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Epignosis
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Posted: March 08 2012 at 21:49 |
I'm not sure I agree.
If this is true, then what is the meaning of eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil?
Please, answer (if you wish to) in the Christian Thread!
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Fairieswearboots
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Posted: March 10 2012 at 02:05 |
Religion is all metaphor, very good subject for prog whether its anti or not. Definitely not worth arguing about. A band that comes to mind is Black Hole an Italian progressive doom metal band from the 80's who have a fantastic evil and atmospheric album call land of mystery. It has been re-issued on vinyl and is available at many metal distros.
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Textbook
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Posted: March 11 2012 at 20:41 |
Religion is certainly ripe grounds for lyrics as it's a potent admixture of philosophy and psychology.
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moshkito
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Posted: March 12 2012 at 09:46 |
Textbook wrote:
Religion is certainly ripe grounds for lyrics as it's a potent admixture of philosophy and psychology. |
Nahhhh ... religion is a topic to show how well we do not agree on anything at all ... and how we all do not even know what it means in the end! Me included!
I'm sticking to the funny side of life and am going to watch "Leif of Bryan" again ... it's much more progressive and fun than this discussion here!
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: March 12 2012 at 20:58 |
The greatest story ever told? With aliens, big noses, and sh*t. And let's not forget some full frontal nudity. Very important. Starless and Squeaky cats.
Edited by Slartibartfast - March 12 2012 at 21:04
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Textbook
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Posted: March 12 2012 at 22:06 |
Moshkito has a point, religion is also sometimes used as an excuse for an argument. But that is also good fodder for lyrics, how persuasive can you be as a lyricist?
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octopus-4
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Posted: March 15 2012 at 16:15 |
I haven't read the whole thread, honestly, so I may be saying something already said.
Fabrizio De Andre' - La Buona Novella and its revisitation from PFM: AD 2010 is a perfect example of a concept album against the catholic clerical view of the passion and it contains a prayer to Mary that's full of poetry.... RPI is full of this kind of things, because Vatican is there but La Buona Novella is surely the best in terms of lyrics.
Nobody mentioned Camel's Never Let Go...also that is a form of religion.
Not in a song but on the album's sleeve "In the Beginning Man created God..." it's on Aqualung
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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dennismoore
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Posted: March 16 2012 at 13:20 |
Textbook wrote:
I suppose you could call his Testify albums anti-religious in that they put me right off religion. |
Amen brother!
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"Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire
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dennismoore
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Posted: March 16 2012 at 13:30 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
The greatest story ever told? With aliens, big noses, and sh*t. And let's not forget some full frontal nudity. Very important.
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full frontal nudity???
Slarti my lad:
I really am trying(in general) to be a more enlightned, progressive, agreeable person these days(given the truly dark times we now live in)...
but...
As a huge Monty Python & Life of Brian devotee, I must vehimently disagree with you about the full frontal nudity in Life of Brian. Seeing that skinny little tart Judith full frontal was not entirely a bad thing, but the full frontal of Brain was indeed a life-scaring moment for me and not one I would want another man to endure.
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"Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire
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Riuku
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Posted: March 21 2012 at 10:01 |
I love Rush, Tool, APC, Jethro Tull, Porcupine Tree/Steven Wilson, Opeth.
I can't tell but sometimes Genesis seems to take a few attacks, like One for the Vine (blindly following). I argue that even Supper's Ready can be either religious or anti-religious. Also, Firth of Fifth?
They're on the archives and I consider them progressive but it seems they don't get any attention here, perhaps for being more "indie" than progressive but Circa Survive have an album called On Letting Go about letting go of Religion I think. Great lyrics on that one atheist or not.
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Riuku
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Posted: March 21 2012 at 10:07 |
Also, VdGG and Peter Hammill, I love them
Have they been mentioned yet? The Lie, enough said.
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Textbook
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Posted: March 21 2012 at 21:55 |
Rush's album Clockwork Angels has just been retitled "Religion Sucks The Balls, The Big Hairy Balls, Is That Clear Enough For Everyone Now Epignosis."
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Ambient Hurricanes
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Posted: March 22 2012 at 00:11 |
^I read your post and got so scared that I actually went to rushisaband to make sure that it wasn't true.
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I love dogs, I've always loved dogs
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Textbook
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Posted: March 28 2012 at 16:25 |
I can't believe they still haven't changed that domain name. It's so lame. I would pay my own money to make it rushisaf**kingawesomebandyouheardme.com
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iamathousandapples
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Posted: March 28 2012 at 21:51 |
The Dear Hunter - No God pretty much from sentence one. Although I guess one could debate whether that's an attack on religion or just a counterpoint to a commonly-believed criticism.
And that brings up a point that I just might be late to the party about, what necessarily constitutes a song to be anti-religious? Does it need to be a song specifically against religion in a to-the-letter definition, or can it also incorporate songs about not being religious and being thankful that they're not?
Edited by iamathousandapples - March 28 2012 at 22:01
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Ambient Hurricanes
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Posted: March 28 2012 at 23:24 |
Textbook wrote:
I can't believe they still haven't changed that domain name. It's so lame. I would pay my own money to make it rushisaf**kingawesomebandyouheardme.com |
It's supposed to refer to how, every time somebody mentions Rush, people think he's referring to Rush Limbaugh. Apparently Ed (the site owner) wanted to inform everyone that Rush was a band, not a talk show host.
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I love dogs, I've always loved dogs
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m2thek
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Posted: March 28 2012 at 23:51 |
Aqualung was (I believe) self-described as pro-religion/anti-church which is certainly related
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Textbook
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Posted: March 29 2012 at 02:01 |
They could go with rushisabandrushlimbaughisaninsufferablebagoffesteringexcrement.com
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 29 2012 at 02:37 |
I think the band Atheist may have some slightly anti religious sentiment.
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Textbook
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Posted: March 29 2012 at 03:24 |
Before being called Atheist, they were called Raging Atheists Avowing A Gory End, RAVAGE. (Yes, that's true.) There's also the Swedish prog-black-metal group, Apostasy.
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