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Points: 22767 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2017 at 02:58
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

honest?  Explain that one to me my friend?  Tell it as it is Trump who tells those what they want to hear, making up facts as they suit them, denying facts as alt-facts when they don't conform to what he was selling.. and sold to his voters.

Oh he's honest; I never thought I'd hear a Repub refer to the CIA as 'fascists'.   But now that he has, it's not so funny or gratifying.   Who'd have thought we'd have the spy community on our side.

Calling Trump honest is equivalent to saying that 'at least the Russian olympics team has some impressive stamina'. His intonation is honest but he's not actually coming out with any facts or even opinions he's actually come up himself and aren't just more bs whispered into his ears by Bannon and the gang.
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"The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them." -- Thomas Jefferson, 1787

"If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter." - George Washington, 1783

Still don't believe we have the makings of a corporate dictatorship? How about Steve Bannon, the resident drunken fascist in the White House (who, by the way, makes Dick Cheney look like Lincoln emancipating the slaves), said, "if you look at these Cabinet appointees, they were selected for a reason, and that is the deconstruction." This administration is intent on destroying the Republic -- its freedoms, its environment and its people, starting with the easiest marks, the immigrants, then other religions and then people who don't "fit in" socially (like the LGBTQ folks). It is already happening (and I would suggest reading William Shirer's "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" to see the parallels with Nazism -- in such a way did they start). Their interests are not constitutional. Their goals are not to better America.

These people are full of sh*t. They are dangerous. They need to go.

Sorry to interject here but why are we recollecting the importance of free speech now?  Because I have heard a few times on here and generally on the internet that "freedom of expression is not important", said to defend the political correctness doctrine, obviously.  It's not my intention to start a blame game.  All water under the bridge now that this guy is in power.  But I just hope that next time we will not forget the words, "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty."  There is no democracy without liberty.  If you surrender your liberty for one cause believing it to be good, remember somebody else whom you completely loathe and regard as evil may also impinge on your freedom citing a case he/she believes to be good.  There is absolutely no excuse for stifling the free speech of citizens and rather insisting it to be a dangerous thing is what is a dangerous argument in the first place.
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Points: 46833 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2017 at 20:03
yep...Make America Great Again... eliminate those pesky regulations stifling business and industry..  we do want our rivers to burn again!!!
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Points: 46833 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2017 at 20:01
did he have a choice but to support it hahahha
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Points: 65261 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2017 at 19:44
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

There are people who still think Richard Nixon was a good president.
To show you the difference between then and now (and I am certainly no Nixonian), the Environmental Protection Agency was proposed by President Richard Nixon and began operation on December 2, 1970, after Nixon signed an executive order.

That's right, Nixon. With an executive order no less. Now Trump wants to end the EPA.

Do you believe Nixon genuinely supported a real, toothsome EPA?   Dick Nixon?--  Mr. Big Oil, PepsiCola, Banking attorney?   Somehow I smell a rodent ... but it was Tricky Dick, after all.

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Points: 65261 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2017 at 19:41
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

honest?  Explain that one to me my friend?  Tell it as it is Trump who tells those what they want to hear, making up facts as they suit them, denying facts as alt-facts when they don't conform to what he was selling.. and sold to his voters.

Oh he's honest; I never thought I'd hear a Repub refer to the CIA as 'fascists'.   But now that he has, it's not so funny or gratifying.   Who'd have thought we'd have the spy community on our side.
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Points: 46833 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2017 at 17:31
*shakes head* Nixon, Dubya, Trump...  who'd have thought Nixon would come out on top of that list LOL
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Points: 13056 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2017 at 17:23
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

There are people who still think Richard Nixon was a good president.

To show you the difference between then and now (and I am certainly no Nixonian), the Environmental Protection Agency was proposed by President Richard Nixon and began operation on December 2, 1970, after Nixon signed an executive order.

That's right, Nixon. With an executive order no less. Now Trump wants to end the EPA.
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honest?  Explain that one to me my friend?  Tell it as it is Trump who tells those what they want to hear, making up facts as they suit them, denying facts as alt-facts when they don't conform to what he was selling.. and sold to his voters.

Anyhow.. on a lighter front.  We did start an office pool today.  50 dollar entries.  I put down  3 May 2018.. when Mike Pence takes over the Presidency.  The reason... those leaks will get him.   Someone in the IRS leaks his returns.. and we find out just what he was hiding. Russian money.. a sh*t load. That is my prediction!
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^ We elected him... wait for it... twice.   The difference is that Trump is more honest, which may or may not be better.
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Points: 46833 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2017 at 17:11
and they still vote David...  I still can't wrap my head around the fact we actually elected him. Or more to the point, there were millions that thought a ... takes a breath.. misogynist, race baiting, hypocritical, lyiing sack of sh*t .. who also.. *takes another breath* who had NO political experience and had the matching temperment to disqualify him from being a wise choice to be elected city dog catcher... who... *takes a deeper breath* had very serious UNANSWERED questions about his ties to Russia would be a wise choice for President.

oh yeah.. quote of the day

“YO, REPORTERS … THIS ISN’T ABOUT YOU. Just do your job. That’s our message to journalists covering Donald Trump. Don’t get sucked in or suckered in to the ‘media is ruining our lives’ bs. Don’t apologize and don’t back down. Be immensely proud of what you do because, in the end, it will most likely be your work that saves this nation.”

for all my vitriol though.. I really thought he'd be smarter than he's shown himself to be.  There were many that wondered outloud if he would even make to to the end of his singular 4 year term. I thought originally that was a bit out there. Wishful thinking.  Now I'm not so sure.. the heat is really being turned up on Congress.  If there were ties to Russian intelligence.. they'll have NO choice but to get rid of him.  what a spectacle already.. thanks Trump voter.


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There are people who still think Richard Nixon was a good president.
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"The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them." -- Thomas Jefferson, 1787

"If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter." - George Washington, 1783

Still don't believe we have the makings of a corporate dictatorship? How about Steve Bannon, the resident drunken fascist in the White House (who, by the way, makes Dick Cheney look like Lincoln emancipating the slaves), said, "if you look at these Cabinet appointees, they were selected for a reason, and that is the deconstruction." This administration is intent on destroying the Republic -- its freedoms, its environment and its people, starting with the easiest marks, the immigrants, then other religions and then people who don't "fit in" socially (like the LGBTQ folks). It is already happening (and I would suggest reading William Shirer's "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" to see the parallels with Nazism -- in such a way did they start). Their interests are not constitutional. Their goals are not to better America.

These people are full of sh*t. They are dangerous. They need to go.
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Points: 10387 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2017 at 16:21
and the war against the media continues:

http://tinyurl.com/hvw4uu7


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Friede and I just watched today's Donald Trump CPAC speech live. we believe he could have said whatever he wanted, and they would have cheered him. most of the time he did not really say anything, he just repeated his usual catch phrases.

Frede actually said the speech reminded her of the infamous Sportpalast speech of Joseph Goebbels in which he asked the German people if they wanted total war


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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

I can smell the alcohol wafting from a Bannon photo.
Yes, it must be nice to have a limo drive you to your park bench at the end of a hard day.
 

Well.......go tell Sir Evelyn de Rothschild LOL
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Points: 20604 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2017 at 03:58
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

I can smell the alcohol wafting from a Bannon photo.
Yes, it must be nice to have a limo drive you to your park bench at the end of a hard day.

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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

this is the most alarming statement I have so far heard from someone of the Trump administration

http://tinyurl.com/z437vz6

this should ring every alarm bell in any person who believes in democracy. Bannon openly declares that the Trump administration wants to "deconstruct an outdated system of governance". this is extremely similar to Nazi rhetoric of the Weimar republic. "the womb is fertile still from which that crawled" (Bertolt Brecht)


ehhh...  powerful forces will make sure that never happens of course.  Emperor Trump already discovered the judiciary as a roadblock to ruling this country by his dictacts (umm executive orders) rather than governing through actual legislation..  pray he doesn't discover just much the military really loathes him, especially the top brass, and tries to push them into actions they think go against our core values.

On that note... about spit my iced tea on the monitor when I read of Trump's 'miliary actions' against the undocumented residents here. Oh boy.. someone get that man a book on the law before he gets himself impeached LOL
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Points: 46833 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2017 at 17:44
hahah.. all of DC is awash in booze man...I can smell it here across the river.. and damnit...  I'm only on my 6th week of sobriety. One more reason to add to my running tally of how much life sucks these days thanks to 'Trump voter'. AngryLOL
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I can smell the alcohol wafting from a Bannon photo.
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