts to watch Pink Floyd perform DSOTM (from the Pulse DVD, but without any of the other tracks).

I remember seeing this tour, and reliving it this morning, reminded me of just how awful I thought it was. Yep, although DSOTM is a five star classic in my mind, I felt at the time, and again today, just how awful the gig was. The terrible female vocals on Great Gig In The Sky, the vastly unnecessarily overextended Money (with poor old Dick having the indignity of a bunch of gyrating females behind him whilst trying to remember how to play the sax), the obligatory percussionist doing the obligatory jumping up and down whilst, at the same time, saving Nick Mason from being a silent witness, and the conclusion I reached at the time that this was merely a band going through the motions without the man who was passionate about the lyrics he had written.

Controversial, I know. But, what was your biggest live disappointment? A gig or tour you had really looked forward to, but ended up being a total dud.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 15:19
I saw Mostly Autumn for the first time in June last year. Having heard quite a lot of praise for them and since bands tend to be better live than on CD I thought it would be good to see them. Most of my problems was that the band are pretty rubbish, but their live sound is still very flat and devoid of energy, not good for a live performance.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 15:52
Not Strictly Prog, But Thin Lizzy when I saw them supporting Deep Purple a little while back. I was only 15 at the time,(teenage progger here :) ) and it kind of shattered one of my early loves for a band. Them not playing "whiskey in the jar" was a crime beyond comprehension to me, and there was just none of the energy that any Thin Lizzy album is full of. I understand the problem is the sad lack of Phill Lynnot (R.I.P.) but it was still a sad day.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 16:02
For me it was NAZARETH at Maple Leaf Gardens in the late seventies.Not prog i know but it was the one concert that i wish i'd stayed home.And i was a fan of some of their songs back then.It was just a lacklustre performance.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 16:32
The 1999 International Progressive Music Festival in San Francisco had some wonderful surprises as well as some real disappointments. In general, the festival was wrought with sound system disasters. Both days performances were about 2 hours late. Bondage Fruit opened the fest and blew everyone away despite the sound issues. The bands that disappointed me the most were Lana Lane and The Rocket Scientists whose only real prog moment was a horrifying ItCotCK cover. Porcupine Tree just sounded like AOR to me. They were tight, but...meh.  Gong did their thing and were mildly entertaining, but not really my thing.

Overall I enjoyed the festival. The remaining acts (Par Lindh, Brand X, Buckethead, Magma) were all incredible. But the unenjoyable ones were just that. I guess thats the trouble with festivals, you get some not so good with your good.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 16:39
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 16:42
Although not prog, but with really interesting and musically dynamic records, Zero 7 in Bristol last year was rubbish. They seemed to have lost all the musicianship shown on their albums and display a sh*tty dance-show .
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 16:44
Not prog, but The Offspring put on one weak ass show. The set list was around 30 minutes...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 17:14
Worst gig? for sure AMON DUUL2  in paris on 1977 that incredible band had turned to a mainstream hardrock band, a second hand band i must say , they were quite ridiculous what a pity, and having talked so much about them to my friends ,i was ridiculous tooConfused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 17:56
Well the most recent was just a few months ago.
Went to see the combo show of Porcupine Tree opening for Coheed and Cambria.  
The Dear Hunter started everything off and I'd only heard of them but hadn't actually heard them yet--I was pleasantly surprised.  So Band One was quite good.  
Porcupine Tree were fantastic, though it was sad to see them in an opening slot (especially having seen the whole Incident tour last year).  Band Two good, too.
Then Coheed and Cambria came on.  Like the Dear Hunter, I had heard the name but nothing of the music. But this was the big band, the one most people had apparently paid their money to see.
Ugh.  
The music had that repetitive anthemic quality that reminded of KISS plus one of those pop-punk groups from the 90s that had a number in their name.  Fairly average stuff, I thought.  The experience was worsened by the audience, which seemed quite intelligent up to this point, transforming into a mob of frat boys pounding fists and chanting along with the anthems.  
Ah well, they were having a good time, but I thought driving home seemed like a better idea.

Not the worst live experience, but the most vivid right now.  More memories will arise.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 17:56
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

I saw Mostly Autumn for the first time in June last year. Having heard quite a lot of praise for them and since bands tend to be better live than on CD I thought it would be good to see them. Most of my problems was that the band are pretty rubbish, but their live sound is still very flat and devoid of energy, not good for a live performance.


What a load of utter b*******s. Anyone who describes a band of this quality as rubbish clearly is utterly tasteless.

I've seen MA about 7 times and will be seeing them again in Dec in York.

They have never been less than excellent and some of their gigs have been on the shortlist for the best I've ever seen. The combination of superb music, excellent musicianship and back-projected imagery are always a mesmerising experience.

My own worst gigs include Can (Berlin - left halfway through) and King Crimson (London - I wanted to shoot Jamie Muir whose antics completely ruined an otherwise passable show) and Hawkwind (in York - the music was awful and the dancer utterly repulsive), but the biggest disappointment was Yes in Newcastle, who were utterly destroyed by their support band, Gryphon. They weren't bad, but Gryphon played such a breathtaking set and Yes completely failed to rise to the challenge


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 18:01
Oh I remember another one-- I knew I would.

I saw one Dead Can Dance concert that was truly magical.  One of the top shows I'd seen in fact.

I had told friends about how good this show was, so the next time they came around we went to see them.  It was just awful.  Super long pauses between most of the songs.  Members not looking sure if they knew what song was coming or which song they were in the middle of.  Ugly stares darting all around.  Poor performances, no magic.  Turned out to be the last tour before the band broke up.  

It was one of those cases where I think I saw the band break up before my eyes.
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The damage that we do just goes on and on and on but not long enough.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 18:04
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Questions: Got to second the Coheed And Cambria. Brilliant in the studio but they're very weak live. Except the Neverender shows are pretty show but those were carefully prepared, choreographed and rehearsed and had an extra special effort put into them. Catch them on an ordinary night and you can be quite shocked by how their studio perfection completely abandons them live.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 18:14
Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:


My own worst gigs include Can (Berlin - left halfway through) and King Crimson (London - I wanted to shoot Jamie Muir whose antics completely ruined an otherwise passable show) and Hawkwind (in York - the music was awful and the dancer utterly repulsive)


Someone actually being disparaging of Muir and Can? Unbelievable. This is the saddest thing I've ever read. Even worse is the fact that you praise some post-89 rubbish right before hurling that insult at real musicians.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 18:24
I've been bored by some performances of local musicians, but I didn't have any expectations of them so I don't think that counts. The few famous people I've seen have been pretty awesome. John Zorn was only average free improv the night I saw him, but the intimate setting made up for it.
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What a load of utter b*******s. Anyone who describes a band of this quality as rubbish clearly is utterly tasteless.

I've seen MA about 7 times and will be seeing them again in Dec in York.

They have never been less than excellent and some of their gigs have been on the shortlist for the best I've ever seen. The combination of superb music, excellent musicianship and back-projected imagery are always a mesmerising experience.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 18:26
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:



Someone actually being disparaging of Muir and Can? Unbelievable. This is the saddest thing I've ever read. Even worse is the fact that you praise some post-89 rubbish right before hurling that insult at real musicians.


What happened man? What happened to you as a child in 1990? Were you ear raped by nirvana? (both literally and in terms of there terrible music) half of your posts have something to do with hating anything with a passion that was made after 1989.

And OT: I've honestly... never seen anything "disappoint" me live.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 18:50
Sword, you really need to turn the macho dial down a notch. This, and the other thread where you tell someone to jump off a cliff, are really unnecessary insults to people, and have nothing to do with their opinions. Mighty tough talk for a guy with a unicorn avatarLOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 19:09
March 1, 1987, Orange Bowl Miami, I was going to see my favourite band ever on stage for the first time in my life during the Invisible Touch Tour, no Gabriel or Hackett but I had hopes..

Went very early and was very close to the stage, drank a couple of beers (enough to be more receptive but just the right amount not loose a single detail), everything was perfect

The problem started when the band played the first notes of the song I hate more...Mama, the rest wasn't better, a couple of Medleys with decent music but Phil Collins  singing (horrendous).

Left the Orange Bowl swearing I would never see them again unless Gabriel and Hackett were back).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 19:20
Okay this time round a second-hand experience (not really fair, but there you go).

A friend of mine saw the Moody Blues in the mid-1980s (I think when Moraz was playing with them, but I may have that wrong).  He said they came out, the audience was applauding appreciably, and then the band started the first song, and then the audience began to boo.  Turned out that different members of the band had different ideas about what the first song should be and went with different choices, at the same time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2010 at 19:46
The only gig I've ever walked out on was Metallica - it wasn't a bad performance, just numbingly boring - a tired band going through the motions. Went off them big time after that.
 
Other than that, of all the 100s of gigs, none stand out as being so horribly bad or grossly disappointing - even when the set has been fraught with technical problems, or the band to drunk/stoned to play there has always been some morbid entertainment value to be gained by watching to the bitter end.
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