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This might be one to look out for...

Who'd notice the difference?

After being away for a while, and just now perusing many of the threads on the main page and the DNRTM section, I can only conclude that this forum is getting steadily dumber and nastier, as the average member age continues to decrease, and more and more ignorant and anti-social youngsters flock to the site.

Many seem to be here only to cause trouble, and offend the majority.

Many seem to be blocked users who've returned to get "revenge."

Whatever -- the overall level of intelligence and civility here has plummeted, and will continue to do so, I expect.

I believe that the good old days are irretrievably gone -- "success" breeds excess, and the web seems to be frequented mainly by immature assholes.

I think I'll generally stick to writing reviews, PMs, and posting in the Collabs section, as the inmates have clearly taken over the asylum.

As with the wider world, so with the PA forums?

Kudos to the Admins and all of a decent bent who "soldier on," and try to reason with these idiots and increase the level of "discourse" here, but reading the inane, incoherent and hostile "posts" of teenage boys who want to be "bad," instead of making friends and expanding their knowledge of good music, is just not for me.

(I bet we're losing old-timers at a record rate....)

Bah!

I'm genuinely sorry to be a wet blanket (again), and I have no ready "fix" to propose, but I don't think I'm alone in feeling this way.

Seriously, I think that my continuing to read 90% of the crap that is posted lately will inevitably destroy my motivation to write reviews... Does anyone else out there feel increasingly angered, depressed, and "de-motivated" when reading the barrage of outright twaddle that seems to typify this place these days? 

It's "just a music forum," I know, but it USED to be a FUN place!

BTW, I may just hunt down and kill the next person who writes "way overrated!" 

Thoughts, anyone? Encouraging words?

Snow Dog wrote: Personally Peter I am going to continue to try and make this place as "fun" as possible. So stick around, Tony R is still here, Tuxon too. This site still has the potential to be nice place to hang around!

Thanks for that SD -- it helps.

But still, if I want to continue to review (and I do), I think I'd better avoid the "public' forums, in general.

Call me oversensitive....

Peter wrote: ... Does anyone else out there feel increasingly angered, depressed, and "de-motivated" when reading the barrage of outright twaddle that seems to typify this place these days?  It's "just a music forum," I know, but it USED to be a FUN place! BTW, I may just hunt down and kill the next person who writes "way overrated!"  Thoughts, anyone? Encouraging words?

I agree with you.  Although I haven't been a member for very long, I have been a frequent visitor to this site for nearly two years, and have enjoyed reading posts in the forum since it was created (Jan/Feb. 04).  It is sad to see this, but isn't the goal of this site to introduce many new people to the world of progressive rock?  Although there are the inevitable excesses, we must concentrate on the immense good that progarchives has done...I owe 99% of my prog knowledge/enjoyment to this wonderful site, and I'm sure there are many others. 

I wish that you decide to stay and post regularly, Mr. Rideout...because I very much enjoy reading your posts, along with all of the other "old-timers".

And I hope that I am not one of the "bad" one's that you refer to.

Personally Peter, I tend to steer clear of participating in the DNRTM threads myself. As a very general observation, I don't feel they add much to the site, and as you imply, just provide an outlet for pointless and often aggressive discussion. There have been a few exceptions, where intelligent debate has taken place, but even then I find them of limited value as I'm only here for the music.

It's easy enough just to ignore that section completely though.

As a whole, I think the discussion in the main prog lounge has been reasonably good of late, with the exception of the threads posted in the wrong place by people too lazy to think about where they belong, and all those dull "Rate my collection" threads.

I appreciate what you say about keeping to the CZ and PMs, but it is folk like you and rest of the old guard who can raise the quality of the discussions in the main forum, and set an example for others to follow.

^ Points well taken, Easy and Barbs -- thanks!

Still, for a cultured and sensitive new-age guy like myself , it's perhaps best that I minimize my time on those anarchic "wild west" public forums....