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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2010 at 17:16
Love these guys. Having been a huge Gabriel era Genesis fan, finding these guys was so wonderful. Great musicians and a lot of fun live. My favs:

1-Seventh House
2-Dark Matter
3-Subterranea
4-The Wake
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2010 at 17:42
Didn't realise this thread existed.
 
IQ are a very important band to me. When I was getting disillusioned with prog rock in the early eighties up popped this band. I first heard them on Tommy Vance's 'Friday Rock Show' doing a session that included Gateway. I was immediately impressed as they were a band with obvious ability.
I picked up THe Wake soon after and within a few plays this was completely addictive listening for me. A prog band with balls and even a bit of a punky attitude.
 
I remember then getting very excited when I heard that they had a new album coming out called Nomzamo. So much so I went down to the Our Price records in town to check if they had it it in yet at least 3-4 times. Eventually they di but oh what a massive let down. Horrible jingly jangly 80's production and a very different weak vocalist. No Pete Nicholls no balls.
 
So I pretty much gave up on them and didn't bother with either Are You Sitting Comfortably or Ever which didn't have very particularly appealing album covers.But some time around 1997 or whenever it was I was browsing the CD racks and picked out the latest double CD by IQ called Subterannea. I liked the artwork and so had a look at the sleevenotes and noticed that Pete Nicholls was back in. Wonderfull! Bought it staright away and what a joy it was.Serious proper mature prog for the nineties. I could emmerse myself quite happily with the headphones on and shut out the world.
 
About a year or so later I had the privilege of seeing them perform the whole of Subterannea at the now defunct Astoria. What a gig. They even finished later than planned doing a full version of Gateway. To this day still one of my favourite gigs. 
 
Since then I've counted IQ as one of my favourite bands. Only ELP and perhaps Rush I would put ahead of them. They have never released a bad album (Nomzamo is just mediocre and the rest are good or better).Frequency shows they still have a lot left in them.
 
My favourite IQ albums:
The Wake
Ever
Frequency
The Seventh House
Tales From The Lush Attic
 
but really I can listen quite happily to anything they have done which is a rare thing.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2010 at 17:55
This thread escaped me, nburied under a lot of dross i suspect
 
I have to say Frequency is one of the greatest prog albums I have had the pleasure to hear! Do you agree with my review?
 
5 stars "The first atomic bomb was dropped on a military base called Hiroshima...."

"Frequency" begins with a voice over speaking of a nuclear assault. The intro is unbelievable! The impressive music is beautifully executed, Mike Holmes' clean soaring guitars, chugging riffs like Led Zeppelin, ambient sustained mellotron and keyboard pads by Mark Westworth, with expressive, creative drumming from Andy Edwards, the bass by John Jowitt is played virtuoso style as well. The vocals of Peter Nicholls are clean, inviting and uplifting, sounding somewhat like Neal Morse at times. "Frequency" is an incredible followup to 2004's "Dark Matter". This is marginally the better album of the two, though "Dark Matter" was certainly a very good album. There is more innovation and stronger compositions on this conceptual work. Due to the strong melodies throughout this album it is a genuine grower, and you are likely to love each track the more you listen to it, nothing on it is a throwaway or filler, it is all solid prog at its best. I heard it three times in a row and eventually succumbed to the fact that this, as far as I am concerned, is one of the most uplifting prog albums of recent years and I rate it as a masterpiece of neo prog.

Frequency is one of the best IQ numbers, with solid time signature changes and a positive sound with special effects and melancholy keyboards. Mike Holmes' guitar riffs are dynamic and the lead breaks are emotive and Pink Floydian. Nicholls' warm vocals spell out the main themes of the album: "Before I was undiscovered, When I was invincible, Nobody could kill the silence And probably no one will again, The future was unrelated, Alternatives all pursued, The lives that got separated When others were split in two." It is a brilliant composition and unforgettable.

Life Support begins with beautiful piano and sustained pads and then those warm emotional vocals chime in. This is so uplifting, and reminiscent of Transatlantic. The lyrics are reflecting on life's trials and how to overcome. The mood changes as a thunderous sound is heard and it builds to a crescendo then a lead guitar swoops over as drums keep a steady metrical pattern. Westworth's spacey synth is alienating and futuristic, similar to the type heard in electronic music. It is a lengthy instrumental and as good as it gets. The synths merge with majestic guitar leads. A very melodic motif repeats in various forms and locks into your head. It is absolute bliss when the band are in full flight. The wind effects are airy, ethereal and haunting towards the end. I adored this track the first time I heard it and it gets better with each listen.

Stronger than Friction, an ironic take on Stranger Than Fiction, begins with a melodic guitar riff, and the positive vocals of Nicholls harmonise about ways of living "until our worlds collide" . At 3:50 the heavy beat halts and an ambient mellotron soaked pad sizzles along as the vocals become softer and the whole song becomes a "turning tide" . I like the fast riff at 6:40 where the time sig changes completely again and the vocals are more aggressive. The sporadic bass and drums are off kilter and there is a lilting keyboard and ascending lead guitar break. One of the true highlights of the album and in fact the first 3 tracks are prime example of Neo Prog at its best.

One Fatal Mistake is a melancholic ballad, a gentle soothing sound that warms you up. The lyrics are encouraging and lift up the spirits; "Imagine all you could have been, Eventually you would have seen, The wanderlust, And all you dared to dream of, If ever you make one fatal mistake, You broke me, you have no idea, In darkness I see more than hear, Impossible, even I can say, Many would have walked away." There is always a ray of hope injected in to the lyrics that talk of how to overcome despair and difficult circumstances. The melody is very pleasant to the ears and musically there is a lot on offer here especially the transfixing guitars and keyboards.

Ryker Skies features thick buzzsaw synth and flowing acoustics. I first heard this on a Prognosis CD from the Prog magazine and it stood out as much as it does here. Once again the atmosphere is ambient textures of melancholy reflection. The lyrics are emotive, "I'm reeling, fighting for breath, Running on empty, A fortress carved out of steel, Black and surrounding, No other survivors, the walls without end, So where have I come to?" A very strong bass and drum beat with crashing cymbals kicks in. The lead break is replete with bends and pitched picking. The next section of vocals sound like Ayreon's deep robotic effect voices on "Universal Migrator"; "Welcome, hero, to Ryker Skies, Where all your hopes are stored, You can leave responsibilities in ruins at the door". The mellotron is ever present as the cleaner vocals of Nicholls take over with high octaves; a very nice sound and killer melody as the song swings in to full gear, "Get it knocked into your thick skull, It's really not that hard It's a cast iron binding covenant And this is just the start, There are insults and injuries, You've heaped upon yourself, But you play the victim, While you pile the blame on someone else". This track has some of the most memorable lyrics of IQ and the chorus, once it gets in your head, well you will never forget that melody, "So before I state my intention to live or die, I command your total attention In Ryker Skies." I love the way the track merges into a full blown keyboard attack. Once again a throbbing beat ensues like the machinated pulses of Ayreon. The acoustic flourishes are a lovely touch, adding to the very airy atmosphere. I would rate this as a proposed single from the album, as it is more commercial in sound, but this does not detract from the musicianship which is excellent throughout. A wonderful song.

The Province is a 13 minute IQ romp with textures of light and dark, moments of tension and release are present and infectious melodic verses. The style at times is not dissimilar to the sound of Peter Gabriel's Genesis. There is a heavy guitar riff that overpowers the soundscape after a time. The staccato synthesizer chords are fantastic as tradeoffs with guitar. There is a lot of acoustic work but it is well balanced by the heavier sections. There are many changes in tempo and mood and it progresses into minimalist piano and vocals at the end; "I cannot count the many ways cos' there's nothing real... before the wireless kills."

Closer is as far removed from the obscene industrial NIN song of the same name as you can get. It is a balladic song with positive vocals that are close to Neal Morse or Spock's Beard; "Slandered and betrayed, A character assassination, Watch the guilty fade, Now the work is done, Ghosts of early days, Gather round the later rivals, All parade upon the earth to which they're bound, Silent in their course, They steal across the icy stations, Words are useless now, They fall upon the ground." The song builds gradually until we get a majestic instrumental break with soaring keyboards and then a beautifully sung verse with powerful lyrics; "Hold on, when I'm dead and gone from you, Remember me as light breaking through, Stay strong, any time you feel you're lost, I will carry you back across". The piano motif becomes hypnotic toward the end repeated as guitars and sporadic drums maintain a melancholy mood, closing the album in style.

Overall, "Frequency" is the best I have heard from IQ, melancholy, with moments of heavy tension, and those soaring powerful vocals: this is neo prog at a virtuoso level and I think it's one of the albums of 2009. Accessible and soaring vocally, atmospheric and ambient musically. A masterful work of high quality musicianship.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2010 at 03:15

^ In recent years my favourite album. The only other release I would match against it is Martin Orford's 'The Old Road'.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2010 at 05:34
I've listened just "The Wake", that's the only album of IQ that I got. I've listened it through many times and still I got an impression that it's one of the most boring records that Ive ever had. Perhaps my impression is wrong and I got the "wrong" album, so shall I try some other their works? Or they are all like that?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2010 at 05:41
Originally posted by Roterstern Roterstern wrote:

I've listened just "The Wake", that's the only album of IQ that I got. I've listened it through many times and still I got an impression that it's one of the most boring records that Ive ever had. Perhaps my impression is wrong and I got the "wrong" album, so shall I try some other their works? Or they are all like that?

From waht I remember thats a pretty good album. Maybe IQ just doesn't click with you. Maybe try a more recent album like Dark Matter.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2010 at 06:40
Originally posted by Roterstern Roterstern wrote:

I've listened just "The Wake", that's the only album of IQ that I got. I've listened it through many times and still I got an impression that it's one of the most boring records that Ive ever had. Perhaps my impression is wrong and I got the "wrong" album, so shall I try some other their works? Or they are all like that?


You got the best cd, IQ is simply not your cup of Tea...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2010 at 04:10
''The Wake'' does stand out a bit from the rest of their back catologue. I would not stop at that and would give Ever or Dark Matter a try at least before giving up on them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2010 at 09:16
I am listening to the live album Subterranea: The Concert.  I'm curious what people think how it sounds in comparison to the Subterranea the album.
 
Also, I was getting the album cover on Amazon.com to post in the What Are You Listening to Now? thread and I saw that Amazon is selling the mp3 album download for only $6.99 USD.  Well worth it given that you get 19 songs for this $6.99 price.  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0023GUXNS/sr=1-1/qid=1288102035/ref=sr_1_1_digr?ie=UTF8&qid=1288102035&sr=1-1
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I am listening to the live album Subterranea: The Concert.  I'm curious what people think how it sounds in comparison to the Subterranea the album.
 
Also, I was getting the album cover on Amazon.com to post in the What Are You Listening to Now? thread and I saw that Amazon is selling the mp3 album download for only $6.99 USD.  Well worth it given that you get 19 songs for this $6.99 price.  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0023GUXNS/sr=1-1/qid=1288102035/ref=sr_1_1_digr?ie=UTF8&qid=1288102035&sr=1-1
 
Its a while since I listened to either CD but I always preferred the studio version although the live version is okay.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 09:22
I have a huge amount of time for IQ. Like many here, I grew up listening to many of the second wave prog bands like Pendragon, Marillion, Twelfth Night, Pallas, etc. All of these bands have produced something really special in their time but I think it's IQ that really captured the moment best back in the 1980s. The Wake is still one of my favoruite albums to this day.
 
I also have absolutely no problem with the Paul Menel era albums Nomzamo & Are You Sitting Comfortably. I like them just as much as the Pete Nicholls output.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2010 at 19:41
How I've managed to be a member of this site and not notice an IQ appreciation thread until today is quite beyond me, but there it is...

Anyway, for me as well, these guys represent the best of 80s prog, the only rival in my mind being Marillion's Misplaced Childhood. I also find, probably like most contributors to this thread, that their more recent output has been uncompromisingly excellent. What I've been thinking about lately, though, is Paul Cook's drumming. I've noticed in a few reviews, that Paul's drumming sometimes gets slighted, but other day I was losing myself in The Seventh House, and found myself quite transported by the percussion in the instrumental break in "Guiding Light." Has anybody else out there been similarly impressed by Paul's drumming? And if so, what songs best showcase his considerable abilities?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2010 at 01:34
Man, the "Different Towns" section of "It All Stops Here" might be one of my favorite musical moments ever.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2010 at 01:40
Originally posted by rod65 rod65 wrote:

How I've managed to be a member of this site and not notice an IQ appreciation thread until today is quite beyond me, but there it is...

Anyway, for me as well, these guys represent the best of 80s prog, the only rival in my mind being Marillion's Misplaced Childhood. I also find, probably like most contributors to this thread, that their more recent output has been uncompromisingly excellent. What I've been thinking about lately, though, is Paul Cook's drumming. I've noticed in a few reviews, that Paul's drumming sometimes gets slighted, but other day I was losing myself in The Seventh House, and found myself quite transported by the percussion in the instrumental break in "Guiding Light." Has anybody else out there been similarly impressed by Paul's drumming? And if so, what songs best showcase his considerable abilities?
Cookie's drumming on The Wake ranks in my mind as one of the best peices of prog drumming I've ever heard.The guys a legend.Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2010 at 13:19
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by rod65 rod65 wrote:

How I've managed to be a member of this site and not notice an IQ appreciation thread until today is quite beyond me, but there it is...

Anyway, for me as well, these guys represent the best of 80s prog, the only rival in my mind being Marillion's Misplaced Childhood. I also find, probably like most contributors to this thread, that their more recent output has been uncompromisingly excellent. What I've been thinking about lately, though, is Paul Cook's drumming. I've noticed in a few reviews, that Paul's drumming sometimes gets slighted, but other day I was losing myself in The Seventh House, and found myself quite transported by the percussion in the instrumental break in "Guiding Light." Has anybody else out there been similarly impressed by Paul's drumming? And if so, what songs best showcase his considerable abilities?
Cookie's drumming on The Wake ranks in my mind as one of the best peices of prog drumming I've ever heard.The guys a legend.Clap


I've been listening mostly to the more recent stuff lately, but yes. I see your point. That is a phenomenal album all around.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2010 at 14:35
I have the Wake standard edition on vinyl. Could someone recommend me the special edition that came out 1 month ago. Is it worth it?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2010 at 16:43
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

This thread escaped me, nburied under a lot of dross i suspect
 
I have to say Frequency is one of the greatest prog albums I have had the pleasure to hear! Do you agree with my review?
 
5 stars "The first atomic bomb was dropped on a military base called Hiroshima...."

"Frequency" begins with a voice over speaking of a nuclear assault. The intro is unbelievable! The impressive music is beautifully executed, Mike Holmes' clean soaring guitars, chugging riffs like Led Zeppelin, ambient sustained mellotron and keyboard pads by Mark Westworth, with expressive, creative drumming from Andy Edwards, the bass by John Jowitt is played virtuoso style as well. The vocals of Peter Nicholls are clean, inviting and uplifting, sounding somewhat like Neal Morse at times. "Frequency" is an incredible followup to 2004's "Dark Matter". This is marginally the better album of the two, though "Dark Matter" was certainly a very good album. There is more innovation and stronger compositions on this conceptual work. Due to the strong melodies throughout this album it is a genuine grower, and you are likely to love each track the more you listen to it, nothing on it is a throwaway or filler, it is all solid prog at its best. I heard it three times in a row and eventually succumbed to the fact that this, as far as I am concerned, is one of the most uplifting prog albums of recent years and I rate it as a masterpiece of neo prog.

Frequency is one of the best IQ numbers, with solid time signature changes and a positive sound with special effects and melancholy keyboards. Mike Holmes' guitar riffs are dynamic and the lead breaks are emotive and Pink Floydian. Nicholls' warm vocals spell out the main themes of the album: "Before I was undiscovered, When I was invincible, Nobody could kill the silence And probably no one will again, The future was unrelated, Alternatives all pursued, The lives that got separated When others were split in two." It is a brilliant composition and unforgettable.

Life Support begins with beautiful piano and sustained pads and then those warm emotional vocals chime in. This is so uplifting, and reminiscent of Transatlantic. The lyrics are reflecting on life's trials and how to overcome. The mood changes as a thunderous sound is heard and it builds to a crescendo then a lead guitar swoops over as drums keep a steady metrical pattern. Westworth's spacey synth is alienating and futuristic, similar to the type heard in electronic music. It is a lengthy instrumental and as good as it gets. The synths merge with majestic guitar leads. A very melodic motif repeats in various forms and locks into your head. It is absolute bliss when the band are in full flight. The wind effects are airy, ethereal and haunting towards the end. I adored this track the first time I heard it and it gets better with each listen.

Stronger than Friction, an ironic take on Stranger Than Fiction, begins with a melodic guitar riff, and the positive vocals of Nicholls harmonise about ways of living "until our worlds collide" . At 3:50 the heavy beat halts and an ambient mellotron soaked pad sizzles along as the vocals become softer and the whole song becomes a "turning tide" . I like the fast riff at 6:40 where the time sig changes completely again and the vocals are more aggressive. The sporadic bass and drums are off kilter and there is a lilting keyboard and ascending lead guitar break. One of the true highlights of the album and in fact the first 3 tracks are prime example of Neo Prog at its best.

One Fatal Mistake is a melancholic ballad, a gentle soothing sound that warms you up. The lyrics are encouraging and lift up the spirits; "Imagine all you could have been, Eventually you would have seen, The wanderlust, And all you dared to dream of, If ever you make one fatal mistake, You broke me, you have no idea, In darkness I see more than hear, Impossible, even I can say, Many would have walked away." There is always a ray of hope injected in to the lyrics that talk of how to overcome despair and difficult circumstances. The melody is very pleasant to the ears and musically there is a lot on offer here especially the transfixing guitars and keyboards.

Ryker Skies features thick buzzsaw synth and flowing acoustics. I first heard this on a Prognosis CD from the Prog magazine and it stood out as much as it does here. Once again the atmosphere is ambient textures of melancholy reflection. The lyrics are emotive, "I'm reeling, fighting for breath, Running on empty, A fortress carved out of steel, Black and surrounding, No other survivors, the walls without end, So where have I come to?" A very strong bass and drum beat with crashing cymbals kicks in. The lead break is replete with bends and pitched picking. The next section of vocals sound like Ayreon's deep robotic effect voices on "Universal Migrator"; "Welcome, hero, to Ryker Skies, Where all your hopes are stored, You can leave responsibilities in ruins at the door". The mellotron is ever present as the cleaner vocals of Nicholls take over with high octaves; a very nice sound and killer melody as the song swings in to full gear, "Get it knocked into your thick skull, It's really not that hard It's a cast iron binding covenant And this is just the start, There are insults and injuries, You've heaped upon yourself, But you play the victim, While you pile the blame on someone else". This track has some of the most memorable lyrics of IQ and the chorus, once it gets in your head, well you will never forget that melody, "So before I state my intention to live or die, I command your total attention In Ryker Skies." I love the way the track merges into a full blown keyboard attack. Once again a throbbing beat ensues like the machinated pulses of Ayreon. The acoustic flourishes are a lovely touch, adding to the very airy atmosphere. I would rate this as a proposed single from the album, as it is more commercial in sound, but this does not detract from the musicianship which is excellent throughout. A wonderful song.

The Province is a 13 minute IQ romp with textures of light and dark, moments of tension and release are present and infectious melodic verses. The style at times is not dissimilar to the sound of Peter Gabriel's Genesis. There is a heavy guitar riff that overpowers the soundscape after a time. The staccato synthesizer chords are fantastic as tradeoffs with guitar. There is a lot of acoustic work but it is well balanced by the heavier sections. There are many changes in tempo and mood and it progresses into minimalist piano and vocals at the end; "I cannot count the many ways cos' there's nothing real... before the wireless kills."

Closer is as far removed from the obscene industrial NIN song of the same name as you can get. It is a balladic song with positive vocals that are close to Neal Morse or Spock's Beard; "Slandered and betrayed, A character assassination, Watch the guilty fade, Now the work is done, Ghosts of early days, Gather round the later rivals, All parade upon the earth to which they're bound, Silent in their course, They steal across the icy stations, Words are useless now, They fall upon the ground." The song builds gradually until we get a majestic instrumental break with soaring keyboards and then a beautifully sung verse with powerful lyrics; "Hold on, when I'm dead and gone from you, Remember me as light breaking through, Stay strong, any time you feel you're lost, I will carry you back across". The piano motif becomes hypnotic toward the end repeated as guitars and sporadic drums maintain a melancholy mood, closing the album in style.

Overall, "Frequency" is the best I have heard from IQ, melancholy, with moments of heavy tension, and those soaring powerful vocals: this is neo prog at a virtuoso level and I think it's one of the albums of 2009. Accessible and soaring vocally, atmospheric and ambient musically. A masterful work of high quality musicianship.

 
No, it is one of their weakest since Subterranea. Some déjà-vu in this album. I only enjoy the balads.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2010 at 16:52

Let's discuss the overlooked IQ, the Paul Menel era. Paul Menel is indeed more confident than Peter Nicholls in high notes, and his voice is certianly more original than Peter's.

Anyone here ever heard 'Nomzamo', this is more AOR-oriented but it is the IQ album I return to the most often.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2010 at 16:59
Old school fan here...
 
The Wake, Nomzamo and Are You Sitting Comfortably are my favourite albums. I lost my interest in them with Subterranea and The Seventh House.
 
I must say, they blew me away in the old days. Now I don't listen too much to them anymore, but sometimes I can still get excited about the three albums that I mentioned, plus I think the debut album and Ever are good.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2010 at 03:40
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

Let's discuss the overlooked IQ, the Paul Menel era. Paul Menel is indeed more confident than Peter Nicholls in high notes, and his voice is certianly more original than Peter's.

Anyone here ever heard 'Nomzamo', this is more AOR-oriented but it is the IQ album I return to the most often.
 
I really don't like the production on this album although some of the songs like the aforementioned are decent. No Love Lost and Human Nature are also good although I much prefer the versions on Forever Live which feature the 'unoriginal' Pete NichollsWink
 
Over the years I'v grown quite found of Are You Sitting Comfortably? A much more mature effort in my opinion although it is borderline pop/prog rather out and out prog. But I don't mind that and perhaps a comparision could be drawn to eighties band It Bites which was also in a similar vein.
The final song on that album Nothing At All is one of my very favourite songs by anyone and a great way for Paul Menel to bow out. Love the second verse:
 
Love matters most wherever it comes from
We see each other when our eyes are closed
Its not so easy living out of the shadows
It would break my heart if you broke the spell
Heaven is waiting and waiting is hell
 
Very talented wordsmith Paul but perhaps not quite suited to the world of prog I suspect. Did an important job filling in for Pete though and deserves a lot of respect.Clap
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