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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:06
should Raisin Bran be added to ProgArchives?  There is a good case to be made, especially the early work which had far more raisins than now


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:08
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should Raisin Bran be added to ProgArchives?  There is a good case to be made, especially the early work which had far more raisins than now


Well the thing is, if you add raisin bran, you automatically have to add both all of its influences AND all of its modern-day copy-cats, including all of the off brands.

it's a tricky thing, really. Do we really want the archives polluted with Torman Maxt-brand cereals?

I mean, sure the numbers will go up, but is it really worth it?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:11
Originally posted by The Antique The Antique wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

should Raisin Bran be added to ProgArchives?  There is a good case to be made, especially the early work which had far more raisins than now


Well the thing is, if you add raisin bran, you automatically haev to add both all of its influences AND all of its modern-day copy-cats, including all of the off brands.

it's a tricky thing, really. Do we really want the archives polluted with Torman Maxt-brand cereals?

IU mean, sure the numbers will go up, but is it really worth it?



I don't like raisin bran flakes really and they don't work in the microwave. EmbarrassedLOL

Pop Tarts are very RIO though and should be here.  They're the opposite of M&M's... they "burn in your mouth, not in your hands". LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:12
Originally posted by James James wrote:


Originally posted by The Antique The Antique wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

should Raisin Bran be added to ProgArchives?  There is a good case to be made, especially the early work which had far more raisins than now


Well the thing is, if you add raisin bran, you automatically haev to add both all of its influences AND all of its modern-day copy-cats, including all of the off brands.

it's a tricky thing, really. Do we really want the archives polluted with Torman Maxt-brand cereals?

IU mean, sure the numbers will go up, but is it really worth it?

I don't like raisin bran flakes really and they don't work in the microwave. EmbarrassedLOLPop Tarts are very RIO though and should be here.  They're the opposite of M&M's... they "burn in your mouth, not in your hands". LOL




Also, they burn in the microwave if you leave the stupid things in there for longer than maybe 5 seconds.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:16
Originally posted by The Antique The Antique wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:


Originally posted by The Antique The Antique wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

should Raisin Bran be added to ProgArchives?  There is a good case to be made, especially the early work which had far more raisins than now


Well the thing is, if you add raisin bran, you automatically haev to add both all of its influences AND all of its modern-day copy-cats, including all of the off brands.

it's a tricky thing, really. Do we really want the archives polluted with Torman Maxt-brand cereals?

IU mean, sure the numbers will go up, but is it really worth it?

I don't like raisin bran flakes really and they don't work in the microwave. EmbarrassedLOLPop Tarts are very RIO though and should be here.  They're the opposite of M&M's... they "burn in your mouth, not in your hands". LOL




Also, they burn in the microwave if you leave the stupid things in there for longer than maybe 5 seconds.


This is why branflakes are so much better in this regard.  1 minute 30 (give or take) and they're fine (as long as you have the right milk consistency).

I should market them... they've never catch on. LOLEmbarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:18
Originally posted by James James wrote:


Originally posted by The Antique The Antique wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:


Originally posted by The Antique The Antique wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

should Raisin Bran be added to ProgArchives?  There is a good case to be made, especially the early work which had far more raisins than now


Well the thing is, if you add raisin bran, you automatically haev to add both all of its influences AND all of its modern-day copy-cats, including all of the off brands.

it's a tricky thing, really. Do we really want the archives polluted with Torman Maxt-brand cereals?

IU mean, sure the numbers will go up, but is it really worth it?

I don't like raisin bran flakes really and they don't work in the microwave. EmbarrassedLOLPop Tarts are very RIO though and should be here.  They're the opposite of M&M's... they "burn in your mouth, not in your hands". LOL




Also, they burn in the microwave if you leave the stupid things in there for longer than maybe 5 seconds.
This is why branflakes are so much better in this regard.  1 minute 30 (give or take) and they're fine (as long as you have the right milk consistency).I should market them... they've never catch on. LOLEmbarrassed


but just what is the "right milk consistency"?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:22
I've mentioned the right consistency already...

However... it's 3/4 of the bowl with branflakes in.  That way, when the milk heats up, it warms ALL the flakes together.  Also, the milk has to lap like waves, almost approaching the top of the bowl... when it looks as if the milk is about to lap to much and fall over the edge... then it's ready to be taken out. Big%20smile

Of course, you could always put less branflakes in, thus you'd need less milk.  That would work too.  Basically, the milk has to lie just under the height of the top flakes.  Don't drown them!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:25
here 'pudding' is cooked milk with sugar and flavors, but in England it can be different things, is this right James?


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But what about bowl size? I use fairly lare bowls, typically? Does this affect anything/everything, such as the time I should cook it...

And for the records, I DO think that microwaved branflakes and milk are quite avant-garde and forward-thinking, though they lack focus at times. still, I think they belong in the archives for sure.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:29
Originally posted by The Antique The Antique wrote:

But what about bowl size? I use fairly lare bowls, typically? Does this affect anything/everything, such as the time I should cook it...

And for the records, I DO think that microwaved branflakes and milk are quite avant-garde and forward-thinking, though they lack focus at times. still, I think they belong in the archives for sure.


I just use a standard size bowl... I've never experimented with large bowls.

However, a large bowl would mean a whole bottle of milk, probably (that's if you fill the whole bowl up with flakes)... it's expensive that way!  It should work though... it may require a little longer with timings though... I'm not sure. Confused

I've also never tried sugar with it, 'cause I never have sugar on my cereal.

David, puddings are the same as dessert.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:30
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that's not a bad idea, maybe Cheerios and Gouda, no wait, Raisin Bran and a nice Stilton  ..
 
actually David, I'm coming around to your way of thinking on this one...Approve
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:34
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Actually, I don't think you can here either. I bought this in a shanty town 7-11 type convenience store one night around 2 AM, just because I wanted cereal so badly.

Never saw it again, not even in that store...a sad thing, truly.
 
hmmm...convenience stores selling unpasturised milk at 2am...Ermm
 
it puts me in mind of a quote by Woody Allen as to why he loved living in Manhattan so much...
 
he said that if he wanted, he could get up and go out for a Cantonese meal at 3am.  The fact is that he never wanted to, because Cantonese at 3am would give him dreadful indigestion, but the mere fact that he knew he could if he ever wanted to, made him love Manhattan....LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:34
Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

that's not a bad idea, maybe Cheerios and Gouda, no wait, Raisin Bran and a nice Stilton  ..

 

actually David, I'm coming around to your way of thinking on this one...Approve






EDIT: !!!! And on that note, I HAVE to go sleep..I did not realize it was 6:40 A.M. over here on the east coast....I'm going to die!



...but I'll be back with details on what I ate for breakfast

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:38
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

here 'pudding' is cooked milk with sugar and flavors,
 
no, that's more or less how it is in Egland too, david...although to be correctly called a 'pudding' you just HAVE to include custard....Approve
 
but in England it can be different things, is this right James?
 
no, this is ONLY in James' little world...Wink


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I just use a standard size bowl... I've never experimented with large bowls.
 
no, but 7.8 inch bowls are ultimately sooo much more fulfilling that 4.5 inch bowls...Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:42
No... I consider Apple Pie/Crumble/Strudel with Custard/Ice Cream a pudding.

But there is Christmas Pudding, Sticky Toffee Pudding and other such puddings that are indeed what David implies.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:44
Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

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I just use a standard size bowl... I've never experimented with large bowls.
 
no, but 7.8 inch bowls are ultimately sooo much more fulfilling that 4.5 inch bowls...Wink


But I only have a bowl of bran flakes, I don't have 2 slices of toast as well. Wink  I'm not much of an eater anyhow, I quite often skip breakfast.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:45
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Jared; I think I kinda get the whole English pudding thing but it still baffles me..  so, technically pudding is indeed cooked sugared milk as it is here.. but yet some English feel many desserts can be pudding (or 'puds' ? Embarrassed)   ..no, it's a mystery inside a riddle wrapped in an enigma

Edit; OK, just caught James post and it's a bit clearer,


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:54
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

'night Ben !


Jared; I think I kinda get the whole English pudding thing but it still baffles me..  so, technically pudding is indeed cooked sugared milk as it is here.. but yet some English feel many desserts can be pudding (or 'puds' ? Embarrassed)   ..no, it's a mystery inside a riddle wrapped in an enigma

Edit; OK, just caught James post and it's a bit clearer,
 
well, to be categorised as a proper 'pudding', the dish has to adhere to a number of criteria...it has to be hot, sweet & filling...usually sponge or pie based, and involve custard..
 
...of course poncy southerners like James will have you believe that you can use cream or ice cream and still call it a pudding, but for us, that's a 'dessert' and should be kept strictly south of the Thames...Wink
 
I think we may need to get the prog pudding team into voting for clearance on this one...LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:59
Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

'night Ben !


Jared; I think I kinda get the whole English pudding thing but it still baffles me..  so, technically pudding is indeed cooked sugared milk as it is here.. but yet some English feel many desserts can be pudding (or 'puds' ? Embarrassed)   ..no, it's a mystery inside a riddle wrapped in an enigma

Edit; OK, just caught James post and it's a bit clearer,
 
well, to be categorised as a proper 'pudding', the dish has to adhere to a number of criteria...it has to be hot, sweet & filling...usually sponge or pie based, and involve custard..

Erm, Apple Pie/Crumble/Strudel fits this criteria. Wink  I prefer it with custard myself too. So I was correct.
 
...of course poncy southerners like James will have you believe that you can use cream or ice cream and still call it a pudding, but for us, that's a 'dessert' and should be kept strictly south of the Thames...Wink
 
I think we may need to get the prog pudding team into voting for clearance on this one...LOL


Well yes... I guess if I used ice cream and/or tip top/squirty cream it should be a dessert.


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