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chopper ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 20035 |
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"Once Again" is easily one of my top 10 prog albums (and possibly top 10 albums), there's something quite magical about this album from start to finish, yet everything else I've listened to by BJH is a bit, well, average. I've just listened to Time-Honoured Ghosts and Baby James Harvest and they don't really do anything for me. Am I alone in this? Which other album of theirs should I listen to?
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Blacksword ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
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I'll give Once again a listen..
I don't know anything about this band, apart from the fact that Robert John Godfrey was in them for a while. I had Mockingbird on a compilation ablum many many years ago, and it bored me to tears, sounding like something the Moody Blues would have probably rejected. This does appear to be one of their more popular albums though, so it deserves a listen. |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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chopper ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 20035 |
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Godfrey did the orchestral arrangements for "Once Again" (and they are some of the best I've heard in prog, listen to "Galadriel"). "Mockingbird" is the track that normally pops up on compilations and, whilst it is a fine song, there are several better ones on the album (imo).
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Blacksword ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
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Ah, so RJG was on that album. That's a good enough incentive to check it out..
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Sagichim ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 29 2006 Location: Israel Status: Offline Points: 6632 |
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I love Once Again very much and it was my introduction to the band, I've never really got into Time-Honoured Ghosts and never listened to Baby James Harvest, but the ones I do like are BJH & Other Short Stories, Everyone Is Everybody Else and Octoberon.
First of all BJH were never that progressive but their arrangements were always rich and interesting plus they did have their more progressive songs. BJH & Other Short Stories is my favourite although I've seen many mediocre reviews for it, anyway for me it's kind of a magical album with such a cool atmosphere, beautiful, sad and disturbing, It's their most orchestrated album too, filled with beautiful orchestrated arrangements and some heartfelt melodies, check out the songs Medicine Man and The Poet, those are stunning. Everyone Is Everybody Else is probably their strongest with some of their best material, also contains some of their progiest moments, I'd suggest start with this one. Octoberon is also good and worth checking out if you'll like the others. ![]() |
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TeleStrat ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 27 2014 Location: Norwalk, CA Status: Offline Points: 9319 |
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Octoberon is the only BJH album that I own but I haven't listened to it in years.
After reading these comments I will dig it out and play it today.
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chopper ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 20035 |
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Thanks for the advice, I'll try those ones.
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One of my favourite bands, to me they do not do much wrong.
From their later output, Ring of Changes is highly recommended. |
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Moogtron III ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 26 2005 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 10616 |
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For me, Everyone Is Everybody Else is the best album.
No real classic tracks, but all the songs are quite good and the album has grown on me through the years. It's good from beginning to end. As for songs, "Mocking Bird" and "Galadriel" from Once Again and "Beyond The Grave" from Time Honoured Ghosts are my favorite studio tracks. "The Poet" and "After The Day" are my favorite BJH tracks and maybe in my top 10 of best songs overall, from any artist. Absolutely stunning, those two songs.
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yam yam ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover Team Joined: June 16 2011 Location: Kerberos Status: Offline Points: 7293 |
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They were one of my favourite groups in my late teens/early twenties. For an introduction you can't do much better than their imaginatively titled 'Barclay James Harvest Live' (1974) album...All the best songs from those early Harvest years (they switched to Polydor for this live album) are on it - and apart from 'For No One', which was so majestically presented on the studio album 'Everyone Is Everybody Else', the live versions are actually better imho. I picked it up brand new for two quid at Makro Halesowen (a card-holder only cash and carry warehouse that had a small, but surprisingly well chosen vinyl record department) just after its release, and wore it out in just a few months on my cheap (but very effective) Connoisseur BD1 turntable.
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18169 |
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oooopppppssss listed above!!!
This LIVE album is the best ... absolutely fantastic versions of Summer Soldier and Medicine Man.
Everyone is Everbody Else is a magnificent album and non stop pleasure.
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defectinggrey ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 14 2015 Location: Spain Status: Offline Points: 104 |
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I'm surprised that , no-one has mentioned that they have a song 'Poor Man's Moody Blues'.
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geekfreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 21 2013 Location: Musical Garden Status: Offline Points: 9872 |
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ooh yes... love BJH
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18169 |
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I always thought that it was funny, because the Moodies went "hip" and "cool" and forgot about the music and any meanings in it. It was superficial!
AND there was nothig superficial about Barclay James Harvest!
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Moogtron III ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 26 2005 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 10616 |
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Ah, that's the same albul YamYam has mentioned, the first live one, from 1974? Haven't listened to that, but it's the first one I'm planning to check out now!
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aliano ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 01 2013 Location: A musty corner Status: Offline Points: 264 |
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I love them.They have good singers in Les and John.Also John is kind of an underrated guitarist imo.
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chopper ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 20035 |
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Green Shield Stamp ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 17 2009 Location: Telford, UK Status: Offline Points: 933 |
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I agree that the 1974 live album is probably the best album to get overall. I find the band a little frustrating because they are obviously hugely talented and have produced some great songs but their overall sound is just a little too limp and tepid. A little more drama (especially in the vocals) could have propelled BJH into the big league.
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AreYouHuman ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 12 2013 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 470 |
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They’ve been a favorite of mine for going on four decades now, though I do agree that they can be a bit on the less-than-dynamic side (“limp” is a little harsh, IMO). The more progressive tracks, by and large, were provided by the late great Woolly Wolstenholme, who for better or worse was the George Harrison of the group, usually contributing one or two songs per album: In Search of England, Ra, Beyond the Grave, Sea of Tranquility, Moonwater.Poor
Man’s Moody Blues, was done as a joke of sorts, answering a critic’s label of them,
but it’s now rightly recognized as one of their classics.
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Lees: definitely an underrated guitarist.
He absolutely smokes on the live Medicine Man.
EMI did a bang-up job with the reissues of their first four albums, with tons of bonus tracks, mostly singles tracks and BBC recordings, some of songs that don’t have studio counterparts. The first especially is like a treasure hunt.The
first one I ever bought was Octoberon, which is still my favorite (though perhaps
tied with Once Again).
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Caption: We tend to take ourselves a little too seriously.
Silly human race! Yes is for everybody! |
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Andrea Cortese ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 05 2005 Status: Offline Points: 4411 |
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oh, what a band. I love them and almost got the entire discography.
"Octoberon" and "Everyone Is Everybody Else" are the most interesting studio recordings - from a prog rock perspective - they released during the polydor years. If looking for something harder you should get the 1974 "Live" of course. Personally, I'm very fond of "XII" (well, of "Baby James Harvest" too!).
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