Luis Alberto Spinetta for prog related |
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ThyroidGlands
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Posted: November 12 2024 at 18:11 |
Well, Spinetta is an old acquaintance of the page. He was the leader of the bands Almendra (proto-prog), Pescado Rabioso, Spinetta y los Socios del Desierto, INVISIBLE, and SPINETTA JADE (the last two are listed on this site under the categories of Symphonic and JR/F, respectively). He has an extensive solo career with (mostly) pop-rock albums, classics of Argentine rock. In 1977, he released A 18' del Sol, a jazz-fusion album with a sound similar to what would later become SPINETTA JADE. The thing is, I strongly believe that el Flaco deserves a page on the site under the "Prog Related" label. I haven’t decided to write the biography yet because it might be a waste of time if it ends up being unanimously rejected, so I’d like to hear the administrators' opinions first.
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Cristi
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Listening links?
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Heart of the Matter
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Sorry to intrude, I think you can use this:
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yam yam
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This guy has been suggested for inclusion as a solo artist twice before:
January 2009: https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55138. October 2011: https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=82217. The first one led nowhere, but the second time he was evaluated in JR/F, where he had one 'yes', one 'prog related at best', and another for prog related. The team agreed to send Luis Alberto Spinetta to prog related on July 20th 2013, but whether an official proposal by an SC was ever prepared and submitted to the admins of the day I don't know. Since prog related as a category tends to be frowned on somewhat these days, and persuading an SC to prepare a strong case for this guy probably wouldn't be an easy matter to begin with, his only chance for inclusion I feel would be another shot in JR/F by the current team, since he wasn't rejected last time around. It would be interesting to know if a proposal was ever sent to admins back in July 2013, and if so what they made of it. According to the Spinetta Jade biography, Luis Alberto released a total of 16 albums from 1971 up until his death in 2012. Edit: Eduardo beat me to it with the album link, so I've removed the duplicate embed from my post.
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Logan
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I actually would support Luis Alberto Spinetta for Prog Related as I think he is musically relevant and is involved with music in PA.
INVISIBLE is included in our Symphonic Prog category. SPINETTA JADE is included in our JRF categoiry. I voted "YES" for PESCADO RABIOSO in Prog Related in 2023 and so did Ian. We were waiting for Keishiro's vote but due to issues he had to step away, so we can consider that cleared. And I think ALMENDRA has merit. While I see that JRF were set to propose it to PR in 2013, but I don't know what happened. Often such things were handled by Private Message so I don;t see it noted in the admin forum. I would take it to PR if a bio is promised if accepted and adds a paragraph on why this case suits Prog Related. And points to the most relevant music in that, related bands in PA, etc. I brought the case to admin (will want that bio if approved, please). Gets my yes. Edited by Logan - November 13 2024 at 11:31 |
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yam yam
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In December 2009 Spinetta celebrated his 40 years in music with a five-and-a-half-hour concert called "Spinetta y las Bandas Eternas" (Spinetta and The Eternal Bands) in front of 40 thousand fans at Vélez Sarsfield Stadium in Buenos Aires. It was subsequently described as "the greatest gig of the decade" by Argentinian music critics.
Opening song from the gig below. And the full playlist from the performance, all in excellent quality, here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kq3VenNiKZ-ef8UHDRNp64B1FsoAtqj9E. Superb stuff indeed! If that doesn't get him a place in the Archives, in prog related at the very least, then nothing will lol! More info at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Alberto_Spinetta.
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Heart of the Matter
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Another essential, Kamikaze (1982)
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Heart of the Matter
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This is his solo debut, a sort of missing link between Almendra and Pescado Rabioso
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Heart of the Matter
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Solo discography (Studio only)
Spinettalandia y Sus Amigos - La Búsqueda de la Estrella (1971) A 18´ del Sol (1977) Only Love Can Sustain (1980) Kamikaze (1982) Mondo Di Cromo (1983) Privé (1986) La La La (1986, with Fito Páez) Téster de Violencia (1988) Don Lucero (1989) Pelusón of Milk (1991) Fuego Gris (1993, soundtrack) Silver Sorgo (2001) Para los Árboles (2003) Camalotus (2004) Pan (2006) Un Mañana (2008) Los Amigo (2015, posthumous) Ya No Mires Atrás (2020, posthumous) Edited by Heart of the Matter - November 17 2024 at 16:37 |
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Heart of the Matter
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Looking for the right one
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ThyroidGlands
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I'd add Artaud Oh, and Ya No Mires Atrás is missing.
Edited by ThyroidGlands - November 17 2024 at 15:24 |
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Heart of the Matter
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I just added Ya No Mires Atrás. Artaud may be a problem, since it's credited to Pescado Rabioso, and release data like that are taken seriously here. But it's your thread, I will add it too, if you wish. |
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BIO
Luis Alberto Spinetta (Born January 23, 1950 in Buenos Aires) was an Argentinian musician, singer, guitarist, songwriter, multi-instrumentalist and bandleader, widely considered as a prominent figure of the rock music in Spanish, due to the great level of lyrical sophistication, vocal and instrumental dexterity, and compositional complexity achieved with his work, both as part of his several bands, and as a solo artist. In 1967 Spinetta founded his first band, Almendra, which split in 1970, after two studio albums and some singles. Being a free agent again, he released his solo debut, under the title Spinettalandia Y Sus Amigos. Between 1972 and 1973 he put together a new outfit, Pescado Rabioso, soon to be broken by the clash of individualities. Invisible was his next group, initiated as a trio, but turned to quartet and finished in 1977. That same year, he released A 18’ Del Sol, second solo album, with a band which was going to serve as prototype for Spinetta Jade, a fusion outfit with two keyboardists and the most amazing series of bass players coming and leaving. In 1980 he made, entirely in the U.S, Only Love Can Sustain, and in 1982, before the end of Jade (and after a second run with Almendra), he launched a more continued string of solo releases with the acoustic Kamikaze, following then Mondo Di Cromo (1983), Privé (1986), La La La (1986, with Fito Páez), Téster de Violencia (1988), Don Lucero (1989), Pelusón of Milk (1991), Fuego Gris (1993, soundtrack), Silver Sorgo (2001), Para los Árboles (2003), Camalotus (2004, EP), Pan (2006) and his last, Un Mañana (2008). Between 1994 and 1999, feeling he was living in plain desert (cultural and artistically speaking), he leads a new power trio, called Spinetta y los Socios del Desierto, releasing (after a fierce fight with the labels involved) two studio, and two live albums. Plenty of musical influences can be mentioned: The Beatles, Astor Piazzola, Jimmi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, John McLaughlin, Weather Report, and many more. In Poetry, Arthur Rimbaud and Antonin Artaud. In Literature, Carlos Castaneda. In Philosophy, Michel Foucault. Nevertheless, his attitude towards the artists he admired would always be something like: Great, but that’s already done, let’s see the possibilities beyond. Also, he said once in an interview that he used to look at his songs as if they were pictures, each one needing its own materials and procedures (rather than a formula or style) in order to be brought to life. A single new chord would be more valuable then, than sheer virtuosity, since it brings a new shade to the canvas. Diagnosed with lung cancer, caused by cigarette adiction, Luis Alberto passed away in 2012, barely 62 years old. He is survived by two sons, Dante and Valentino and two daughters, Catarina and Vera. Dante with Dad Catarina with her Mom Luis with Valentino Vera and Luis Edited by Heart of the Matter - 8 hours 16 minutes ago at 17:35 |
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