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Atavachron
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:06 |
should Raisin Bran be added to ProgArchives? There is a good case to be made, especially the early work which had far more raisins than now
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:08 |
Atavachron wrote:
should Raisin Bran be added to ProgArchives? There is a good case to be made, especially the early work which had far more raisins than now
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Well the thing is, if you add raisin bran, you automatically have to add both all of its influences AND all of its modern-day copy-cats, including all of the off brands.
it's a tricky thing, really. Do we really want the archives polluted with Torman Maxt-brand cereals?
I mean, sure the numbers will go up, but is it really worth it?
Edited by The Antique - August 24 2008 at 06:09
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:11 |
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:12 |
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:16 |
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:18 |
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:22 |
I've mentioned the right consistency already... However... it's 3/4 of the bowl with branflakes in. That way, when the milk heats up, it warms ALL the flakes together. Also, the milk has to lap like waves, almost approaching the top of the bowl... when it looks as if the milk is about to lap to much and fall over the edge... then it's ready to be taken out.  Of course, you could always put less branflakes in, thus you'd need less milk. That would work too. Basically, the milk has to lie just under the height of the top flakes. Don't drown them!
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Atavachron
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:25 |
here 'pudding' is cooked milk with sugar and flavors, but in England it can be different things, is this right James?
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:26 |
But what about bowl size? I use fairly lare bowls, typically? Does this affect anything/everything, such as the time I should cook it...
And for the records, I DO think that microwaved branflakes and milk are quite avant-garde and forward-thinking, though they lack focus at times. still, I think they belong in the archives for sure.
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:29 |
The Antique wrote:
But what about bowl size? I use fairly lare bowls, typically? Does this affect anything/everything, such as the time I should cook it...
And for the records, I DO think that microwaved branflakes and milk are quite avant-garde and forward-thinking, though they lack focus at times. still, I think they belong in the archives for sure. |
I just use a standard size bowl... I've never experimented with large bowls. However, a large bowl would mean a whole bottle of milk, probably (that's if you fill the whole bowl up with flakes)... it's expensive that way! It should work though... it may require a little longer with timings though... I'm not sure.  I've also never tried sugar with it, 'cause I never have sugar on my cereal. David, puddings are the same as dessert.
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:30 |
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that's not a bad idea, maybe Cheerios and Gouda, no wait, Raisin Bran and a nice Stilton ..
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actually David, I'm coming around to your way of thinking on this one... 
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:34 |
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Actually, I don't think you can here either. I bought this in a shanty town 7-11 type convenience store one night around 2 AM, just because I wanted cereal so badly.
Never saw it again, not even in that store...a sad thing, truly. |
hmmm...convenience stores selling unpasturised milk at 2am... 
it puts me in mind of a quote by Woody Allen as to why he loved living in Manhattan so much...
he said that if he wanted, he could get up and go out for a Cantonese meal at 3am. The fact is that he never wanted to, because Cantonese at 3am would give him dreadful indigestion, but the mere fact that he knew he could if he ever wanted to, made him love Manhattan.... 
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:34 |
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:38 |
Atavachron wrote:
here 'pudding' is cooked milk with sugar and flavors,
no, that's more or less how it is in Egland too, david...although to be correctly called a 'pudding' you just HAVE to include custard....
but in England it can be different things, is this right James?
no, this is ONLY in James' little world... |
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:40 |
James wrote:
I just use a standard size bowl... I've never experimented with large bowls. |
no, but 7.8 inch bowls are ultimately sooo much more fulfilling that 4.5 inch bowls... 
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:42 |
No... I consider Apple Pie/Crumble/Strudel with Custard/Ice Cream a pudding.
But there is Christmas Pudding, Sticky Toffee Pudding and other such puddings that are indeed what David implies.
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:44 |
fandango wrote:
James wrote:
I just use a standard size bowl... I've never experimented with large bowls. |
no, but 7.8 inch bowls are ultimately sooo much more fulfilling that 4.5 inch bowls...  |
But I only have a bowl of bran flakes, I don't have 2 slices of toast as well.  I'm not much of an eater anyhow, I quite often skip breakfast.
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:45 |
'night Ben ! Jared; I think I kinda get the whole English pudding thing but it still baffles me.. so, technically pudding is indeed cooked sugared milk as it is here.. but yet some English feel many desserts can be pudding (or 'puds' ?  ) ..no, it's a mystery inside a riddle wrapped in an enigma Edit; OK, just caught James post and it's a bit clearer,
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:54 |
Atavachron wrote:
'night Ben !
Jared; I think I kinda get the whole English pudding thing but it still baffles me.. so, technically pudding is indeed cooked sugared milk as it is here.. but yet some English feel many desserts can be pudding (or 'puds' ? ) ..no, it's a mystery inside a riddle wrapped in an enigma
Edit; OK, just caught James post and it's a bit clearer,
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well, to be categorised as a proper 'pudding', the dish has to adhere to a number of criteria...it has to be hot, sweet & filling...usually sponge or pie based, and involve custard..
...of course poncy southerners like James will have you believe that you can use cream or ice cream and still call it a pudding, but for us, that's a 'dessert' and should be kept strictly south of the Thames... 
I think we may need to get the prog pudding team into voting for clearance on this one... 
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Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:59 |
fandango wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
'night Ben !
Jared; I think I kinda get the whole English pudding thing but it still baffles me.. so, technically pudding is indeed cooked sugared milk as it is here.. but yet some English feel many desserts can be pudding (or 'puds' ? ) ..no, it's a mystery inside a riddle wrapped in an enigma
Edit; OK, just caught James post and it's a bit clearer,
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well, to be categorised as a proper 'pudding', the dish has to adhere to a number of criteria...it has to be hot, sweet & filling...usually sponge or pie based, and involve custard.. Erm, Apple Pie/Crumble/Strudel fits this criteria. I prefer it with custard myself too. So I was correct.
...of course poncy southerners like James will have you believe that you can use cream or ice cream and still call it a pudding, but for us, that's a 'dessert' and should be kept strictly south of the Thames... 
I think we may need to get the prog pudding team into voting for clearance on this one...  | Well yes... I guess if I used ice cream and/or tip top/squirty cream it should be a dessert.
Edited by James - August 24 2008 at 07:00
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