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^ Thanks Mayer, done.
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https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81516
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81517

Duplication, sorry the correct cover is on 81517, delete 81516
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^ Thanks, Mayer, reported.
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Cosmic confusion! The Space Rock album "Plasmic Void" by The Invisible Band appears to be on the wrong page. It's listed on the page of Greek Jazz Fusion combo, Intravenus, which seemingly bears no earthly connection to the British Space Rock band, The Invisible Band. It's a mystery as puzzling as the strange "dark matter" that's said to account for 85% of the known universe. Confused


- E&O Team: Thanks, will be deleted by admins.
It's already listed in THE INVISIBLE BAND! discography.


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https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=72418

The name of the band is Crusade not Philhelmon! Philhelmon was the nickname of one of Crusade member "Henk Bol" that 38 years later put out the new band (he created "Philhelmon" in 2006) 1st album, so you can't call the album "Small as Blue (As Crusade)" cause Crusade was a band by itself, sorry it was my oversight when I added Crusade here, either Crusade will have their own page or here on top it should be Crusade/Philhelmon and the albums from 2012 & 2018 should be next to the album's name (as Philhelmon)
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About Rolf Zero

There is a bunch of Youtube videos of that band added to their catalogue. However, those are not singles but only songs  serving as teaser with new artwork for their youtube listeners. Do you thing it belongs there?


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^ I see no videos added on Rolf Zero page.

I'm not familiar with the band so I can't say do we need their YouTube teasers here. If you feel these videos are helpful you may add them.
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Originally posted by mbzr48 mbzr48 wrote:

https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=72418

The name of the band is Crusade not Philhelmon! Philhelmon was the nickname of one of Crusade member "Henk Bol" that 38 years later put out the new band (he created "Philhelmon" in 2006) 1st album, so you can't call the album "Small as Blue (As Crusade)" cause Crusade was a band by itself, sorry it was my oversight when I added Crusade here, either Crusade will have their own page or here on top it should be Crusade/Philhelmon and the albums from 2012 & 2018 should be next to the album's name (as Philhelmon)

Lots of confusion, Mayer.
We have the US prog-metal band CRUSADE, but obviously it has nothing common with Dutch project PHILHELMON.

As for Small and Blue album, I see 2 options:
1. Delete it because there is no Dutch band CRUSADE on PA.
2. Leave it as it is (i.e. "Small as Blue (As Crusade)") in PHILHELMON discography. In this case we have to change its release year to 2000, because this page reads:
"In 1974 they started recording at the Rainbow Studios in The Hague. These sessions were to produce a first single and an album. Due to the world wide oil crisis this was, unfortunately, never to be. The disappointment eventually led to the break up of the band.
In 2000 Sound Art & Design restored these recordings and now you can enjoy them too.

What do you prefer?





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Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

^ I see no videos added on Rolf Zero page.

I'm not familiar with the band so I can't say do we need their YouTube teasers here. If you feel these videos are helpful you may add them.


A member of that band said this : " I noticed that all our youtube music videos are listed on the archives as releases or singles, although they are essentially just songs accompanied by new artwork, serving as teasers for our youtube listeners."

"I must admit, I am not entirely certain about the process, but the only singles we have released are the ones on spotify or other digital platforms, with the exception of youtube that has few more."

"The only two singles we ever released are: "The Garden of Rotten Walnuts" and "The World became the World/Hallowed be thy name", both available on digital platforms and "Symphony of Rain", "The secret of the black key" and "Arcana" just on youtube."

The debut album "Rolf Zero" is also  available on physical CD.


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^ Hi Louis,

Thanks for this info.

So we will keep those two (I updated them) :

I guess we could delete those:
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81376 - edit: now I think we should keep it (remastered single)

But I am not sure about those, because they have more tracks:
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81377 - edit: we should keep it (remastered single)
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81378 - edit: we should delete it (only new artwork)
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81384 - edit: we should delete it (album track split in parts)
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81421 - edit: we should keep it (remastered single)

Can you tell if the band has a preference?


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^^ 
It's a confusion of digital era. A song on bandcamp or some other streaming platform is a single. What's different if the same song uploaded by the artist on YouTube? 

Personally I tend to delete these "singles", but I think it would be better if the Symphonic Team decides keep them or they have to be deleted.
If the latter, would you like to ask admins to "kill 'em all" or leave this mission to our team?


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I always has an unwritten rule to omit any singles official or not, but that's me.  I won't object if after the addition someone add those unless those singles are not release in any ep, albums. So do what you think it's best, but since it's coming from the band's mouth I would delete at least most of them.
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Looks like we have to keep-delete the entries as Julien suggests:
Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

So we will keep those two (I updated them) :

I guess we could delete those:
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81376 - edit: now I think we should keep it (remastered single)

But I am not sure about those, because they have more tracks:
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81377 - edit: we should keep it (remastered single)
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81378 - edit: we should delete it (only new artwork)
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81384 - edit: we should keep it (new tracks)
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81421 - edit: we should keep it (remastered single)

The only release in question is
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81384 - edit: we should keep it (new tracks)
Everything's strange here - the title, the cover (both don't correspond to the contents).

Note. I hope Mayer reads these posts too.
It would be also good if Mayer explained us where did he found it. As well as the rest of these singles (with or without quotation marks). 

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Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

The only release in question is
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81384 - edit: we should keep it (new tracks)
Everything's strange here - the title, the cover (both don't correspond to the contents).

Note. I hope Mayer reads these posts too.
It would be also good if Mayer explained us where did he found it. As well as the rest of these singles (with or without quotation marks). 

About https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81384 - I just changed my mind (it will be deleted) because it's the last track of this studio album. As you can see, I also updated the album page with the track's parts.

I may be wrong, but I think Mayer has taken all these "singles" on the band's official Youtube page.

To summarize, there should be only 5 singles left:
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81376


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https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81323

Label: Self
Format: CD, Digital
September 18, 2023
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^ Thanks Mayer, done.
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Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

I may be wrong, but I think Mayer has taken all these "singles" on the band's official Youtube page.

Julien, I also see 3 new Rolf Zero compilations (this time your additions):
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81537
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81538
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81539

Were they also taken from the band's YouTube channel?
If yes I'd suggest to delete them too and in general stop from now on and forever the practice of adding all YouTube things as singles, albums etc.

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^ I agree with you about Youtube-only releases. One should not add them on PA.

In the specific case of Rolf Zero's compilations, I think they are as legit as the studio albums, because we can also find them elsewhere (not only on Youtube), like on the band's official Spotify page:
... and they may be good starting points to discover the band.

But if you insist, we can delete them altogether. I don't really mind... Wink


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^ No, I don't insist. Smile

Asked Greg to delete the singles we 'sentenced to death'.


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^ Oh, I already asked him... Confused No big deal.

And after deeper investigation...

The Best of Rolf Zero is rather a "playlist" that the band can update anytime, so doesn't qualify as an official release. Thumbs Down It's already different on Spotify vs. Youtube! So I think we should delete this entry.
Medieval Tales and Symphonic Collection seem to be thematic compilations that won't change in the future... so I think we can keep them.
Folk Collection is only on Youtube as of now... Disapprove but I guess it could be added on Spotify anytime soon. So keep it?

I'll ask Greg to delete The Best of Rolf Zero. (my own addition Embarrassed)
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