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Posted: November 26 2012 at 00:54
I also used to be of the mind that Phys had filler, whether in material or what seemed like an attempt to stretch certain passages. But over time I realized that's mostly nonsense and that the album is truly one of the greatest in rock history. No one else had nearly the balls or skills to do anything like it and the fact that every second is not gold is irrelevant. The only questionable cut is 'Boogie with Stu'.
PG is a mixed bag for me; lots of fantastic songs but about half of the album is meh.
Of out curiosity, which ones did you find meh? This is an album where most people seem to agree that is has filler but disagree which songs are actually the filler.
In my book, the filler constitutes "Boogie with Stu", "Black Country Woman" and the excessive length of "In My Time of Dying" and "Trampled Under Foot". I also can't stand "Night Flight", but that's not really filler.
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Posted: November 27 2012 at 07:03
^ Second half of CD 2, starting from Night Flight. But since I'm a LZ fan I don't mind listening to them and I even enjoy them, but definitely not as good as the rest.
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Posted: November 27 2012 at 09:33
HarbouringTheSoul wrote:
smartpatrol wrote:
PG is a mixed bag for me; lots of fantastic songs but about half of the album is meh.
Of out curiosity, which ones did you find meh? This is an album where most people seem to agree that is has filler but disagree which songs are actually the filler.
"Custard Pie", "Night Flight", "Sick Again", "Down by the Seaside". (grown to like the album a lot more sense I posted that)
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Posted: November 27 2012 at 10:28
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
The only questionable cut is 'Boogie with Stu'.
Isn't that a Richie Valens tune? Why do you think it's questionable?
I think it's a great blues song, with the Rolling Stone's Ian Stewart playing boogie-woogie piano (hence the title, "Boogie with Stu"), and a splendid mandolin riff by Page. Zeppelin added "Mrs. Valens" in the song credits because part of the song was from Richie Valen's' "Ooh, My Head". Zeppelin had heard that Valens' mom had never received royalties for any of Richie's songs, so they decided to include her. Unfortunately the publishing company that owned all of Valens' copyrights (and left his mother out) sued to get their piece as well, or as Jimmy Page explained:
"What we tried to do was give Ritchie's mother credit, because we heard
she never received any royalties from any of her son's hits, and Robert
did lean on that lyric a bit. So what happens? They tried to sue us for
all of the song!"
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Posted: November 27 2012 at 10:50
smartpatrol wrote:
HarbouringTheSoul wrote:
smartpatrol wrote:
PG is a mixed bag for me; lots of fantastic songs but about half of the album is meh.
Of out curiosity, which ones did you find meh? This is an album where most people seem to agree that is has filler but disagree which songs are actually the filler.
"Custard Pie", "Night Flight", "Sick Again", "Down by the Seaside". (grown to like the album a lot more sense I posted that)
I like "Custar Pie" ... a lot, so I wouldn't go as far as to call it filler (what an attitude, what a guitar tone). But if one said that the lyrics just ruin the song, that I would understand.
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Posted: November 27 2012 at 12:25
Dayvenkirq wrote:
smartpatrol wrote:
HarbouringTheSoul wrote:
smartpatrol wrote:
PG is a mixed bag for me; lots of fantastic songs but about half of the album is meh.
Of out curiosity, which ones did you find meh? This is an album where most people seem to agree that is has filler but disagree which songs are actually the filler.
"Custard Pie", "Night Flight", "Sick Again", "Down by the Seaside". (grown to like the album a lot more sense I posted that)
I like "Custar Pie" ... a lot, so I wouldn't go as far as to call it filler (what an attitude, what a guitar tone). But if one said that the lyrics just ruin the song, that I would understand.
Great song, the lyrics to Custard Pie are basically a "mash up" of old blues songs.
You can't really go wrong with any Led Zep imo, but I would go to II, followed by PG.
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Posted: November 27 2012 at 22:06
HarbouringTheSoul wrote:
In my book, the filler constitutes "Boogie with Stu", "Black Country Woman" and the excessive length of "In My Time of Dying" and "Trampled Under Foot". I also can't stand "Night Flight", but that's not really filler.
BCW is awesome, so is Night Flight and Trampled, and Dying grows on you ( that killer rock jam in the middle)
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Posted: November 28 2012 at 00:50
Physical Graffiti is my personal favorite, but I chose Houses of the Holy (probably my second favorite). I figure if you like IV, you'll definitely like Houses. Then again, if you think you really want to get into Led Zeppelin (which would be a good idea, because every song they wrote was excellent, if you ask me, other than maybe a few extras, like from Coda, which were still alright), then I always say, go with their first album and work your way up.
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Posted: November 28 2012 at 09:24
smartpatrol wrote:
HarbouringTheSoul wrote:
smartpatrol wrote:
PG is a mixed bag for me; lots of fantastic songs but about half of the album is meh.
Of out curiosity, which ones did you find meh? This is an album where most people seem to agree that is has filler but disagree which songs are actually the filler.
"Custard Pie", "Night Flight", "Sick Again", "Down by the Seaside". (grown to like the album a lot more sense I posted that)
Down by the Seaside might just be my favourite from the album. But I agree that there's a coupe of fillers on the album. Boogie With Stu and Black Country Woman do nothing for me.
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Posted: November 28 2012 at 10:11
Night Flight is one of my favorite songs on PG. I think the only songs I don't absolutely love on that album are "In My Time of Dying" (just a tad too long) and "Down By the Seaside" (neat sound to that track, but it makes me a little woozy and seasick).
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