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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: September 12 2009 at 08:55 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
TartanTantrum wrote:
It has to be the LP. I am 50 now and was brought up with them. Besides, I can't read the sleeve notes on CDs anymore! |
I'm only 43 until March, but I don't care for the LP other than the large format covers. 
I can't read the CD sleeve notes either. 
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I like MP3 because it's convenient and poratable!
I like LPs cos the sound is the best (As long as you clean them properly) and I love the feel and packaging and the different colour vinyl etc
I have no thoughts about CD's other than they play music.
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The Block
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Posted: September 12 2009 at 09:04 |
mp3s may be great but cds can be turned into mp3s
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SentimentalMercenary
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Posted: September 12 2009 at 09:51 |
CDs all the way. MP3s should be illegal (ok i'm exagerating, but...). MP3s are slowly eroding the incentive artists had to produce music at professional sound quality level. The more demand there is for MP3s, the less demand there is for CDs, the less you are going to see bands investing in sound quality. This is a real issue imo.
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: September 12 2009 at 11:50 |
High bitrate MP3s sound exactly the same as CDs.
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The Sleepwalker
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Posted: September 12 2009 at 12:20 |
I voted CD's. I always buy an album on CD mainly because of the cover art etc. I do always rip the CD's and get them on my ipod, cause a CD isn't that entertaining when sitting in the bus without a CD player... I've never really experienced vinyl records. My parents uesed to have vinyls, but got rid of them a long time before I got really interested in music.
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progkidjoel
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Posted: September 12 2009 at 19:26 |
I choose CD's - Hate the fact that MP3's cost nearly the same for nothing but data, and I don't like the fact that they're stuck on my PC/iPod until I burn them to discs.
I don't have a record player, although I'm considering saving up for one... Just not too excited about having to re-buy alot of my albums on LP...
So CD's, all round.
-Joel
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: September 13 2009 at 02:33 |
progkidjoel wrote:
I choose CD's - Hate the fact that MP3's cost nearly the same for nothing but data, and I don't like the fact that they're stuck on my PC/iPod until I burn them to discs.
I don't have a record player, although I'm considering saving up for one... Just not too excited about having to re-buy alot of my albums on LP...
So CD's, all round.
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data? Last time I checked, MP3s contained music ...
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progkidjoel
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Posted: September 13 2009 at 02:46 |
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: September 13 2009 at 03:02 |
^ I know. But why is what you see more important than what you hear, when we're talking about music?
I think that 20 years from now CDs and vinyl LPs will be almost extinct, or at the very least CDs will join vinyl LPs in their role as obscure collectors' items. I don't think that by then we'll still be using MP3s, since file size will no longer matter then (we'll surely have terabytes of space on mobile players). My guess is that we'll purchase digital packages instead of CDs ... those packages will contain MP3s (for backward compatibility), high-def audio in various formats (stereo, 5.1, ...) and of course also the information we currently get as a paper booklet.
Personally, I'm looking forward to that ... I really care about the music much more than about the plastic case & disc.
Edited by Mr ProgFreak - September 13 2009 at 03:03
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The Sleepwalker
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Posted: September 13 2009 at 05:24 |
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
^ I know. But why is what you see more important than what you hear, when we're talking about music?
I think that 20 years from now CDs and vinyl LPs will be almost extinct, or at the very least CDs will join vinyl LPs in their role as obscure collectors' items. I don't think that by then we'll still be using MP3s, since file size will no longer matter then (we'll surely have terabytes of space on mobile players). My guess is that we'll purchase digital packages instead of CDs ... those packages will contain MP3s (for backward compatibility), high-def audio in various formats (stereo, 5.1, ...) and of course also the information we currently get as a paper booklet.
Personally, I'm looking forward to that ... I really care about the music much more than about the plastic case & disc.
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I think that's a pretty interesting thing. For me, the experience of an album without the artwork is not complete. The artwork (nearly always) fits in with the mood of the album and what the band wants to express with the music. The artwork creates a certain "image", which makes the music on the album more complete and clear to me.
IMO the artwork and booklet also make much more sense when being paper, instead of a digital thing. Touching the artwork/booklet is more... intimate (if that's the right word to describe it) than staring at a digital file.
I'm not really sure about the extinction of CD's and LP's in 20 years. Most people will probably download digital files, I do agree with you about that... but quite recently in The Netherlands it seemed LP's have been growing in sales. Even big (mainstream) record stores suddenly started selling LP's.
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ten years after
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Posted: September 13 2009 at 07:23 |
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
^ I know. But why is what you see more important than what you hear, when we're talking about music?
I think that 20 years from now CDs and vinyl LPs will be almost extinct, or at the very least CDs will join vinyl LPs in their role as obscure collectors' items. I don't think that by then we'll still be using MP3s, since file size will no longer matter then (we'll surely have terabytes of space on mobile players). My guess is that we'll purchase digital packages instead of CDs ... those packages will contain MP3s (for backward compatibility), high-def audio in various formats (stereo, 5.1, ...) and of course also the information we currently get as a paper booklet.
Personally, I'm looking forward to that ... I really care about the music much more than about the plastic case & disc.
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I think you are right although I doubt it will take as long as 20 years. It's hard to argue against it being the best way of packaging music and for kids growing up now it will be great.
For me, i have enough nostalgia to want to own CDs as the next best thing to the vinyl I grew up with.
Maybe this is the voice of an older generation but i feel that the harder it is to acquire something the more its possession is appreciated.
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Anirml
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Posted: September 13 2009 at 07:25 |
If just CD's had vinyl size  ! The small artwork on CD's is just way to small! I want something I have to use two hands to hold
Edited by Anirml - September 13 2009 at 07:27
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JD
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Posted: September 13 2009 at 08:28 |
So many things to consider. Each has it's benefits/detriments. For me I hate the sound of MP3's although I love the convenience of the simple portable technology. I love the sound of vinyl, but I hate the surface noise that interferes with the listening of the music. I like CD's because at least have some sort of packaging even if it's downscaled from vinyl.
My god...my head hurts.
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J-Man
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Posted: September 13 2009 at 08:32 |
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
^ I know. But why is what you see more important than what you hear, when we're talking about music?
I think that 20 years from now CDs and vinyl LPs will be almost extinct, or at the very least CDs will join vinyl LPs in their role as obscure collectors' items. I don't think that by then we'll still be using MP3s, since file size will no longer matter then (we'll surely have terabytes of space on mobile players). My guess is that we'll purchase digital packages instead of CDs ... those packages will contain MP3s (for backward compatibility), high-def audio in various formats (stereo, 5.1, ...) and of course also the information we currently get as a paper booklet.
Personally, I'm looking forward to that ... I really care about the music much more than about the plastic case & disc.
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That's not what Joel means. Of course the music is more important than the packaging! What he means is why would you pay the same price for just the music, when you can get that in addition to a case with artwork and a booklet.
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: September 13 2009 at 10:35 |
^ well, he says that MP3s cost "nearly the same" as CDs, but that's not what I see in online stores. Sure, you might come across a CD that is reduced in price and then costs less than the MP3s, but generally MP3s cost only about 2/3 of the price of the CD. And if you include eMusic and Amazon MP3 in the consideration you can make that 1/2, and that's something which I am more than happy with.
So I agree with you and Joel that you should not have to pay the same for MP3s as for CDs, but usually there is a noticeable price difference.
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geddyx12112
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Posted: September 13 2009 at 17:24 |
LP has the best sound in my opinion but CD's are more convenient, and can be converted to mp3's... so as for mp3's, well they have nothing because they sound the worst and aren't as convenient as CD and don't have any presentation like the LP and CD
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JLocke
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Posted: September 13 2009 at 19:12 |
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
^ I know. But why is what you see more important than what you hear, when we're talking about music?
I think that 20 years from now CDs and vinyl LPs will be almost extinct, or at the very least CDs will join vinyl LPs in their role as obscure collectors' items. I don't think that by then we'll still be using MP3s, since file size will no longer matter then (we'll surely have terabytes of space on mobile players). My guess is that we'll purchase digital packages instead of CDs ... those packages will contain MP3s (for backward compatibility), high-def audio in various formats (stereo, 5.1, ...) and of course also the information we currently get as a paper booklet.
Personally, I'm looking forward to that ... I really care about the music much more than about the plastic case & disc.
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I'm all for that, really. As long as I can still have a physical package to have in my hands for the artwork as an option, the concept of all digital information is fine by me; it ensures that the music will never leave me, and no discs of any kind will risk corroding. I'm still a sucker for pretty, physical art, though. Hopefully you get what I'm saying, haha.
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valravennz
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Posted: September 13 2009 at 19:35 |
CD's are great because they can be turned into MP3s, as mentioned above. I miss the LP format, something very special about listening to all the crackles and hissing
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"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence"
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progkidjoel
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Posted: September 14 2009 at 01:37 |
J-Man wrote:
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
^ I know. But why is what you see more important than what you hear, when we're talking about music?I think that 20 years from now CDs and vinyl LPs will be almost extinct, or at the very least CDs will join vinyl LPs in their role as obscure collectors' items. I don't think that by then we'll still be using MP3s, since file size will no longer matter then (we'll surely have terabytes of space on mobile players). My guess is that we'll purchase digital packages instead of CDs ... those packages will contain MP3s (for backward compatibility), high-def audio in various formats (stereo, 5.1, ...) and of course also the information we currently get as a paper booklet.Personally, I'm looking forward to that ... I really care about the music much more than about the plastic case & disc.
| That's not what Joel means. Of course the music is more important than the packaging! What he means is why would you pay the same price for just the music, when you can get that in addition to a case with artwork and a booklet. |
Correct - I didn't mean it was the music, I meant that when I'm paying only a dollar or two more for the case, the CD and the Artwork, I don't see why I'd settle for less.
Also, I enjoy having to wait for an album in the mail... It builds my anticipation, and I really enjoy it once it arrives
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: September 14 2009 at 01:50 |
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
^ I know. But why is what you see more important than what you hear, when we're talking about music?
I think that 20 years from now CDs and vinyl LPs will be almost extinct, or at the very least CDs will join vinyl LPs in their role as obscure collectors' items. I don't think that by then we'll still be using MP3s, since file size will no longer matter then (we'll surely have terabytes of space on mobile players). My guess is that we'll purchase digital packages instead of CDs ... those packages will contain MP3s (for backward compatibility), high-def audio in various formats (stereo, 5.1, ...) and of course also the information we currently get as a paper booklet.
Personally, I'm looking forward to that ... I really care about the music much more than about the plastic case & disc.
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\ Two words: Resale value. A few bucks spent on crappy mp3s equal money down the drain. A few bucks spent on a crappy CD can turn into money you can get back and then use to get more music. I rue the day in which a non-tangible waste of cash will be the principal form of music.
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