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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

I've added to my list

The Cult  (UK)  -  Love  (Post-, 1985)
Not a punk album. 
Well, I don't see it as a matter of objective truth.
Nobody classifies The Cult as a punk band or that album you mention as punk. So... 

On RYM, this album is tagged as Post-Punk and Gothic Rock, both considered Punk sub-genres, and that's good enough to me.


Gothic rock and punk have nothing much in common anymore. Post-punk was already distancing themselves from the 70s punk already. 

RYM also classifies the album as neo-psychedelia which is wrong, because the music does not have such sounds. 

There is already some hard rock in there. 

edit: having just listened to the album (forgot how good it was), I still say this album does not belong in any kind of punk list. 


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I've noticed this thread just now. 

My fave are the first Clash up to London Calling, the american Green Jello, the early Ramones
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Originally posted by Octopus II Octopus II wrote:

Magazine - Real Life
The Ramones - Leave Home
The Clash - London Calling
The Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks ....
Buzzcocks - Love Bites
The Stranglers - The Raven
The Damned - Machine Gun Etiquette
The Jam - In The City
Public Image Limited - First Edition
The Ruts - The Crack
Gang Of Four - Entertainment
Wire- Pink Flag
Discharge - Hear Nothing See Nothing Say Nothing
Stiff Little Fingers - Inflammable Material
The Rezillos - Can't Stand The Rezillos
X-Ray Spex - Germ Free Adolescents


Nice list!

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Now I've also added to my list

U2  (UK)  -  War   (Post-, 1983)
                      quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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^ not a punk Lp at all
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Originally posted by mellotronwave mellotronwave wrote:

^ not a punk Lp at all
This is fast turning into a Post-Punk thread. Not that I mind, as I can't stand punk anyway. Tongue
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And here's one of the true Punk's anthems:

                 
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^ far from the revolutionary, anti-systems, anti-establishment hymn as his proselyts boasted back then ...
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The Sex Pistols: Never Mind the Bollocks
Five and Dimes- Echoplex
Nine Pound Hammer- Hayseed Timebomb
Man or Astro-Man?- Destroy All Astromen
The Rezillos - Can't Stand The Rezillos
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

This is fast turning into a Post-Punk thread. Not that I mind, as I can't stand punk anyway. Tongue

Well, it's just like I can't stand all of your much Pop-influenced music. 
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

This is fast turning into a Post-Punk thread. Not that I mind, as I can't stand punk anyway. Tongue

Well, it's just like I can't stand all of your much Pop-influenced music. 

And who can blame you. I've listened to some pretty dire Pop-influenced music recently. Tongue
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My fav post-punk band: 

Devo, profeti della Devoluzione, padri della new wave. Alla fine, avevano ragione loro. - Music Like
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

This is fast turning into a Post-Punk thread. Not that I mind, as I can't stand punk anyway. Tongue


Well, it's just like I can't stand all of your much Pop-influenced music. 


And who can blame you. I've listened to some pretty dire Pop-influenced music recently. Tongue


This is hilarious. :)

I've lamented that the topics have become rather boring, predictable and repetitive (especially those coming from myself) but I rather love the idea of a topic where we mention what we can't stand of other members music interests. Only for those people who are cool with such things, and could find it fun, as some get more easily offended than others.

I would not do it as I am still a moderator here (even if a bad one) and I could see that leading to problems. So actually no. I am happy to be someone who loves lots of punky and poppy music, and punk and pop related music. I love lots of Post-Punk, lots of art/avant punk and art/avant pop.... Lots of punk and pop is in my wheelhouse.

Variety is the spice of life. I respect those who can respect a wide diversity of tastes, try to keep an open mind and ears, don't judge and dismiss too quickly or too easily...
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

I've added to my list

<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; : rgb248, 248, 252; font-size: 12pt;">The Cult  </span><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; font-size: 13.3333px; : rgb248, 248, 252;">(UK)</span><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; : rgb248, 248, 252; font-size: 12pt;">  -  Love  (Post-, 1985)</span>
Not a punk album. 
Well, I don't see it as a matter of objective truth.
Nobody classifies The Cult as a punk band or that album you mention as punk. So... 


On RYM, this album is tagged as Post-Punk and Gothic Rock, both considered Punk sub-genres, and that's good enough to me.

It shouldn't be. Seriously. What does your ears tell you? Punk? I find that hard to believe.
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^ As a starting point for my own entire list, I had decided to use RYM's Punk definition because I see some good reason in it. So it's not about my own idea and feelings of true Punk because that was formed in the late 1970s after hearing some British Punk Rock and not least Sex Pistols. 
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

^ As a starting point for my own entire list, I had decided to use RYM's Punk definition because I see some good reason in it. So it's not about my own idea and feelings of true Punk because that was formed in the late 1970s after hearing some British Punk Rock and not least Sex Pistols. 

Are they accurate though. I've just seen they classify Velvet Underground as punk. Credibility is going downhill... Thumbs Down


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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


^ As a starting point for my own entire list, I had decided to use RYM's Punk definition because I see some good reason in it. So it's not about my own idea and feelings of true Punk because that was formed in the late 1970s after hearing some British Punk Rock and not least Sex Pistols. 
You do as you please. Personally I don't see the point of not trusting one's ears every once in a while. There's just no way The Cult - Love is punk, even in the slightest. It looks silly seeing it mentioned here.

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Hmmm...punk you say? 

The Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables
The Pogues - Rum, Sodomy & the Lash
The Clash - London Calling
Patti Smith - Horses
The Stooges - Debut (1969)
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

^ As a starting point for my own entire list, I had decided to use RYM's Punk definition because I see some good reason in it. So it's not about my own idea and feelings of true Punk because that was formed in the late 1970s after hearing some British Punk Rock and not least Sex Pistols. 

Are they accurate though. I've just seen they classify Velvet Underground as punk. Credibility is going downhill... Thumbs Down

Not as Punk but, as one of several other tags, as Proto-Punk, which I've seen many other places, for instance in this book

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Another thing good to mention is the very informative and well-written book about the American 

Pre-Punk, Proto-Punk, Punk Rock, Art Punk and Post-Punk in the years 1961-80,

From the Velvets to the Voidoids. A Pre-Punk History for a Post-Punk World (1993) by Clinton Heylin.



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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

^ As a starting point for my own entire list, I had decided to use RYM's Punk definition because I see some good reason in it. So it's not about my own idea and feelings of true Punk because that was formed in the late 1970s after hearing some British Punk Rock and not least Sex Pistols. 

Are they accurate though. I've just seen they classify Velvet Underground as punk. Credibility is going downhill... Thumbs Down

Not as Punk but as Proto-Punk, which I've seen many other places, for instance in this book

They give the definition of the punk genre and as example of albums they give Velvet Underground. I disagree. A lot of garage rock bands influenced punk and even psychedelia, but they were not punk. 
Proto-punk is a retrospective term that helps point out the music that lead to the birth of what would become punk as a genre. Sorry to state the obvious here...
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