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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: February 11 2009 at 18:36 | ||||
Damn it, this thread needs more action.
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: February 11 2009 at 18:40 | ||||
Cynic is so grimdark that Norway had to grow another mountain full of blood to support their slaughtering
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: February 11 2009 at 18:41 | ||||
I like that.
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topofsm
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Posted: February 11 2009 at 22:32 | ||||
So what are the best extreme prog metal bands from Norway?
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Atavachron
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Posted: February 11 2009 at 22:45 | ||||
only Focus, but I will definitely consider giving the newer one a chance if you suggest it my friend BTW I just reviewed 'Fortress' |
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: February 11 2009 at 23:35 | ||||
Traced in Air is a little more straightforward and waaaaay more melodic, but all the Cynic trademarks are there
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: February 12 2009 at 01:56 | ||||
3 stars!?
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: February 12 2009 at 01:59 | ||||
3 stars is Blasphemy, and blasphemy in a bad way:P
Fortress is nothing less than a full 5 star album for me. It took me less than half the album of listening to make up my mind about how mind blowing it was. It's simply one of the most inspiring metal records I've heard, one of 2008's best. |
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sleeper
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 09 2005 Location: Entropia Status: Offline Points: 16449 |
Posted: February 13 2009 at 14:41 | ||||
Hey guys, about time I made an appearance here. Right, this seems to be the genere I'm delving into deepest at the moment as not long ago Opeth were the only band in Tech/Extreme I knew (!) so any recomendations, I'm thinking of getting something from Meshuggah but dont know what. I'll list my favourit albums from this genre here first, it might help:
Arcturus- Le Masquerade Infernal Canvas Solaris- Cortical Tectonics, The Atomized Dream Disillision- Back to Times of Splender Psychotic Waltz- A Social Grace, Into the Everflow, Bleeding Mastodon- Blood Mountain Between the Buried and Me- Colors Watchtower- Controle and Resistance Cynic- Focus, Traced in Air Opeth- Blackwater Park, Still Life, My Arms, Your Hearse, Orchid, Watershed Unexpect- In a Flesh Aquarium Ephel Duath- The Painters Palette Frantic Bleep- The Sense Apparatus Atheist- Unquestionable Presence |
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Plankowner
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Posted: February 13 2009 at 14:53 | ||||
Gojira, man, Gojira...
Split this up a bit, tech/instrumental stuff:
1980, Altera Enigma, Behold...The Arctopus, Blotted Science, Citriniti, Continuo Renacer, Counter-World Experience, Dysrhythmia, Electro Quarterstaff, Electrocution 250, Indricothere, Memfis, Scale the Summit, Sleep Terror, Spastic Ink, Spiral Architect...
Vocals:
Ansur, Coprofago, Diskord, The Faceless, Hacride, Ihsahn, In Mourning, Into the Moat, Moonsorrow, Negura Bunget, The Number Twelve Looks Like You, Persefone, Psycroptic, Quo Vadis (just Defiant Imagination), Sculptured, Solefald, Dan Swano, Thordendal's Special Defects (Meshuggah), Theory in Practice, Twisted into Form, Ved Buens Ende...
Some of my favorites there.. also check out new comers Terminal Function. Edited by Plankowner - February 13 2009 at 15:06 |
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Moatilliatta
Prog Reviewer Joined: December 01 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3083 |
Posted: February 13 2009 at 15:39 | ||||
Some great titles in there! Let's see...
Meshuggah is definitely a band to look into. Really, anything except for their debut is worth checking out. Destroy Erase Improve and Chaosphere are more thrashy, and everything after that is more thick and groove-laden. I do prefer the latter group of album. I might suggest you listen to the "I" EP. It's just one 21-minute song that kinda shows you all of the band's facets, and it is an awesome track. Most Meshuggah fans (I think) will agree that is song is their best. I'm not sure where you should go from there, but chances are that if you really liked "I," you'll like Nothing and Catch 33. I would recommend the re-release of Nothing. The band didn't have the proper equipment for the original recording, so the guitars are really muddy sounding, among some other things the band wasn't happy with. The re-release features re-recorded guitars and some production tweaks. It sounds thicker and crisper. obZen brings back some of the high-tempo aggression of their old stuff and mixes it with their thick, groovy new sound. All of these albums are great.
Moving on...
I personally love The Dillinger Escape Plan. They are a frantic band rooted in metal and hardcore, but they mix really insane syncopation, jazzy drumming & chord changes, electronics and so much more! They are very versatile, but they can be very noisy. That aspect of them, especially for the uninitiated to extreme music, is a turn off to many people here (hence their generally low album scores), but I think if you can handle the aggression and noise, you will find that this is one of the greatest and most innovative bands of it's kind. I would recommend you listen to Ire Works. It's their most recent, and it's also the most varietal song-to-song. From there I would work backwards. Miss Machine is also a gem, as is the Irony Is a Dead Scene EP, which features Mike Patton on vocals. The band had a different singer when they formed, and he is on their first EP and full-length. Personally, I find their older stuff too noisy too often. After he left, the band really started to expand their sound. Mike Patton obviously brought a whole new dimenstion to their sound vocally, and their current vocalist is really good as well.
I'm going to try to keep the rest of the brief...
Protest the Hero is another great new techy band. They are technical, but very melodic and emotional. Both of their albums are concept albums. It's good stuff.
It might be worth your while to check out Behold...the Arctopus. 3-piece avant-metal stuff, featuring Charlie Zeleny on drums (you may know him from his work on Blue Lambency Downward), though he just left the band a short while ago. I think their Nano-Nucleonic Cyborg Summoning EP does a good job of playing extremely complex music while still making the songs memorable and not lifeless mechanics. Their first full-length is a bit disappointing in that it seems way more mechanical and all over the place.
Burst is another great band in the genre. Check out Origo and Lazarus Bird. Aggressive metal/hardcore bounces back and forth with spacey, melodic sections. Powerful stuff.
These bands/albums are filed as "Experimental/Post-Metal," but they kinda straddle the line between that and this:
Baroness - Red Album. Imagine Mastodon mixed with southern and indie rock, I guess.
Intronaut - Prehistoricisms. Originating in a sludgy death metal sound, this band also incorporates jazzy interludes and deep grooves. The music is led by an awesome rhythm section, which includes an amazing fretlass bass player, who himself is rooted in Indian and other ethnic kinds of music. This ethnic stuff surfaces in the 16-minute instrumental "The Reptilian Brain."
The Ocean - Precambrian. Also known as "The Ocean Collective," this large group utilizes many vocalists and some classical instrumentation to create a unique sound. It's really heavy, but really textural. There are also some great softer parts too. This album has two discs: the first one is an EP which is all really heavy stuff and the second is a longer one which is where they make use of their huge sonic palette.
Also, in case you haven't checked them out, look at BTBAM and Mastodon's back catalogs. There's a lot of good material to be found there.
Phew, that was more than planning on typing! I hope my effort was not in vain and that it will be useful and informative.
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UMUR
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Posted: February 13 2009 at 16:43 | ||||
You should definitely check out Dødheimsgard ( 666 International and Supervillain Outcast) and Virus too ( I just saw someone mention Ved Buens Ende so I won´t mention them like I would have. Well I guess I just did)
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Atavachron
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Posted: February 13 2009 at 16:53 | ||||
I seriously considered 4 stars but I have to keep some consistency (i.e. I gave Ink Compatible 4 which I preferred somewhat to Fortress), but my review was quite positive and that's what's important, right? |
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angelmk
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Posted: February 13 2009 at 18:51 | ||||
great bands you have mentioned , i will add Arcturus , one of my favourites, with vortex vocals, this cannot be bad, What a band, excellent prog/avant/black, perfect fusion,Sideshow Symphonies,Aspera Hiems Symfonia, are albums to remember.Borknagar is another great band , ranging from folk metal to black metal finishing with prog , all in one , this band is madness.Diablo Swing Orchestra is worth checking , cannot clasify this music ,but is wonderful. Negura Bunget this band rocks as hell, great music, black/prog ,excellent.Quo Vadis is superb death/prog stuf, defiant imagination is awesome album.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
Prog Reviewer Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
Posted: February 13 2009 at 19:34 | ||||
Hey, your review is your review, ain't no problems. Just saying, if I reviewed it, I would have given it 5 stars instead:P |
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sleeper
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Posted: February 14 2009 at 14:17 | ||||
Thanks guys. I already have Behold... The Arctopus' Nano- Nucleonic... and I wasnt very impressed with it, music didnt seem to have any focus IMO. Burst's Lazarus Bird is on order and I should get it soon. I think I'll be trying I soon from Meshuggah and DEP latest album as well as the other bands mentioned.. |
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: February 14 2009 at 14:43 | ||||
^I think Nano-Nucleonic will grow on you some if you give it a few more spins. It is pretty wild, but I think they kept it cohesive. Skullgrid, on the other hand, fails to gel.
Hope you like those albums!
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: February 17 2009 at 01:22 | ||||
^I actually like Skullgrind.
But...... it took me about 10 listens of the album before it even clicked though. At first I thought it was crap, but I gave it a chance and I'm glad I did. Edited by HughesJB4 - February 17 2009 at 01:23 |
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Atavachron
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Posted: February 17 2009 at 01:40 | ||||
Nano is way over the top, very challenging, I liked it... Skullgrid probably their most cohesive so far and excellent
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: February 17 2009 at 01:40 | ||||
I haven't heard Nano-Nucleonic yet though, I guess if I liked Skullgrind I'll like Nano-Nucleonic.
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