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Abstrakt
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Topic: CD Pressings Posted: November 23 2008 at 14:15 |
- Early CD Pressings: Nothing fancy really. Just the Album on CD.
- Remastered: Remastered sound, maybe expanded artwork.
- Remastered&Expanded: Remastered Sound, Expanded Artwork, Bonus tracks & A nice booklet
- Vinyl Replica: A mini Vinyl replica. Maybe a 24-bit remaster with a cool "obi".
- Mega Remastered: Remastered Sound, Expanded Artwork, Bonus tracks, Bonus DVD & a Thick booklet full of photos & info.
So... Which one do you prefer? I love early CD pressings! I think they look cool! Too bad they're hard to find in most cases.
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Bern
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Posted: November 23 2008 at 14:18 |
I usually like the cheapest of them.
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Philéas
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Posted: November 23 2008 at 14:34 |
It can vary from album to album, but generally I prefer remasters. I voted remastered & expanded because it's always nice to have those bonus tracks, even though I rarely listen to bonus tracks.
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NotAProghead
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Posted: November 23 2008 at 16:30 |
In most cases - Remastered and expanded, btw they are often made as vinyl replicas. Though sometimes, quite rarely, remasters sound worse than originals.
Never heard of Mega Remastered, what is this?
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Jozef
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Posted: November 23 2008 at 22:43 |
I do like remastered & expanded reissues and I sometimes go for the mega remasters, but many of those supposedly "rare" songs can often be found on bootlegs or elsewhere.
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jammun
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Posted: November 24 2008 at 21:24 |
I don't have too many early CD pressings. I couldn't afford them at the time. Over the years, I've usually tried to buy remasters, not caring if they are expanded or not though in some cases (early Jethro Tull) that's always a nice bonus. Lately I've gotten into the vinyl replicas, those perfect reproductions of the original album. But a lot of those come out of Japan and no small expense, so I pick and choose carefully.
Edited by jammun - November 24 2008 at 21:24
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Alberto Muñoz
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Posted: November 25 2008 at 10:47 |
I do not like replicas, to me is a mega market explotation
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Nightfly
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Posted: November 25 2008 at 14:41 |
As I like the golden years of album cover art I like the replicas, but not the price that often comes with them.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: November 25 2008 at 14:52 |
I still haven`t got used to them. It baffles me why they try to reproduce original album covers or include newspaper clippings like on the KC collector`s series that you can`t even read with a magnifying glass. I just got a CD copy of Amon Duul II`s Carnival In Babylon ( for the two bonus jams ) and they`ve got some interesting clippings that you can`t even read. Should have never switched over. We should still have cassettes and 8 tracks. And reel to reels. And 78 rpms. And 16 rpms. And cylindrical wax records.
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Alberto Muñoz
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Posted: November 25 2008 at 15:06 |
Fro the endless reisuess i got 7 copies of Uriah Heep Demons and Wizards.
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topofsm
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Posted: November 25 2008 at 20:47 |
Well I listen to CDs far more than vinyls, mainly because of my crappy speaker setup for the vinyls, so I try and get the CD closest to the original product. So that would mean Early CD Pressings. Though I'm not picky.
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BroSpence
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Posted: November 27 2008 at 00:47 |
Well usually the original, however, I do enjoy worthwhile bonus tracks. Ones that actually matter, not ones like "radio edit" or "single edition". Thats bull.
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NotAProghead
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Posted: November 27 2008 at 05:12 |
^ Yes, absolutely useless fillers.
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AlanD
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Posted: November 27 2008 at 06:32 |
Many early cd reissues of classic seventies prog were very shabbily done by most labels. The early 'compact price' Genesis ones spring to mind. The Lamb in particular sounded appalling, with a chunk of Banks' piano intro chopped off and an 'earth buzz' signal over the last section of side one. The later remastered version was a vast improvement, but I'm banking on the new box set remasters to be 'the business' (only two weeks before I get my copy!!)
The Enid remastering was generally atrocious too, with carelessness and little attention to detail the order of the day. There is even a 'drop-out' on the classic Live at Hammersmith cd during The Last Judgement and several tracks were left off altogether. The vinyl remains superior for a large swathe of The Enid's catalogue.
Give me all my fave seventies stuff remastered and mixed for 5.1 Surround Sound and I'll be 'Happy the Man'!!
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Posted: November 27 2008 at 06:40 |
Remastered
Another problem with the early cd was 'bronzing'. After a few years the early cds would degrade.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: November 27 2008 at 07:50 |
I hate the early CDs with a passion. The jewel cases are way too fragile and I wish that the mini LP had become the case of preference. Also they were often made from the LP masters rather than remastered for the CD format. Occasionally you'd even get one that was recorded from an actual LP to put on CD. Give me a remaster in a LP style sleeve with bonus material anytime.
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Abstrakt
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The Miracle
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Posted: January 24 2009 at 12:58 |
I actually hate early releases. Remasters and special editions always have cool packaging, improved sound quality(sometimes by far) and sometimes great bonus tracks you won't get anywhere else. It can only go so far though... if I have an original pressing of an album I really like and a remaster comes out I;ll replace it, but when bands release re-re-releases and special editions a year after the original album, I totally protest that kinda blatant commercialism(unless they're actually correcting a flaw or adding something valuable). For example, I'm very hesitant about buying the Genesis box set after I paid for all the remastered CD's a year previously. I don't think it's worth the extra 50-60 bucks. I think the band is rich enough. I bet the people who bought the vinyl, then the cd, then the remaster must feel like they're being milked for cash by their favorite band.
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Posted: January 24 2009 at 14:22 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
I hate the early CDs with a passion. The jewel cases are way too fragile and I wish that the mini LP had become the case of preference. Also they were often made from the LP masters rather than remastered for the CD format. Occasionally you'd even get one that was recorded from an actual LP to put on CD. Give me a remaster in a LP style sleeve with bonus material anytime. |
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