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    Posted: September 16 2018 at 08:42
The question is what is the definitive Prog Album for you? That doesnīt mean your favourite but what you think is Prog Rock in its Core. For Me it would be Lizard.. As it has that pure Prog feel about it. It just couldnīt be any other genre. And I think it has all the ingredients by which you could determine a prog album of any era so if you donīt know if its prog just compare it to Lizard and if you find similarities itīs pretty surely prog as this album has no moment where I could think anything else than (this is a prog one) and still its so diverse.
If anyone wants to know in a more exact manner what I am talking about I may add it in a few days or so.
I also want to give Nursery Cryme Credit for being quintessential Prog Album structurewise. And I am aware of the fact that itīs surely impossible to pin down the whole prog movement down to just one album (the honorable mentions arrive one per second in my mind) Sorry for my english this time. Hope there arenīt to many native speakers reading this


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Double album
Cover by Roger Dean
Lots of synths
Enigmatic lyrics
Huge diversity of tempos & moods
Melodic yet complex
Divides opinions among afficionados & connoisseurs
Symphonic to the core
One of the best singers + One of the best guitarist + One of the best bassist + One of the best keyboardist + One of the best drummer

What else can you desire, Mr Bungle ?
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^ Don't forget to add:  Double album: 1 song per side Wink

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote micky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2018 at 10:35
Originally posted by Quinino Quinino wrote:

Double album
Cover by Roger Dean
Lots of synths
Enigmatic lyrics
Huge diversity of tempos & moods
Melodic yet complex
Divides opinions among afficionados & connoisseurs
Symphonic to the core
One of the best singers + One of the best guitarist + One of the best bassist + One of the best keyboardist + One of the best drummer

What else can you desire, Mr Bungle ?

you do realize that you described, perfectly, that the truly enlightened and wizened consider THE quintessential prog album

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=83286
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micky, my man, you nailed it Beer
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ELP's Brain Salad Surgery. It may not be best prog album but it's the quintessential prog album in my book.
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Close to the Edge for me. It has all the ingredients you could want in a prog album (except the great Roger Dean album cover)

I love Tales but I think it divides opinion too much to be called the quintessential prog album.
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Going For The One

not my favourite by a long chalk but just has everything

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Triumvirat-Illusions On A Double Dimple

I'm cheating a bit, because it is my favorite album, but apart from that, it has defined for me what a true prog album epitomises, and was also a personal gateway for me into collecting progressive rock and motivated me to take prog seriously.

Breathtaking vocals, a "stick you finger to The Man" lyrical outlook, astonishing symphonic technique, and raw, gutsy, "real" emotion in every breath of things.
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Ha ha! Close to the Edge hits all of Quinino's and Micky's criteria. I'm a teacher who has various prog rock stuff on the wall to spark conversation of rock music to the younger generation. Interestingly one of my Physics A Level students last year asked me what album would best sum up what prog rock was all about, and while I thought about Dark Side of the Moon (the mainstream choice, perhaps), I went with Close to the Edge. He left for University before I could get his feedback. I'd like to think he's annoying his flatmates with our PA favourite albums as I write!
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  • Drenched with Mellotrons 
  • Soaring lead guitar parts, preferably played on a Gibson guitar (ES 335, Les Paul etc.) 
  • Racing bass guitar parts, preferably on a Rickenbacker 4001 with round-wound strings and plectrum
  • Sublime vocal harmonies 
  • Tight, exquisite drumming. 
Close To The Edge meets all of these criteria for me.  Few bands have mastered that formula, particularly the vocal harmonization.  
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

  • Drenched with Mellotrons 
  • Soaring lead guitar parts, preferably played on a Gibson guitar (ES 335, Les Paul etc.) 
  • Racing bass guitar parts, preferably on a Rickenbacker 4001 with round-wound strings and plectrum
  • Sublime vocal harmonies 
  • Tight, exquisite drumming. 
Close To The Edge meets all of these criteria for me.  Few bands have mastered that formula, particularly the vocal harmonization.  
 

I agree with the above entirely; certainly Yes and most likely 'Close to the edge' is the most quintessential 'Prig' lp. 

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LOL  But that is Yes.   If I didn't know better I'd say he was joking.
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Close to the Edge for me too.
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Quinino Quinino wrote:

Double album
Cover by Roger Dean
Lots of synths
Enigmatic lyrics
Huge diversity of tempos & moods
Melodic yet complex
Divides opinions among afficionados & connoisseurs
Symphonic to the core
One of the best singers + One of the best guitarist + One of the best bassist + One of the best keyboardist + One of the best drummer

What else can you desire, Mr Bungle ?

you do realize that you described, perfectly, that the truly enlightened and wizened consider THE quintessential prog album

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=83286

Yep. Can't wait for the rest of the world to catch up to the brilliance of that album. 3.90 average rating. (spit icon)

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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

LOL  But that is Yes.   If I didn't know better I'd say he was joking.

LOL Well, SOME Yes! 

Tony Kaye didn't use Mellotron, it was Rick who brought that sound to the band.  Moraz didn't seem to use Mellotron as much as Wakeman, inventing his own version (using laser discs instead of magnetic tapes). It was called the "Orchestron."  

Real Mellotron is a groaning, unpredictable mess that lends a great deal of drama to prog music.  Since the tapes were recordings of humans playing notes on real instruments, one can hear bow inflections, breath and other subtle sounds that give the 'tron a very organic, human sound vs. the synths used by guys like Geoff Downes (ugh!).  

Also, Bruf brought a real jazz-swing to the drumming of CTTE, it remains one of his best works.  The entire band was "on" for that recording, and Eddie Offord did a fine job of bringing it all together. 
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Wigwam Fairyport for me. Not just prog, it includes everything I need from the music!
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Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

  • Drenched with Mellotrons 
  • Soaring lead guitar parts, preferably played on a Gibson guitar (ES 335, Les Paul etc.) 
  • Racing bass guitar parts, preferably on a Rickenbacker 4001 with round-wound strings and plectrum
  • Sublime vocal harmonies 
  • Tight, exquisite drumming. 
Close To The Edge meets all of these criteria for me.  Few bands have mastered that formula, particularly the vocal harmonization.  
 

I agree with the above entirely; certainly Yes and most likely 'Close to the edge' is the most quintessential 'Prig' lp. 
 

Man, some typos are just.. well weird, ironic, a bit spooky... you see my inner self just didn't really believe what I was trying to say.. and as is often said, the truth will out!

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Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Wigwam Fairyport for me. Not just prog, it includes everything I need from the music!
 

I LOVE Fairyport!!!! But they are asking for the quintessential 'Prog' (got it right this time!) lp not 'Progressive' lp (ok ok lets not start up that old chestnut again I hear you cry!)

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I'm with the majority on this one. Close to The Edge checks all the boxes.

SEBTP, TLLDOB and TAAB wold also be good selections. 
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