Your expectations on Metallica's "Death Magnetic" |
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npjnpj
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 05 2007 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 2720 |
Posted: September 08 2008 at 11:08 |
I was pleasently surprised. After a few listens I think that it's on the level of the Black Album, much better than I expected.
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stonebeard
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
Posted: September 08 2008 at 14:11 |
If I were to hear the album, I think I would believe it is their best since the Black Album, very proggy in style, furiously fast without being uninteresting, and altogether pretty good. Something in me says that I would think Hetfield can't sing or write very good lyrics, but I don't think that would matter to me.
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The T
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Posted: September 08 2008 at 14:27 |
Well, I won't listen to it until is released (I abhorr mp3's and downloads).. But my expectations have greatly become higher after the reviews I've read and some comments here... And the fact that they didn't appear in MTV is an even better signal... I hope.. I hope...
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aapatsos
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 11 2005 Location: Manchester, UK Status: Offline Points: 9226 |
Posted: September 08 2008 at 16:04 |
If this has not been posted yet, here you can have a very good listen of the majority of the tracks...
The album is by far the best since Black Album, but this might not be the case for most of Metallica fans... Enjoy: http://www.metallica.com/index.asp?item=601197 |
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Barla
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Posted: September 08 2008 at 22:02 |
Four days remaining.
Can't wait. Friday, when I finish school day, I'll go directly to the nearest CD shop and buy Death Magnetic!! (like any huge Metallica fan like me should do!) |
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topofsm
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 17 2008 Location: Arizona, USA Status: Offline Points: 1698 |
Posted: September 08 2008 at 22:42 |
My friend says that it sounds like a mix of "The Black Album" and "Load". Based on the couple of songs I've heard, that doesn't sound accurate.
What would you guys say? I guess I'll find out tomorrow when it comes out.
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BroSpence
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Posted: September 08 2008 at 23:04 |
I'd say more like Load and AJFA
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Peter
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Posted: September 08 2008 at 23:05 |
I expect I won't like it.
Of course, the "death" in the title puts me off right away, and as a middle-aged non-metal fan, I'm obviously not in the target audience.
Not to get too preachy, but what is it with today's metal and the overriding fascination/obsession with death and all things gory? I worked in big city hospitals for years, including emergency and a cancer clinic, and I saw plenty of death and gory things, and they are not "cool" to me. They're usually rather sad, in fact.
Life is cool. Birdies and flowers are cool. Life is for the living.
But to each his own, I guess....
Anyway, I hope you Metallica fans enjoy the new album.
But please don't die or kill for it!
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Atavachron
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Posted: September 08 2008 at 23:10 |
oh gosh Peter, death has always been huge in metal, going as far back as Sabbath I reckon, one of the first reactions in music against the flower movement I guess ..cool thing about Sabbath was they were hippies too, and the darkness was more image than anything
Edited by Atavachron - September 08 2008 at 23:14 |
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jammun
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Posted: September 08 2008 at 23:24 |
Ya mean to say people actually listen to the lyrics of metal bands |
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Peter
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Posted: September 09 2008 at 00:37 |
Yeah Ata -- don't take me too seriously, or take offence, please, but I just find it all rather one-dimensional, contrived, over-done, and well, a wee bit unnatural and unhealthy, for lack of a better word.
Not that I think a steady intake of such music would harm most sane folks, any more than a fondness for horror, the Old Testament or murder-mystery novels would.
Me though, I usually want to be lifted up when I turn on my stereo.
Again, to each his own -- I'm also quite aware that there is lots of FAR darker music than Metallica's out there for our young men to get down to.
Seen the new Slipknot album cover & title yet? Now that's bleak. Bet they're rich too -- there's just no pleasing some folks, is there?
Then again, of course (and to respond to Jammun, above) the music aside, lyrics mean a lot to me, and I really pay attention to them. Too much dark, negative or angry stuff (unless it has some sort of point or lesson, beyond a mere cynical profit motive targetting young male hormonal angst ) simply makes me feel anxious and bad. Just not my thing.
But I know many folks don't pay much attention to lyrics.
But hey, what a dull world 'twould be if we were all alike. Imagine having only one item or genre on the musical menu! Edited by Peter - September 09 2008 at 01:09 |
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
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Atavachron
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Posted: September 09 2008 at 00:48 |
indeed, hopefully most of us grow out of that lifestyle |
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Peter
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Posted: September 09 2008 at 01:05 |
Well, I hesitate to say "grew out of" (because ample past experience here has taught me to avoid the resultant virtual beatings ), but would this be a good time to say I was briefly a Sabbath fan (in Grades 6-7), before getting into prog rock?
(By that I mean REAL prog rock....) Edited by Peter - September 09 2008 at 01:10 |
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
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aapatsos
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Posted: September 10 2008 at 17:16 |
IT's on the stores from today actually! At least HMV in the UK.
From a few listens (being hearing the songs from the site several times) I reckon is a 4 star record. Mixes all their albums apart from the disgusting St. Anger. Great comeback IMO (could not reach the level of AJFA but let's be serious, that would be unrealistic...) |
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Nightfly
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Posted: September 10 2008 at 17:39 |
It's been posted so the wait will soon be over.....looking forward to hearing it.
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inrainbows
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Posted: September 10 2008 at 18:49 |
I agree , great album indeed |
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Tapfret
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Posted: September 11 2008 at 13:31 |
Metallica has been a disappointment since I got all psyched out about the release of the black album, thinking that they would explore uncharted metal territory. I picked up the album the day it was released, took it back the next day for a refund, what a pile that thing was. Admittedly I was also surprised that St. Anger was a good album.
Anyway, regarding the new album, I expect it will suck hard like the 90's albums. Especially when St. Anger was their best album since MoP and it got endlessly ridiculed. Yep, they'll go back to crappy radio metal. But I hope they surprise me. Edit: Ok, just checked Last.FM, The cover art is an anus shaped like a coffin. Edited by Tapfret - September 11 2008 at 14:14 |
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Tapfret
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Posted: September 11 2008 at 13:48 |
I work in oncology myself, and the death I see is easily separated from the death dramatized in some of the music I listen to. In fact, much of the death I see is met with dignity after long, valiant battles. That being said, I can understand your position being that you also worked ER. Much of that death is unexpected and tragic. But I also was influenced by music that had those themes through my formative years. So I am not so easily shocked. And just I side note: The band Death was a project of Chuck Schuldiner, who died of brain cancer. It is my understanding that Schuldiner's royalty rights were given to a cancer research group to pay for his surgery. So purchasing a Death album now is supporting cancer research. If that makes you feel any better. |
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Peter
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Posted: September 12 2008 at 19:41 |
^ That's pretty cool about Death, Tapfret. Thanks for the story, and for sharing your experiences.
Anyway, it's no big deal -- I'm not generalizing about metal fans or anything (in fact I seem to recall hearing of a poll that said they were gentle souls, overall), it's just that the music aside (which doesn't generally "turn my crank"), I simply cannot relate to the prevailing dark themes and imagery in much of metal. They really put me off, but again to each his own. I know many are attracted to the technical musicianship so often displayed in metal, and focus less on the lyrics and the uber-macho, unsmiling, gloomy poses affected by so many of the bands.
For the record, I think Metallica's "Enter Sandman" is a pretty cool song! Edited by Peter - September 12 2008 at 19:42 |
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
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The T
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Posted: September 12 2008 at 22:10 |
To liste to metal my good teacher, you usually have to have some screw loose or something...... sorry but it's the case...... so it's pretty understandable that the imagery that we select, usually dark and death-related, is just shocking for more.... traditional people....
And please, metal is not "uber macho" lyrics.... You may be confused with hair metal or with more classic heavy metal a la judas priest..... If you read death metal's lyrics, I'm pretty sure "macho" will not be the idea that crosses your mind... abvout the gloomy poses... it's reaction teacher... it's the opposite to N'sync and all pop and the stuff that SELLS..... Metal is also ROCK IN OPPOSITION, but not like RIO, but because is opposed to what's considered "good, educated, christian".
Metal has a lot of psycological ramifications that should be known before emmiting a harsh judgement on how it works... Of course, tastes are other thing, and I understand your dislike of the death imagery. In some cases, it may be just a pose..... In others, it's because it's the opposite to "life, light, christ, good"... Remember, many metallers, the orginals, were outcasts of society. So.... should they be writing about.... cars and girlfriends?
And let's not start talking about Norwegian Black Metal... then you'd really faint.......
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