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Kashmir75
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Posted: May 26 2010 at 17:10 | |||
If he isn't trolling, this guy certainly did say something pretty inflammatory. So DT and PT both 'objectively suck'. I didn't realise someone had done a university study on what music is 'good' or 'bad'. Music is entirely subjective. If you don't like DT or PT, okay, but there's no need to come into a thread and start bashing. Gee, if I didn't discover DT or PT, I probably wouldn't be on this site right now. There's plenty of bands I don't care for, but I don't feel compelled to go into threads and start saying they 'objectively suck' and that their fans are ignorant white supremacists.
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KingCrimson250
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Posted: May 26 2010 at 17:47 | |||
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that was a blind post?
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Posted: May 26 2010 at 18:05 | |||
...I certainly hope so...
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Kashmir75
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Posted: May 27 2010 at 03:04 | |||
Oh right. Somehow I missed kingcrimson250's post about the fact he was joking.
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Posted: May 27 2010 at 14:36 | |||
I missed both these posts
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Nightshine
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Posted: May 27 2010 at 14:44 | |||
Yeah. Goddamn section 2b of the charter of rights and freedoms! How dare anyone express it freely! |
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Posted: September 17 2010 at 18:52 | |||
Not anymore.
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Kashmir75
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Posted: September 17 2010 at 18:54 | |||
I think without MP around, insisting on producing everything, we may get a significantly improved album next time. With the other guys getting more of a say.
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J-Man
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Posted: September 17 2010 at 19:08 | |||
I would be so happy if this were closed... we really don't need another DT bashing thread.
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: September 17 2010 at 19:15 | |||
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Kashmir75
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Posted: September 17 2010 at 19:16 | |||
I wasn't bashing. I'm a fan of DT. As sad as I am that Mike is going, I think it may reenergise the band, and give the other members a chance to contribute their ideas more. I am interested to hear what they'll do next.
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J-Man
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Posted: September 17 2010 at 19:19 | |||
I haven't read the entire thread, but I've read enough to reach this conclusion... Maybe you weren't bashing, but a lot of people are. |
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Kashmir75
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Posted: September 17 2010 at 19:27 | |||
I am not sure really whether I'm on MP or DT's side on this. On Mike's side, its true that DT probably do need a break from constant touring and recording. On the other guys' side, they didn't want to wait a whole year while Mike went off and did his side projects. I think it may have been a little more animosity-filled than the official press release made out. But I'm sure he will reunite with them one day. MP himself has already said that he didn't want to leave, just a break, so he'll be back eventually.
Question is, who the hell is going to replace him in the meantime?
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Posted: September 17 2010 at 19:29 | |||
My response to this thread on September 17th, 2010:
Yes. |
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Posted: September 21 2010 at 19:11 | |||
And you are assuming that James is the person that is making the whole thing mechanical, static and routine? His solo album did not sound all that routine for me at all! And was a lot more interesting than the recent material -- which I think has been way too controlled by a guitar and drums ... it was easy to see on the most recent tour ... you never heard Jordan and you rarely heard John ... and James made room on the stage for the musicianship ... and you gotta admire someone that puts aside his ego to let his mates play!
This is just plain wrong ...
Ohhh ... you can blame that on the singer!
I'm not sure it is showing off ... I do think that there is a massive disparity in the band in terms of musicianship that is not being addressed or allowed. I don't think that James is getting the chance these days that he had before, and I almost doubt that there has been any input in most of the musci from James at all ... how can you create words for something you don't feel?
I think that they got comfortable with their success and sales ... and when they each had a million in the bank and now had 10 guitars to choose from -- you could see John's cabinet with 6 guitars in it on the stage! -- I think it was 6 -- the tendency is to not pay attention to the music anymore ... you finally have your dream guitars ... one last bit ... John's basses ... he used to play the Yamaha's I think, and now he is playing the Music Man specials ... and Yamaha Basses are not known for metal or have the low tones that the band is asking him to do on stage and studio ... and the MM basses perform that stuff way better. It's simply a better tone and taste for rock music on the heavy/loud side of things ... nothing else. He can fret up and down in any bass that he wants to ... so it becomes a game of upmanship with the "noise" and the "loudness" ... and personally, all it tells me is ... that John ... you're losing it! Or the band is not "together" any more. Edited by moshkito - September 21 2010 at 19:19 |
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Posted: September 21 2010 at 19:52 | |||
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Posted: September 21 2010 at 20:09 | |||
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Anthony H.
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Posted: September 21 2010 at 20:11 | |||
DT bashers are annoying as f**k. It seems like nobody can handle not being a fan of the band and also not being a total ass-hat about it. |
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Posted: September 21 2010 at 20:15 | |||
Great show. |
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Posted: September 21 2010 at 23:53 | |||
Hahaha, I had forgotten about this thread.
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