Is Steven Wilson making Prog music?

sorcerer kermes wrote: ow! is that an insult?!! i never knew! im so sorry!! i appologise everyone i insulted, you all can make up your minds and you dont need any sites or web pages

Dean wrote: sorcerer kermes wrote: ow! is that an insult?!! i never knew! im so sorry!! i appologise everyone i insulted, you all can make up your minds and you dont need any sites or web pages That is the most insincere and shallow appology I have ever seen. Please find yourself subject to a free one month suspension of your account while you reconsider your behaviour and conduct here.

Argonaught wrote: I like this "free suspension" thing. It's like a sales promotion: "Submit three insulting remarks and get a free ban for a month".

sorcerer kermes wrote: The Doctor wrote: sorcerer kermes wrote: Genesis after Gabriel and Hackett was not a prog band it was a sucessful pop act Burning Rope The Lady Lies Duke's Travels Dodo/Lurker Home By The Sea/Second Tonight, Tonight, Tonight Domino The Brazilian Do The Neurotic Feeding The Fire Driving The Last Spike Fading Lights Dreaming While You Sleep On The Shoreline To name a few. look for the genre mentioned for each album: http://www.allmusic.com/album/invisible-touch-mw0000190104 http://www.allmusic.com/album/we-cant-dance-mw0000269602 http://www.allmusic.com/album/duke-mw0000189985 http://www.allmusic.com/album/abacab-mw0000650185 http://www.allmusic.com/album/genesis-mw0000650186 or look for them at last.fm: http://www.last.fm/music/Genesis/We+Can%27t+Dance read the bio: http://www.discogs.com/artist/Genesis or any other site or music community , even you can ask a kid in a kindergarten! or (the best way i suggest) you can simply listen to them and see if you can recognise any difference between Gabriel years or after that!

Well, since the OP has been banned, I'm not sure if this is worth posting but.............................

I couldn't help but notice that ALL Genesis albums are listed as "pop/rock", under "genre" in allmusic, making this list of links basically useless.  Allmusic, however, also lists "styles" under genre, which is more specific for each album.  I think a system like that has been suggested here more than once, but would be a lot of work to set up initially and make take away from the focus of the site, which is obviously progressive rock.

Genesis at it's most commercially sucessful would still throw the occasional bone to the old prog fans.  I'll never forgive them for Misunderstanding, though. (it really was some kind of mistake)   But hey, before I got into their old prog stuff I was enjoying Follow You, Follow Me on the radio.  I do love the much maligned Who Dunnit?  The band at its silliest best.


Edited by Slartibartfast - March 18 2013 at 13:42

Hey peeps. I kind of lost my old password and my email address has changed. The old one I have no access to - so I'm an old newbie  . Having read back I see that the originator of this thread was kind of argumentative but was the only option to ban him for a month? I see a potential language barrier problem, not necessarily an over the top, argumentative person, who could perhaps have been spoken to via private messaging as I was by Rushfan many many moons ago when I took umbrage to some thing, namely the non inclusion of Stratovarius here on Progarchives in any form. Anyways, it's good to be able to post again and maybe a fresh start will revitalise me regarding the forums and the album reviews.

Regardless of OP's insincere and shallow behaviour, he's let me know Steven Wilson, an unknown artist for me. No doubt about it. 

Harry Hood wrote: I remember years ago in an interview posted on this very website, Swilson stated that he didn't care for the prog label and that he made what he called "porcupine tree music".

Yes, that was about 8 years ago now.  He has since apologized for his comments about other bands being "regressive" and has said that he has come around to being comfortable with the "prog" label and wanting to make prog music.

I think he is just the guy that so-called "real" proggers love to hate.  He does come off as rather arrogant at times, but he's made his own success (more than just about any contemporary band on this site) and his popularity at least entitles him to feel that he's doing something right, don't you think?

Jbird wrote: silverpot wrote: And last, what defines a "genius"? I know Einstein was one, but in prog music? It's a strong word and should be used sparingly, methinks. "To me you're a genius, to O'Malley you're a genius, but to a genius you're no genius." It had to be said