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Revolver
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Topic: A Day in the Life is prog. Posted: October 15 2007 at 16:39 |
In the last month my bandmates have debating whether this song is proto prog or progressive rock. I class A Day in the Life as progressive rock. The others in debate is Interstellar Overdrive, Astronomy Domine, I Am The Walrus, Tomorrow Never Knows and The End as very early canditates. Frank Zappa Monster Magnet on the other hand to me is random chaos not progressive to me.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: October 15 2007 at 16:55 |
Out of all those, I'd only exclude Walrus, coo coo cachoo.
The Zappa song is Avant...
Edited by Slartibartfast - October 15 2007 at 17:15
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Dim
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Posted: October 15 2007 at 17:55 |
A day in the life is more pshye/ experimental than prog, but I understand why you would call it that.
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ProgBagel
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Posted: October 15 2007 at 18:19 |
schizoid_man77 wrote:
A day in the life is more pshye/ experimental than prog, but I understand why you would call it that. |
Isn't pshye and experimental both big parts of some prog. (Not only my opinion, but also the archives have both of them as sub-genres).
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Fight Club
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Posted: October 15 2007 at 20:22 |
I wish I had people in class to debate this kind of topic with
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: October 15 2007 at 20:50 |
I went back and listened to it to be sure. A Day in the Life is clearly psychedelic, but it doesn't yet cross the boundary into prog. Of the songs that you have listed, the only one that I'd think might have done that is Interstellar Overdrive.
While speaking of The Beatles, For the Benefit of Mr. Kite sure comes close to prog.
Edited by ghost_of_morphy - October 15 2007 at 20:52
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Revolver
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Posted: October 15 2007 at 22:34 |
I really think A Day in the Life is prog it has all the elements for what i call progressive rock. Either it is an early example symphonic prog or experimental rock in my opinion. How about Within You Wihout You or Strawberry Fields Forever. I agree with Mr Kite and Instellar Overdrive. I once heard Phil Collins said when Sgt Pepper came out it helped open the doors for the music he wanted to do. I have this list of songs in my music class from 1966 and 1967. The songs are on four different lists, Indian influence, Experimental/ Avant Garde, Art Rock and Psychedelic Prog and the Beatles have songs on all of the lists as for influencing progressive rock.
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crimhead
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Posted: October 15 2007 at 22:38 |
Revolver wrote:
In the last month my bandmates have debating whether this song is proto prog or progressive rock. I class A Day in the Life as progressive rock. The others in debate is Interstellar Overdrive, Astronomy Domine, I Am The Walrus, Tomorrow Never Knows and The End as very early canditates. Frank Zappa Monster Magnet on the other hand to me is random chaos not progressive to me. |
Funny you bring up The End., Blender magazine(consider the source) named it one of the 50 worst songs of all time. It's one of my favorite Doors songs. I don't know if I would call it prog though.
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Roskisdyykkari
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Posted: October 16 2007 at 03:42 |
In my opinion THE END has absolutely nothing to do with progressive music, because it's more like anti-progressive. Okay, the song is over ten minutes long, so what? Does that make it progressive? In my opinion a prog song begins with somekind of thing and eventually evolves into something completely different, logically of course. The best example of this is The Trees by Rush. It's only 5 minutes long but it keeps on progressing until the end with some totally different sections. The End is nothing like this. It's nearly 12 minutes long, but there is no progressivity. It's just the same thing repeated again and again with different lyrics. For the same reason I don't even consider most of the songs on In The Court Of The Crimson King very progressive. After all, I Talk To The Wind is actually quite typical psychedelic pop/rock song with some flute solos here and there. Epitaph is a sad ballad with lots of mellotron, but does mellotron make it prog? Moonchild is another psychedelic song with 10 minutes of weird psychedelic improvisation, and the title track is a long work of art. Yes, it's definitely artistic, I would say it's "art rock" but because of the typical song structure I wouldn't say it's progressive. Now the only song left is 21st Century Schizoid Man, which is the highlight of this album (in my opinion) and clearly the most progressive song. It's a great album, but what makes it more progressive than A Day In The Life?
A Day In The Life is definitely progressive rock, as well as A Quick One, While He's Away by The Who. Zappa's Freak Out is not a prog album, but it's probably the most influential album to the genre because it's more experimental than anything else from 1966.
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The Whistler
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Posted: October 16 2007 at 03:44 |
Hey, the same thing repeated over and over again! You mean like Close to the Frige?!?
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Sydwaters
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Posted: October 16 2007 at 23:12 |
Being a Pink Floyd fan, I would say A Day in the Life is progressive rock to its core. Strawberry Fields Forever is even earlier and I would say that is progressive rock. Zappa is avant. The Who A Quick One is not prog it just a suite of songs. Pink Floyd was a full out prog band. The Beatles prog was just a only part of there song catalogue.
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