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    Posted: December 08 2020 at 07:36
If only the British Jazz-Rock band "IF" had hit the big time, they could have been as big as Blood, Sweat & Tears or Chicago - two US bands who they're often compared favourably with. Maybe their uninspiring name, first four self-titled albums and bland album covers had something to do with their lack of success. If only...

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 4 stars 1972: Waterfall (US version of If 4) -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umWZih7Znf8
 3 stars 1974: Not Just Another Bunch of Pretty Faces -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9AdkBUJN4I&t=1s
 3 stars 1974: Tea-Break Over, Back on Your 'eads -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDSJpkAgimw

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If - I'm Reaching Out on All Sides (the opening song from their 1970 debut album)




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Great band. 
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Solid band.....I remember buying Waterfall at college because of the cover...but I knew they were jazz rock also. I only have the 3rd and Waterfall...been meaning to pick up the first 2 on original vinyl at my friends vinyl store but he's been closed due to the plague. Oh..I also have the 5th with the beer bottle cover....just found it in the stacks.
As always you have overrated the albums a bit but then you wouldn't be Psychedelic Paul if you didn't.
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Solid band.....I remember buying Waterfall at college because of the cover...but I knew they were jazz rock also. I only have the 3rd and Waterfall...been meaning to pick up the first 2 on original vinyl at my friends vinyl store but he's been closed due to the plague. Oh..I also have the 5th with the beer bottle cover....just found it in the stacks.
As always you have overrated the albums a bit but then you wouldn't be Psychedelic Paul if you didn't.
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I'm not always so generous with my ratings..... I doubt if I'd be accused of overrating King Crimson and Van der Graaf Generator's albums, when I gave at least half of their albums 2-star ratings recently. Wink
 
At least they made some effort with the design of the album cover for "Waterfall" (the US version of "If 4"), unlike the original British version of the album, with its dull and boring grey cover.


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A live performance of "Sunday Sad" from their imaginatively-titled second album: If 2 Smile

 
If - I Couldn't Write and Tell You (also from their second album)
 


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Having just finished listening to all eleven IF albums, I'd rate IF 3 as their best album, and here's the opening song from the album...
 
If - Fibonacci's Number
 
 
If - Forgotten Roads (the second track from IF 3, featuring a live Beat-Club performance in Germany)
 
 
If - Seldom Seen Sam (also from IF 3)
 


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One of my all time favorites.  I bought my first 'If' album ('If 2') at a record store a block away from the Fillmore East in NYC.  The album was in the 'cutout' bin for $1.  I liked the album cover.  I loved that album so much I started a mad search for anything else by them.




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^ IF you're wondering why I didn't write one of my usual song titles intros to this IFfy thread, then take a look at some of the crazy song titles I had to work with, such as "Tarmac T. Pirate And The Lonesome Nymphomaniac" and you can see why I decided to skip the intro. It's a great song though. Smile

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Superb band and recommendation, Paul! Clap

"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021
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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Superb band and recommendation, Paul! Clap
 
Thanks! If only I'd known about this great band back in the 1970's, I might have gone out and bought their records. Smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Superb band and recommendation, Paul! Clap
 
Thanks! If only I'd known about this great band back in the 1970's, I might have gone out and bought their records. Smile

dare i ask what were you listening to in the 70s that the whole prog passed you by? ConfusedLOL
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^ The band "IF" may have passed me by in the 1970's, but prog in general didn't pass me by. I was listening to Barclay James Harvest, Camel, Genesis, Mike Oldfield, Renaissance, Tangerine Dream and Yes, amongst many others, as well as the Glam Rock of David Bowie, the Rubettes, Slade, Sweet & T.Rex. There's also a few other artists I listened to back then who I'm too embarrassed to even mention now. Embarrassed Wink
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ The band "IF" may have passed me by in the 1970's, but prog in general didn't pass me by. I was listening to Barclay James Harvest, Camel, Genesis, Mike Oldfield, Renaissance, Tangerine Dream and Yes, amongst many others, as well as the Glam Rock of David Bowie, the Rubettes, Slade, Sweet & T.Rex. There's also a few other artists I listened to back then who I'm too embarrassed to even mention now. Embarrassed Wink

why mention it then? LOL
what could it be, can't be worse than Xanadu, Bee Gees, did you listen to the disco duck or something? afternoon delight? bubble gum pop, scooby doo music? LOL
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ The band "IF" may have passed me by in the 1970's, but prog in general didn't pass me by. I was listening to Barclay James Harvest, Camel, Genesis, Mike Oldfield, Renaissance, Tangerine Dream, Yes, and the Moody Blues, amongst many others, as well as the Glam Rock of David Bowie, the Rubettes, Slade, Sweet & T.Rex. There's also a few other artists I listened to back then who I'm too embarrassed to even mention now. Embarrassed Wink

why mention it then? LOL
what could it be, can't be worse than Xanadu, Bee Gees, did you listen to the disco duck or something? afternoon delight? bubble gum pop, scooby doo music? LOL
Okay, it was David Cassidy, Gary Glitter, Donny Osmond and the Bay City Rollers, but don't tell anyone. Okay? We'll keep my guilty secret just between the two of us. Embarrassed Wink


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Iffy YouTube Album Links
 
Not Just Another Bunch of Pretty Faces (1974) :- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9AdkBUJN4I&t=1s
Tea-Break Over, Back on Your 'eads (1974) :- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDSJpkAgimw


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A great band with great production and arrangements to boot Smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ The band "IF" may have passed me by in the 1970's, but prog in general didn't pass me by. I was listening to Barclay James Harvest, Camel, Genesis, Mike Oldfield, Renaissance, Tangerine Dream, Yes, and the Moody Blues, amongst many others, as well as the Glam Rock of David Bowie, the Rubettes, Slade, Sweet & T.Rex. There's also a few other artists I listened to back then who I'm too embarrassed to even mention now. Embarrassed Wink

why mention it then? LOL
what could it be, can't be worse than Xanadu, Bee Gees, did you listen to the disco duck or something? afternoon delight? bubble gum pop, scooby doo music? LOL
Okay, it was David Cassidy, Gary Glitter, Donny Osmond and the Bay City Rollers, but don't tell anyone. Okay? We'll keep my guilty secret just between the two of us. Embarrassed Wink

You forgot to add Boney M to your list, don't be shy ;)
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I've heard a few tracks here and there I think and they seemed like a capable early fusion/jazz rock band but ultimately I'm not very familiar. I like the Pink Floyd song called "if" though. Wink
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Originally posted by tigerfeet tigerfeet wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ The band "IF" may have passed me by in the 1970's, but prog in general didn't pass me by. I was listening to Barclay James Harvest, Camel, Genesis, Mike Oldfield, Renaissance, Tangerine Dream, Yes, and the Moody Blues, amongst many others, as well as the Glam Rock of David Bowie, the Rubettes, Slade, Sweet & T.Rex. There's also a few other artists I listened to back then who I'm too embarrassed to even mention now. Embarrassed Wink

why mention it then? LOL
what could it be, can't be worse than Xanadu, Bee Gees, did you listen to the disco duck or something? afternoon delight? bubble gum pop, scooby doo music? LOL
Okay, it was David Cassidy, Gary Glitter, Donny Osmond and the Bay City Rollers, but don't tell anyone. Okay? We'll keep my guilty secret just between the two of us. Embarrassed Wink

You forgot to add Boney M to your list, don't be shy ;)

Hey, at least Boney M did a cover of a Mike Batt song. Wink
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^ You're right! I DID forget to include Boney M in my list. Smile
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